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  1. 34 minutes ago, TwinIon said:

    I'm not sure what the point of a list of cars that are nearly all out priced by the current $30k Model 3 is. The only exceptions are the Leaf and Bolt, neither of which are customers favorites. If a Model 2 could be made meaningfully cheaper than a Model 3 and be similarly outfitted, it would be competing with bestselling mainstays like the Accord, Civic, Corolla, and Camry. That's a lot of market potential.

     

    For all Tesla's troubles, the 3/Y still outsell all other EVs combined. I don't think it's crazy to think that a cheaper Model 2 could be extremely successful.

     

    I do think it's crazy to take Elon at his word that he could be shipping them this year (!?!) when we haven't seen any indication of the project and when Elon is asking shareholders for $56B while Telsa's profits nose-dive.

     

    I suspect the customers who can mainly afford a 28k-ish car aren't able to invest in chargers and electrical work to support them. 

     

    I dunno. Maybe I just hate Elon.

  2. 44 minutes ago, TwinIon said:

    A successful Model 2 could be a big deal

     

    That was the whole premise though wasn't it? Affordable electric vehicles for all. Now you can buy a Bolt for 26,000 so... I think the war is over. Tesla lost. 

    • Bolt - 26,000
    • Bolt EUV - 28,000
    • Equinox - 44,000
    • Inoiq - 37,000
    • Leaf, 28,000
    • MINI - 30,000
    • Mach-E - 40,000
    • EV6 - 42,000
    • EV9 - 54,000
    • Ariya, 39,000
    • bZRx - 43,000
    • id.4 - 40,000

    https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/electric-cars

    https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/electric-suvs

     

  3. 2 hours ago, Ghost_MH said:

     

    What I always find amusing about this is that tech stocks soar because there's a rush to get in early before the company goes profitable or get in before some big acquisition. The other major tech companies near the top of the valuation charts are basically companies so huge we can't really picture the market without them.

     

    I don't understand where Tesla falls in there. The company is already twenty years old. They're already at the profitable stage of their existence...sort of. They're valued too high to actually be bought out by anyone. They don't have more street data than either Apple or Google. They own NACS, but they've given it away, royalty free. Their lead was in electric car sales, which they won't have for much longer, and battery production...which seems like an unfulfilled promise at this point.

     

    Everytime I see their stock rise I feel like I'm missing something and I just don't know what.

     

    Woke mind virus 

  4. 4 hours ago, TwinIon said:
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    I think there's an enormous difference between doing evil for money and destroying the world in a nuclear holocaust.

     

    If you destroy the world, there's no more money! If you destroy the world, there wouldn't be anything to spend your money on even if there was money. If you destroy the world, your own quality of life as a high powered executive of a mega-corp declines precipitously, even if you survive and everything else goes to plan. This isn't even a case of short term profits over everything, because after the bombs drop there cease to be profits immediately.

     

     

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    You know all these billionaires are buying bunkers on private islands for only themselves and their family right now? Like in real life. 

     

    I think you underestimate our capacity for evil. The problem is you're thinking like a normal person with a sense of ethics and morals and compassion, you have to imagine being a rich narcissist idiot with way more options at your disposal. 

     

  5. 18 hours ago, TwinIon said:
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    just didn't think the logic held from "unlimited greed" to "lets blow up the world." If anything, blowing up the world is the antithesis of hyperbolic greed because you'd be destroying everything that you might otherwise acquire.

     

     

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    I don't see it that way. I really feel corporations would do this if you let them. They already do to a certain extent! You've got US Arms manufacturers smuggling arms S of the border for $$$ over innocent people there literally empowering villains.

     

    Corporations are people.

    Short term profits over long term sustainability.

    Boy's clubs

    Epstein's clients weren't people who didn't benefit from corporate greed. 

    Just on and on. 

     

     

  6. 32 minutes ago, TwinIon said:
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    How is Vault-Tec going to win capitalism when you destroy capitalism along with everything else?

     

     

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    Capitalism does that all the time? Destroying pathways so that others can't ever compete with them, tying things up in legal terms (the code for the device) so that no one can have access to tech that competes with them. Merging with challengers to stay in control. Their customer base wasn't poor people, their customer base are the people who bought vault space. Everything the villain-dad-dude said is a version of corporate BS I've heard.

     

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