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  1. All finished up! What a satisfying game. I dunno what the OG ending was before patches, but I think the ending I got was reasonably well fleshed out as well as a pretty true to the character relationships I built up throughout the game. There are a couple of pretty funny choices, like being able to end your romance at literally the last second for... god only knows what fucking reason... but I guess you could role play that away or just lean into psychosis or something. :pĀ 

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    Spoiler free thoughts...

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    Some of the "big" fights are really a testament to how well you know and can work the game mechanics. For the last bit of combat I was pretty well stocked up on certain scrolls and items and at first glance it seemed really daunting... but it ended up being fairly trivial. Normally that kind of thing would be disappointing, but here I think it works. In something like a BGS game you can end up "abusing" mechanics by taking advantage of the fact that everyone has the short term memory of someone who just got hit in the head with a frying pan or other behavioral oddities. Here's it's not abuse but being able to use the game mechanics to your advantage. It makes you feel like you solved a puzzle as opposed to taking advantage of exploits. There are a couple battles where I think the terrain itself could be better considered; a couple encounters specifically come to mind where if you position yourself in a certain way or stumble into a fight from a specific angle, the AI just isn't in a position to recover and the enemies act super dumb. But this happened maybe 3 times in 90 hours, so whatever. It's notable when something hyped up ends up kinda petering out.

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    The characters really shine. All of the people who can join your party are pretty well fleshed out and interesting, and most of their quests have interesting resolutions or solutions. Again i think there's a pretty good balance between letting you earn things and then giving the NPCs themselves a chance to make their own choices, while also giving you the chance to tip the scales if things seem like they're not going the way you'd like. It's really well done. I'd say the only very tiny downside is that there's so much content in this game that if you decide to do most of it in one run (like I did by the end) you'll probably run out of juice for your favorite characters long before the plot ends... but this is a real high class issue. And again, for me it ended on a really high note. Lots of closure, lots of resolutions, all in all... pretty great.

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    Some spoilery thoughts from someone who played and liked BG1 and 2.

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    Minsc is weird. I appreciate that he needs to have class appropriate stats and the changes between AD&D 2nd ed and 5E are significant... but it's weird that he's not just yoked. I appreciate this is a very stupid nitpick. :p

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    Jaheira I thought was pretty well done, and it's great to have her back.

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    Viconia and Sarevok... woof I don't even know what to say. Even if you assume that the PC from BG1 and 2 wasn't good and didn't redeem either or both characters... I don't think they have much in common with their previous versions. Since BG1 and 2 Viconia has kidnapped kids and abused their relatives. Shit like that happened to her brother and it used to give her nightmares. Sarevok... he's making sacrifices to Bhaal and seems loyal to him... which I don't think he ever was in the old games? How is he alive? Why does he suck so much ass and die like a clown?

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    I dunno that Sarevok was anyone's favorite character or anything, but Vic has her stans and how she comes off here is just... wild. I don't know why they'd bother with her cameo if that's all they were gonna do with it.

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    Spoilery thoughts about how I approached the endgame.

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    I guess the only disappointment I had was that the best thing I could seem to pull off for Karlach is letting her squid herself? She really seemed like she didn't want to go back to hell and it was a bit surprising to have her want to become a mind flayer... but I suppose that's better than Avernus or dead. Although... in the ending it seems like Withers can yank people out of Avernus whenever he wants for a party, so... that's weird? She seemed happy but it's clear that she's not going to be "herself" anymore after eating enough brains. Everyone else got a objectively good ending, hers being bittersweet would be fine other than that she's the only one like that.

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    I don't think I could ever do an evil playthrough here. I have a tough time with that in games like this where I'd like the characters to be happy, but seeing everyone content at the end would make it pretty hard for me to go against that. The only one I could maybe see is letting Astarion ascend, but... maybe he'd just be a huge dick? I dunno. Letting him be the head vamp seems bad even though we let 7,000 vamps loose in the sewers.

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    Anyway, Karlach became a Mind Flayer, we freed Orpheus, and everyone was more or less happy. Raising a lil Gith baby with Bae'zel, everyone's more or less their best self. The only other real ending weirdness was Orpheus being REAL bent out of shape about me "stealing" a Gith egg that I was given, and then turning from being pissed at me for not letting his honor guard kill me to calling me his savior after we killed the brain. Again, a very small beef compared to the overall awesomeness of the ending.

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    I really liked The Emperor even though I ended up "betraying" him (and then ignoring him completely in the final fight, lul). I think he's an interesting character and written well for what he is, a kind of pragmatic survivor who's ultimate main interest is self preservation when the chips are down. I wonder if some people find him consuming or contradictory, when I find that he's ultimately just wildly selfish in a way we don't often see in videogames.

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    Anyway, what a ride. Here's hoping there's DLC or a full sequel sometime.

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  2. 59 minutes ago, best3444 said:

    They definitely made her more manly looking in Forbidden West. I thought she was pretty is Zero Dawn. Not so much in West.Ā 

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  3. 11 minutes ago, Bacon said:

    Yeah, I am not a Wyll fan. I only brought him along for his story bits but since he wasn't the MC his parts felt weak when compared to my Dark Urge stuff. Also, I think Warlock sucks balls, even when doing that 5/5 pallock was lame. I'm not a Wyll hater, but I don't care about him. At least if I hated him I could get some joy out of finding a way to kill him.

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    Wyll's "issue" is that he's surrounded by much more interesting characters. He for sure doesn't suck, he's reasonably well written, well acted, he has an arc, etc. It's just... he's a borderline straight man compared to most of the rest of the cast. Even Karlach...

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    ...generally has less development than the Origin characters but is just more *fun* to be around than Wyll is most of the time.

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    I feel like in most other games Wyll would likely stand out, here he just doesn't really stand out even when the spotlight is on him. I suspect that's why some of the stuff in my previous post is part of his quest even though it doesn't really feel like it has much to do with him personally other than really obliquely. Most other companions have quests that feel a lot more personal around their conclusions.

  4. On 1/24/2024 at 7:59 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

    Good God.

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    It's almost like Druckmann is a fucking goober and needs to be reined in constantly.

  5. I will say that I think Wyll's storyline in general is one of the stranger ones. @legendĀ @Bacon

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    First of all the "spoiler" that he's a Warlock is funny as someone experiencing the story from the POV of a player. Bruh is pooping out Eldritch Blasts all over Faerun then a demon shows up like "oh my god who saw that one coming."Ā :p

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    HIs Act 3 storyline feels a bit all over the place, even aside from my specific path. Make a choice about sacrificing your dad in a literal devil's bargain? Sure, that's on brand for a Warlock. Parlaying that into him being a heroic vs. avenging Blade of Whatever? Yeah okay that makes sense. ALSO THERE'S A HIDDEN DRAGON AND THAT DRAGON WAS THE BOYFRIEND OF YOUR MIND FLAYER FRIEND (WHO MIGHT BE YOUR BOYFRIEND TOO) AND ALSO THAT MIND FLAYER IS ACTUALLY BALDURAN AND HE KILLED HIS DRAGON FRIEND AFTER THE DRAGON FRIEND TRIED TO KILL HIM BUT HE WAS VERY SAD ABOUT HAVING TO DO THAT AND ALSO WYLL'S DAD KNEW ABOUT THE DRAGON BUT DID NOT KNOW THAT THE DRAGON WAS DEAD OR WHO THE DRAGON'S BOYFRIEND WAS OR ANYTHING.

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    Oooooooooookay. :pĀ 

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  6. 4 minutes ago, legend said:

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    Mizora try to stop you from rescuing him?

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    If not, that does seem like a bug. I more or less did what you did, but in addition to the thing above

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    There is a conversation with Mizora and gloating in her face about saving him anyway. She responds by saying that she will still get him in the future and it's just a matter of time.Ā 

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    See this video of the conversation here

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    She did puke some spiders in his general direction, but there's been no acknowledgement of it from her or Wyll which seems a little odd. I haven't seen the convo in that clip you posted yet, maybe i'll pop some other night in camp. That specific campsite isn't one I've seen yet.

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    Again it's not a big deal or anything, it just stuck out since it's one of the few fumbles I've seen narratively across almost 75 hours of playtime.Ā 

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  7. 8 hours ago, TUFKAK said:

    I personally will never understand why the side opposed to my views are so concerned with the suffering of monsters. Iā€™m not saying be needlessly cruel, but Iā€™m not gonna lose any sleep over some monster suffering for a few moments. Donā€™t wanna be put to death, dont do horrible things seems a pretty easy bar to clear for me.

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    Philosophically, the state has the moral authority to take life violently, thereā€™s no question on that. I just am willing to extend it out after the fact, especially in cases where the guilt of the monster isnā€™t in question like this case. Iā€™m also willing to extend capital punishment to other crimes too and I make no apology for that either.
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    Im way more concerned with criminal Justice reform and rehabilitation of our incarcerated population than the tiny fraction of capital punishment cases annually, but since itā€™s an industrial complex now thatā€™ll never happen as millions are getting made on recidivism over rehabilitation, but letā€™s keep focusing on monsters getting what they deserve I guess.


    It costs me nothing and prevents the suffering of people who are potentially innocent? The notion that itā€™s fine when people who ā€œweā€™re sureā€ are guilty end up suffering is lousy because even in those cases there is no pragmatic upside.Ā 
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    Am I losing sleep over it? No, but itā€™s fucked to dork up executions because some people are ā€œmonsters,ā€ whatever that is supposed to mean.Ā 

  8. 1 hour ago, Bacon said:

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    It might be a bug? I did what you did, but there was no real interaction between the 3 characters all at once.

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    Mizora should try to kill Duke during the rescue mission. There are these exploding spiders that she summons when you bust him from the cell. I believe there is a bug if you use the squid dude to teleport Duke to the sub. If you did that instead of waking him out normally that might have caused an issue.

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    What should happen is that Wyll and Pa reconcile, and when get back to camp and when you talk to Mizora you are all like, "lol we owned you dumb ass". But there is like no actual interaction between Duke and Mizora.

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    Maybe you have this bug? Not sure if it was ever fixed.

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    If it's a bug, it's not the one you listed here. Seems like weird quest interactions. The quest to rescue that person is completed and written in the journal like the choice I made was final, but then that person was found later and the quest never updated.Ā 

  9. Question for anyone who's finished Wyll's quest. I just did and it feels kind of sloppy, which I haven't really seen in the other origin quests. Spoilers through act 3 for Wyll.

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    So I decided to sacrifice Wyll's dad. Given that pops was tadpole'd and the alternative for Wyll seemed really terrible, it felt like the best of choice in a "heads I win, tails you lose" game for him. So we did that, his demon chills in my camp to talk shit now and has been kind enough to keep Wyll in the money with warlock powers until The Absolute is dealt with. We found the dragon, more about The Emperor, all that.

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    Then in a peripherally related quest, I decided to rescue the prisoners from the Iron Throne instead of just blow up a factory full of slaves. And... Wyll's dad is down there? And we save him? And now Wyll, his dad, and Mizora are all in camp and... don't really acknowledge each other? I don't even know why Mizora didn't kill Wyll's dad immediately?

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    Did I run into a bug? This seems kinds weird.

  10. Based on the personal quests I've done, I'd wager I'm maybe 33 - 40% through Act 3. I'm doing what I can to finish most quests I encounter and I think I've done almost all of them with the exception of one from the first Act that didn't close when it should've and then flunked at the end of Act 2. Pretty sure this is a bug and it should have closed or there was another trigger that the journal didn't let me know about and I actually missed it.

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    It's really great. I think my only laments are that now that I'm at level 11 or so... almost nobody can fuck with my party. It feels good to stomp some people and there's still an occasionally engaging fight, but most of the "challenge" at this point has come from mid fight triggers that I couldn't have predicted, or a bunch of mooks showing up out of nowhere immediately after a fight starts which will have Gale or someone caught with his pants down. I appreciate that I'm the architect of this issue; if I hadn't done almost every quest I could, I wouldn't be at close to max level. Maybe a Tactician run is in my future.Ā 

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    Also the inventory management is lousy. We're not talking Starfield levels of derp, but... if I have a bottomless chest and through 95% of the game I can warp to it... just let me carry whatever I want. This isn't a survival horror game, holding infinite shit wouldn't change much other than preventing true stupidity like carrying every chest in the game at one time or something... I dunno. It just feels like added steps to warp shit I wanna sell to camp, then walk to a vendor, then warp to camp, pick up all my shit, then leave camp, then sell it. Maybe I should just munchkin less, whatever.

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    Anyway so far all the Origin characters have been really interesting, their quests and development have been really fun to play through. Larian does good work but if you'd told me that we'd get a sequel to BGII / Throne of Bhaal 20 years later and it'd be this awesome, I dunno if I'd have believed, but here we are. The biggest crime they committed is to the stat line of a returning character... but I get why they did that. I guess. :pĀ 

  11. 8 hours ago, CayceG said:

    This should be the final nail in the coffin for "we talked to prospective Trump voters" reporting. This guy is motivated by irrational anger and responds to those stimuli, as are all Trump voters.Ā 

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    It is fascinating to me that someone has the political journey of supporting Obama, Trump, Burgum (!), Hayley, and then Trump.Ā 

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    These are the same chucklekfucks who insisted that a "beer test" was relevant for George W. Bush, who is sober. It's just astrology and virtue signaling from people who claim to hate both.

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