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2 hours ago, BloodyHell said:

but yes, there are definitely a valid percentage of detransitioners that feel they didn’t get nearly enough psychological/psychiatric care to understand what was going on, and felt medical intervention, including surgery, was given far too easily at too young age.

[Citation Needed]. Many, if not most, of these stories are dubious at best as they take place in places in which this stuff just literally doesn't happen. People with anonymous profiles on Twitter and Reddit claiming they live in parts of Europe that require adults literal years to just see a specialist to give them a dysphoria diagnosis to then spend even more time getting their HRT prescription, but still claiming they had permanent surgery just months after questioning their gender.

 

2 hours ago, BloodyHell said:

Claiming it’s rare doesn’t help, because nobody wants to do a study to find out what the percentage is

I assure you if there was a percent of the population that was above 1%, it would be known. Trans people can't sneeze without making front headline news, and you think there's a large subsection of society that was forced quickly into permanent surgery? All eyes are on trans people right now, there are a record number of bills in the United States alone against the trans community(More now than the rest of American history combined) and you think there's a secret number that just can't be calculated? Or, and hear me out here, are you trying to make people prove a negative by saying 'Yeah, you say it's rare, but you can't prove it's just not being documented'? Claiming it's rare is valid, because it's rare. You can't say 'Claiming lupus is rare is a meaningless claim, because there just might be people hiding the fact that they have lupus out of shame!' Do you also believe Big Foot is real because scientists have been shamed out of looking for him?

 

2 hours ago, BloodyHell said:

I mean, most (sane) people don’t have a problem with social transition at 16. It’s medical transition that people are opposed to. Puberty blockers (usually Lupron) do cause sterilization. No child that young is capable of making a decision that is as irreversible as that.

 

but changing a birth certificate? Who cares, they can change it back.

 

but yes, there are definitely a valid percentage of detransitioners that feel they didn’t get nearly enough psychological/psychiatric care to understand what was going on, and felt medical intervention, including surgery, was given far too easily at too young age. Claiming it’s rare doesn’t help, because nobody wants to do a study to find out what the percentage is, and detrans people have been harassed quite often for telling their stories. (Yes, I know trans people are harassed too, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok for them to do to anyone who does detrans).

This couldn't be further from the truth. The trans community is extremely accepting of detrans people, and if you look at the statistics most detrans individuals are still trans. They've simply detransitioned due to financial and/or societal pressure. The only detrans individuals that get 'harassed' are people being called out because they're using detransitioning as a platform against trans people. You don't get to say white people are being harassed because people call Tucker Carlson out for being a bigot. It's not 'harassment' to point out individuals going on Fox News and calling themselves detransitioners are spewing ignorant misinformation about the societal and medical facts about being trans.

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