TomCat

lol saying MS is gonna puch sony in the mouth is not putting sony down. M$ needs to get to Sonys level I've never denied this. they are there and beyond with the hardware not the software has to catch up

have you ever seen me in a Sony Thread Talking bad about them?

Because I dont obsess. Yall obsess over my statements trying to catch me in an Ah ha moment. I dont worry about your thoughts about me. My beliefs and Opinions are mine based on things I've read and seen. I'm old enough to make my own opinions and dot Follow the "so called" Experts of the boards

Why do I need to? does that make me a lazy gamer

lol the series X will be more powerful then 90% of the pc's out in the wild and you go fault someone for going with the series X GTFO

I've never obsessed over exclusives because the Majority of the games I play are Multiplats and no matter how you fuckers feel PC is Microsoft and I will never change my opinion of that

I spend all day setting up computers installing software and fixing issues. I dont want to come home buy a new game then have to adjust settings or change an Ini file to make a game work the way i want it to. I'll take the series X which is better then 90% of the pc's out there and JUST PLAY @greatoneshere WHY are you even in this thread derailing it if you have no plans to purchase a Series X. you just in here trolling. I prefer PC and Xbox but I dont go into Sony threads calling them lazy or Bad gamers

LOL JP aint Fanboying. I'm the Granddaddy Fanboy for Xbox on this sight EVERY thing JP said is a FACT. M$ wowed with the x1x. They have invested heavily in Studios doubling the size of current ones and also investing and buying more companies to get their studio count to 15 and they are adding more. If you cant see the improvements that Phil has made then you are simply blind. If you are not impressed by the July show then simply Abandon xbox Phil doesnt care cause he KNOWS he has GREAT shit coming. MS is gonna smack Sony in the mouth this Gen. they are gonna compete on all levels Price, Content, Quality Dont believe me just watch.

bingo!!!!

yes but it was boring as fuck. xbox performed better at 4k then the 2080ti at 1440p when culling images. I have an extensive background in electronics I trouble shooted radars down to the transistor level in the navy. but yall can keep thinking I'm dumb as fuck and dont know what i'm talking about but I dont care about internet characters opinions of me

oh my Whats this the X performing better then a 2080ti say it aint so MS has also developed a new compression technique for textures Called BCPack that reduces the size of 4k textures by 50% plus.

also one other thing the Xbox GPU is not faster then the ps only the cpu

very nice assessment How ever i have to dissagree with you on the heatsink for the ps5. although their die is smaller you have to remember that they are running at higher freq. which will produce more heat. I've read that the cooling solution for the ps5 is pricey and its the most Sony has ever spent on cooling. Sony doenst have a good history of handling heat so I dont expect it to be as small as you think. I also believe that the power delta is is bigger then the one for ps4pro to x1x. over 100gb of bandwith difference. 36cu's ver 52 Was gonna say something about 3daudio and raytraced audio but seen you x'ed it out. ps also doesnt support Dolby audio perhaps they feel that their solution is better. only advantage ps5 has is it will load games in 1or2 sec. instead of 5-6 of the x

evidenced or good reason. LOL I'm using my own reasoning based on what I've read. When I read things i dont be like ooooooh let me save this link for guys on d1p. Also just because I read something doesnt mean its true just passing on the info I read. Now my opinion of VRS is that it will improve framerates enough to where they can run Raytracing full boar and it wont effect framerates. Rumour is that forza 8 will be a showcase for raytracing running at 120fps and also utilizing the full force of raytracing

it's okay you have a problem with everything i read or see. forgot where I seen it but it was a dev. talking about the progress of Ms patented version not the version Nvidia is using

and you posted that to say what? that is about RT cores and how Nvidia does it. MS already said that their DX cores run in parallel with the shaders and doesnt effect their performance

I've read that VRS is improving fps by up to 50%

@AbsolutSurgen so you just go ignore the part where the 2080ti can process 10billion rays a second and the X can do 380billion a sec. All told, NVIDIA claims that the fastest Turing parts, based on the TU102 GPU, can handle upwards of 10 billion ray intersections per second (10 GigaRays/second), ten-times what Pascal can do if it follows the same process using its shaders. In short, in the same way that light 'bounces' in the real world, the hardware acceleration for ray tracing maps traversal and intersection of light at a rate of up to 380 billion intersections per second.

if you lay it on its side the cooling fan is on the left

I'm not sad at that fact at all. cause we got an unoptomized version of the experience. Kinda like when games first started using raytracing the frame rates were abysmal but are getting better over time. the same will happen with what MS and amd is doing with Raytracing. what you guys are forgetting is MS have the best of both worlds engineers and great software makers. but keep underestimating them. LOL after I said that here you go. Sounds like my thinking The more staggering metric was the 380 Billion intersections/sec. 2080 TI is capable of only 10 Billion intersections/sec. It was noted however that the XsX intersections/sec does not equate to gigarays/sec which is unlike the 2080 TI metric. Not sure why NVidia can claim 10 Billion intersection/sec=10 gigarays/sec. It seems the XsX metric is different in some way??? Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13346/the-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-2080-founders-edition-review/3 https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-inside-xbox-series-x-full-specs One other big fact the ray tracing demo we viewed was done by ONE person

I'm expecting AMD to do to nvidia the same they just did to intel give them a kick in the ass. the pc cards will outperform nvidia cards. From what I'm hearing Amd is skipping 7nm+ and jumping to 5nm. Thats why there was the confusion on what level xbox would be manufactured at. SOC for xbox will use 7nm enhanced which is basically a hybrid of 7nm+ they get the full benefits of rdna2 but only get a 15% advantage in density.

just some quotes from the article so, we're interested in how the ray tracing hardware can be used to take techniques like this and then move them out to utilising the DXR cores. This is hugely exciting and at Digital Foundry, we've been tracking the evolution of this new technology via the DXR and Vulkan-powered games we've seen running on Nvidia's RTX cards and the console implementation of RT is more ambitious than we believed possible. now this one is very interesting. Says amd and MS came up with a better way to do what tensor cores are doing for nvidia. The RDNA 2 architecture used in Series X does not have tensor core equivalents, but Microsoft and AMD have come up with a novel, efficient solution based on the standard shader cores. With over 12 teraflops of FP32 compute, RDNA 2 also allows for double that with FP16 (yes, rapid-packed math is back). However, machine learning workloads often use much lower precision than that, so the RDNA 2 shaders were adapted still further. what I've been saying is MS and Amd came up with a better way of doing raytracing with thier HARDWARE ACCELERATED version. I was calling them Rtcores but We now know they are DXR CORES

both of them are saying the same thing. efficiency is gaming equals more power

Havent actually read it yet. I've been saying the whole time that MS and AMD have thier own hardware version of doing Raytracing that will perform better then RTcores. IS that true I dont know yet but its what I've deduced from the shit I've read

dude I never said AMD will use RT cores. I said they would have thier own version of RT cores. I used RTcores as a reference We dont know what AMDs Raytracing hardware is called so I'm using RTcores as a reference only. I already said that RT cores may not be the best way to do Raytracing you for some reason think that RTcores is the BEST and only way to get the same job done. My point through all of this is maybe AMD and MS came up with a more efficient way to do Raytracing. But keep shiting on everything positive about the X its going to be a fucking BEAST