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  1. 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said:

     

     @Kal-El814 - what do you think?

     

    :feelsgood:

    Rational actors would now be buying the Jergens they have had in their Amazon cart for some time, though they'd defer Prime 2 day shipping in favor of some credit. We've still got a SCOTUS nominee who believes a sitting President cannot be indicted and we haven't seen Trump's response, so actual pumping would still be premature at this point.

  2. 11 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

     

    It doesn't take much thought to realize that a hit movie that ended with the bad guy winning is going to get a sequel. That's my point. No people don't think about these movies as much as we do, I get that and that's not what Im arguing. I'm making the point that today's movie going audiences, even the casual ones are savvy enough to follow the story even though they don't know all the characters or spend a ton of time on the internet and realize that a movie with a cliffhanger ending is going to continue. The concept of movie serials is not new to the American movie going public and the fact that Marvel has built an lucrative franchise off of this approach that other studios are trying desperately to emulate means that filmgoers get it. They do and the numbers bare that out.

    It doesn’t require MUCH thought. A lot of people spare NONE. 

  3. 4 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

    This has been my experience with most of the casual fans I know who see these movies. I don't buy for one second that the majority of people who saw this movie aren't expecting a sequel... People just aren't that dumb when it comes to movies.

    People think Born in the USA is a non-critical, straight up patriotic Springsteen song. It’s not about people being DUMB about movies, or music, or whatever. It’s just that for an awful lot of people, it’s a fun way to kill a few hours, or it’s background noise. I get off a rollercoaster without thinking about the engineering that went into it. Some people get out of a movie and that’s just... it.

     

    I don’t know why this is so hard to accept, some people spend $15 to turn their brain off for 2 hours and don’t think about it. Do a google search for, “is Rey in” and I’d bet that the predictive searches would be “Rogue One” and “Solo.” People just don’t think about this stuff.

     

    Just now, Chris- said:

    I've had the exact opposite experience.

     

    As a solipsist I find your anecdote unconvincing. :p

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  4. 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said:

     

    Ok :peace:

    Hey I don’t like that this is the way it is... but it is. Apparently a decent number of people show up to the movies not knowing what they’re going to see or when, which... BLOWS MY MIND. But if they don’t think about movies enough to plan what they’re going to see THIS AFTERRNOON they sure as shit aren’t thinking about what might come out next summer. :p

  5. 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said:

    What does that have to do with more movies being made? I didn't know he was coming back either but I knew more movies were coming and my only experience with The Lord of the Rings at that point was the animated movie which I saw as a kid WHICH, I believe, tried to cram all three books into one film. This is different than what we're talking about anyway. Audiences getting pissed because an actor spoiled the return of a character is different than audiences not expecting there to be a sequel to a hit movie that CLEARLY ends with a cliffhanger.

     

    You guys would have me believe that the majority of the modern movie public just all of a sudden forgot how movies work and were left scratching their heads stupidly at the end of this movie and I just don't believe that is the case. But I grow weary of this "debate"... carry on :peace:

    1) You’re continuing to make the assertion that most of the moviegoing public THINKS about movies after the movie ends. They don’t. Where’s the sequel to Inception? That also ended on a cliffhanger. And if you’re going to respond with, “well Marvel movies are obviously connected,” then you’ve already fallen into my trap because again people don’t think about this shit. :p

     

    2) No I don’t think the majority of the modern move public FORGOT how movies work. The majority of the modern movie public NEVER KNEW TO BEGIN WITH AND WILL NEVER CARE TO LEARN. Again, this is @sblfilms ‘s every day life. 

     

    1 hour ago, Chris- said:

    I'm going to nitpick you on this one assertion, because I've never been in a superhero movie (Marvel or otherwise) where the crowd didn't stay through for the post-credits scene(s). I think Marvel has thoroughly conditioned people to do it.

     

    I go to most MCU movies opening day or opening weekend. In 10 years I have never, not once, seen more than 25% of the audience stay through the credits. People have kids, people have to piss. They don’t stick around.

  6. 15 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

    So folks left The first Lord of the Rings movie thinking "Whelp... too bad they never made it to that mountain to destroy that ring! I guess those two little Hobbits that got taken are FUCKED".

    When The Two Towers being promoted, McKellen was on Letterman (or some other late night show, maybe The Tonight Show) talking about Gandalf coming back. A bunch of people in the audience booed or reacted because he spoiled Gandalf’s return.

     

    So not only did people NOT KNOW the fate of one of the most popular fictional characters of the 20th century, people DIDN’T CONNECT Ian McKellen being on the show with the implication that Gandalf would come back.

  7. 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said:

     

    The Superman thing WOULD be confusing for most folks because of the way WB and DC have handled their properties in the last ten or so years.... but after 20 movies, people know what the Marvel brand is... they know the movies connect and they know they should probably sit around and wait until after the credits to see the if there's something extra. Shit people sit around after the credits now for NON-Marvel movies because Marvel has made the practice so popular and no, these are not folks who live in the "bubble of the internet". I don't and judging by my mother and other family members who don't live on the internet but have NO problem following Marvel's movies, I don't think this "issue" is a widespread as some of you guys are making it out to be. OF COURSE there is going to be another movie and I think most folks left the theater knowing that. Especially since the movie you know... told us that with the whole "Thanos will return" thing.

    Again, you spent more time constructing the emphasized portion of your post than most people who saw Infinity War thought about it.

     

    You think most people sat in the theater long enough to see "Thanos will return"? I saw Infinity War on opening night, the place was sold out. 10 people stayed in the theater long enough to see the post credits scene. If someone doesn't care to sit through 10 minutes of credits to see the stinger, they're going home and googling it?

  8. As ever, it seems as though people discussing movies on the internet believe they live on the same figurative planet as the rest of the movie viewing public. They do not. Most people aren't sitting through 10 minutes of credit reel to see the extra scenes, fewer people than that know who the hell Captain Marvel is, fewer people than that know how many movies Chadwick's deal was for, etc.

     

    A buddy of mine watched Man of Steel for the first time the other day (pray for him) and despite being a dude on the internet who enjoys superhero movies... he didn't know it wasn't a sequel to Superman Returns. He's not an idiot. He just likes movies enough to watch them and go to the theater and aside from that spends exactly zero time or energy thinking about them. This is how most people watch movies.

     

    So to say...

     

    4 hours ago, ort said:

    Wait, there's ANOTHER Marvel movie coming after this one?

     

    A decent number of motherfuckers who go to EVERY ONE of these movies couldn't tell you why Superman and Spider-Man won't cross over. Marvel Studios and WB are as about as familiar to them as Paramount and Universal... they're logos people see before movies that mean, essentially, nothing.

     

    So... yes. Impossible as it may seem here, some people finished Infinity War thinking that was the "last one" or at the very least that everyone that died is gone forever.

  9. 13 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

    :notsure:This is about Shenmue, isn't it? 

    Shenmue has always been bad.

     

    There are a few old, classic games that seem pretty mean from a requirements perspective, in hindsight. If you don’t know where warp whistles are (and most normal human beings wouldn’t ever find one), finishing Super Mario Bros. 3 in one sitting is asking a lot of someone. A bunch of the old Sierra games relied too much on randomness and fucked you over hard if you didn’t catch something early.

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