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Welp.

I guess because she didn't kill him in anger? It's confusing to me as well because when he's shooting lightning at the ships, he could be freaking out Rey and forcing her to kill him and take his place, basically.

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I hope Rian Johnson gets to do his trilogy. I know Kathleen Kennedy said they were moving away from doing trilogies just to do them, but if he has a story he wants to tell that can be done in a trilogy, I'd love it. Either that, or maybe he has a story he can tell in two films or four or whatever. I just hope they let him do his thing.

Nah, even Han Solo made fun of it in Episode 7 ("So it's bigger."). But the fact that he went back to that well AGAIN, after TFA was kind of a "soft reboot" that had the next-gen Death Star after the first two, but this time every Star Destroyer could do the same thing (something that I don't think was really used for dramatic purposes in the climax?), versus the phenomenal climax of The Last Jedi... shit, give Rian Johnson the reigns. I didn't mind Starkiller Base being another Death Star because it was the familiar part, I felt, contrasted to the Finn-Rey-Kylo fight. There really wasn't a reason to do it again.

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Luke in Episode 8: Strike me down with your anger and I'll always be with you. Just like your father. Luke in Episode 9: *crickets* Pity on that one, too.

Another problem with it: the movie wouldn't fundamentally change if Rey wasn't related to Palpatine. That's how shoehorned it is; the confrontation and stakes don't change much based on this. Ironically, the bitching about Rey not being related to anyone important -- a gutsy theme of finding your own two feet without any legacy in the world -- seems even sillier because that twist and story point were more interesting than being Palpatine's granddaughter.

J.J. Abrams Explains Lineage Choice In Star Wars: Rise Of Skywalker

You don't think TLJ is the worst. It may be written weird, but he's saying TLJ wasn't great but was easily the best.

The first thread title I remember reading from there was, "I just ejaculated and cum got into my mouth."

Original estimates had this around $190m, which would still have opened lower, but this is much lower than TFA and TLJ. Saturday drop was steep, and the CinemaScore is a B+, lower than The Last Jedi's and The Force Awakens's scores (meaning audiences aren't as enthused with it as they were Episodes 7 and 8). https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/2019W51/?ref_=bo_hm_rw On the other hand, Knives Out has a hell of a hold.

I'm also a big defender of both, had a ton of fun in TFA, loved TLJ more and more every passing month, and with JJ attached again to this film after TFA, I couldn't have thought it would go the way it did by any stretch.

tbh, I actually felt TFA felt the most like parts of the OT to me, so YMMV I don't even think there's one complete feeling to the OT.

I read this post on Reset and I swear to GOD, this sounds like @Kal-El814 wrote it: C'mon: y'all know if Kal said the bold, it would have been a classic Kal-ism.

Well, whether the problems mainly or partly come from it, I think the movie should have had more time to cook to tighten things up. Or just wait for Rian Johnson instead of needing to release a movie in a year where you already had a billion other billion-dollar grossing films. But if they gave JJ more time, I know it wouldn't have saved the film; the story decisions were at best safe and entertaining and at worst creatively bankrupt.

That thing with Palpatine shooting lightning into the sky was really cool and scary, but it's also confusing: "So basically: Palpatine wants Rey to kill him. Palpatine, after draining the lifeforce from Rey/Kylo says screw it, I'll be the emperor anyway. He lighting storms everyone. He stops the storm to focus on Rey, their whole thing happens where he kills himself. Instead he can continue doing the lightning storm, and put Rey in a checkmate scenario. Every friend she knows is going to die, alongside all of the extra recruits, OR Rey has to do what Palpatine wanted her to do the entire time and strike him down. Palpatine is in the best possible position to not lose with what the movie sets up. He instead stops for no reason, even when there is no real fear of being attacked by Rey because SHE LITERALLY CAN NOT without falling into your original ploy. Oh boy." Yo, that would have been an interesting scene. fffuuu-

Many people, which is why you're hearing a stink being made.

Look at what you linked to me: Pine's an actor, he says, "Give me more time so I can do a better job," and he wasn't given more time to do a better job. Like... there are obvious pacing and editing issues and lightning quick cuts that weren't present in 7. Part of it is probably just throwing a bunch of shit into the movie and having to explain all of it, but that whole warp jump action sequence shortly after the Kylo/Palp opening? That was a weird sequence and was undercooked.

JJ said he wished he had more time in one of however many interviews he's done on the film. But putting that aside: There is such a thing as overcooked, yes. But considering we have two Star Wars movies from Abrams, and Episode 7 is a significantly more competently crafted movie -- forget story, just the craft, and no awful edits such as what we received in the first 20 minutes of RoS -- it's not a huge stretch to think the movie would have been tighter. Give me more time to tinker, and I'm going to give you a better edited story. There are clearly "mystery box" problems he had starting with Episode 7. Those aren't what I'm talking about.

Episode 7 was directed by Abrams. It was a much better paced and edited and shot movie. More time was spent on production. I get it: this is a Star Wars discussion, so common sense goes out the door when you don't like something. "Pacing and editing become better when more time is used," is a common sense thing that I have experience with as part of my job doing things that are 1/50th the length of a full-length movie.

Yes, really. Having the film laid out =/= the pacing being perfect once it's shot. I'm fairly certain the production of this film was shorter than 7 and 8. Unless you're saying Hitchcock would have the exact film done with four fewer months on it. In which case, why not do it quicker if it's that easy to do? Everyone would love to have more time making a movie, editing a news story, or creating a show. Give me an extra day to edit a news story and it'll be significantly tighter and how I want it to be.

Absolutely with the same director in charge. A director doesn't necessarily know how a movie is paced until he/she has actually seen the rough cut.