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    in The Political Re-Education Camp

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    5 hours ago, TUFKAK said:

    Just booked a flight to Salt Lake, guess I am breaking my no Red State rule, but sister is having a hard time so going.

    I'll likely have a night in the city solo, any recommendations @GeneticBlueprint


    When are you headed here?

     

    Lots of good eateries in the 9th and 9th area (900 East and 900 South). If you’re in that area stop by the whale (all hail) on 1100 east and pay tribute so we can get some god damned snow this year. If you want to see the luxury mall that Jesus commanded be built, head to City Creek Center which also has lots of good places to eat and pubs in the surrounding area. And you’ll be in the city center. Eccles Theater or Capitol Theater are around there if you want to see a good show. Abravanel Hall is there too and that’s where the Utah symphony plays. I’ve seen a lot of orchestras in my lifetime and this is one people sleep on.

     

    Clark Planetarium is cool and free if you want to do something educational in the city. It does charge to see the IMAX documentaries. Haven’t seen those in years but I go to the planetarium all the time because there’s tons to do and see there. And it’s right by the Delta Center which is where the Jazz play if you like the NBA and are in town on a night they play. There are also some concert halls in that area like Metro Music Hall or The Complex. There’s usually an act in one or both of those every night. 
     

    Temple Square would also be an interesting bit of history to see, but I think it’s closed because they’re redoing the foundation or something like that. But if it’s open might as well swing through and look at the Mormon Mecca the polygamists built. Also, in the bigass conference building across the street to the north of Temple Square, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir does a broadcast every Sunday morning that’s free to attend and I know that’s still open. They’ve been doing that for literally 100 years I think. Regardless of the religious nonsense it’s actually quite impressive to experience in person.

     

    Sorry most of my recs are music oriented as that’s my thing. 

     

    Sounds like you’ll just be here an evening otherwise I’d recommend going to do some bougie skiing in Park City and eating some overpriced but good food while you’re there. 
     

    4 hours ago, Spork3245 said:


    Drink hot beverages while staring at mormons.

     

    Though its HQ is there, you’re not likely to run into many in SLC proper. 
     

     

    The Weird Rise of the ‘Post-Left’

    in The Political Re-Education Camp

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    14 minutes ago, stepee said:

     

    Was it? It was pretty much mainstream republican stuff since forever, just covered up better I guess. But it’s pretty much all standard fare.

     

    13 minutes ago, stepee said:

    Any repression from some big anti sex movement or whatever would work itself out anyway as the type of contrarian pushing that would no longer be interested if it got too popular and the next generation would just push back against 

     


    I don’t think Trumpism is standard conservatism though it compliments some areas social areas for sure. But I’m more referring to his cult of personality that absolutely started as a little niche thing and then dominated the entire party. And because of that a large group of women in this country don’t have access to abortion and other life saving procedures. I can envision some other nightmare scenario if some of these weirdos start organizing. 

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    The Weird Rise of the ‘Post-Left’

    in The Political Re-Education Camp

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    1 hour ago, SuperSpreader said:

     

    I don't think you have to be into hotwife culture or something to be a liberal. It's ok to be personally conservative but accepting and not judgemental of others. I basically live like a conservative white man, I am even trying to retire by ~55 and have plans for it financially.


    I resonate with this and similar sentiments expressed in this thread. I’m pretty conservative personally in my way of being. Probably a byproduct of the religion I grew up in. Wouldn’t dream of imposing my lifestyle on others though.

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    The Weird Rise of the ‘Post-Left’

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    4 hours ago, Reputator said:

     

    So "sex negative" means different things to different people, I gather. Either anti-porn, anti-physical abuse, or anti-public sex.


    Well the edgy online gen z weirdos equate many forms of healthy sexual activity with abuse and too much skin in a photo with porn etc etc in a way that previous generation’s online weirdos don’t. It’s something to side eye for the time being but it could become a problem. 

    The Weird Rise of the ‘Post-Left’

    in The Political Re-Education Camp

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    4 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

    Another group I've always been concerned about ever since the Joseph Lieberman/Tipper Gore days are pseudo-neo liberals. I'm curious what other users' thoughts here are on this and how significant or big a group you guys think this is, or if this is just an online loud minority. I've always seen myself as a true progressive of the left ever since I can remember (I was a politics nerd even when I was in my young teens) - meaning someone fighting for what we all here know are things like LGBTQIA+ rights, womens' rights, minority rights, etc. Someone who hopes one day all sentient beings are equal and we even treat all non-sentient beings as best as we can. And more. Anyway, I bring this up because one type of person I feel like I frequently run into on the left that bothers me are people who say they are liberal, on the left, etc. and they seem like they are. They believe in things like equal rights and so forth.

     

    But, these people are also conservative on issues like sex, art, alcohol and drugs, etc. Straight edge liberals. A lot of Gen Z seems to be this way, where you hear about low sex rates and how they find sex scenes in movies uncomfortable (lol) and think we're violating the characters' consent by watching them have sex (what? all art is some form of voyeurism to begin with). Many tend to be prudish, don't party hard, etc. Some of this is good, things in moderation, be healthy, etc. But I begin to worry when the morality police start coming out because true progressivism is about as much freedom allowed as is reasonably possible. I worry these kinds of "liberals" are the type that would keep sex work outlawed when it should be made legal and regulated, as one example. I remember the arguments that "video games are too violent" back in the day from the left and I was like: "so we're going to limit and constrain art now?" which is very conservative thinking to me. I even hear things now like: "all art has a responsibility to present the right ethics and morals" and I'm like . . . what now? Every movie has to be a message movie now? Fight Club would never be made in such a cultural atmosphere. Fortunately there is more art than ever so no one should be wanting but I'm not sure how I see this as a leftist position? This also seems like a slippery slope/pipeline to falling in with the right wing pretty quickly, which is why I'm bringing it up in this thread about another group that used to be left that also have quickly now fallen in with the right. My mind goes to demure soccer moms in the midwest who just want to control everything just from a feeling of moral superiority from the left rather than the right. Liberal but religious people are frequently like this. Hedonism really bothers this group of people I feel like.

     

    Any validity to any of this or am I just running into the select few?


    Here’s an X-cretion about what you’re talking about I read the other day. The thread is wild. Breaking the rule since it’s very relevant. 
     

    https://x.com/pandershirts/status/1740117254652711134?s=46&t=IBAi9a_ZSuLPcOuNLyHstQ

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    The Weird Rise of the ‘Post-Left’

    in The Political Re-Education Camp

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    23 minutes ago, stepee said:

    I don’t need to subject myself to watching that Bill Maher video to know that he is actually absolutely 100% right. He hasn’t changed at all and it is indeed the left that has changed over the last 50 years since when he probably formed his political identity. It just doesn’t mean what he thinks it means. 


    I was going to say something very similar. He’s a leftist for people who were old leftists in the 90s. The left has absolutely changed in that time. Not as much as the right, of course. But Maher is correct. 

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