Joe

10 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

There are a myriad of ways that those sentiments articulating the legitimate, righteous aspirations of the Palestinian people could be expressed without resorting to the baggage-laden rhetoric of the phrase "from the river to the sea". 

 

Even Hamas and the PIJ would dismissedly (and correctly) scoff at any other interpretation of those words other than what they were originally intended to mean.

 

Using those words is an "own goal" by any reasonable analysis.

No disagreements with me there. She should know better.

1 minute ago, UpvoteShittyTakesOnly said:

repeating the genocide slogan and saying it doesnt really mean the genocide thing is…what exactly

That one is definitely tougher to defend her on, but still don’t think she means it in the way everyone is assuming. But the Palestinian flag is completely different.

Just now, Spork3245 said:

Ah, so your comments (and, let’s be honest, the others too) are almost solely because it’s Tlaib. I’m not some right wing assclown analyzing everything brown democrats do waiting to call them a traitor, I’m a liberal and typically like Tlaib. Her flag stunt is stupid, as was Mast’s uniform stunt: both are extreme derp behaviors from elected officials.

I know you’re not dude heh. That’s why it’s maddening. It’s not just Republicans criticizing her.

1 minute ago, Spork3245 said:

You’re the one making that argument, not me. I gave an example of another scenario. I’m talking about foreign nations flags outside of elected officials offices. At best, it’s in poor taste. I probably wouldn’t even care if she kept one at her desk or something, but hanging it outside your office is just stupid.

I’m just frustrated that literally everything Tlaib does is a dog whistle to people at this point. It’s a bit maddening.

Also if Russia was getting relentlessly attacked and children were being killed in the thousands, I would assume someone sporting their flag was showing solidarity with their people and not their government.

Just now, Spork3245 said:

The leaders of Gaza and majority seat holders of the Palestinian Legislative Council, aka Hamas, attacked another country.

Obviously not the same thing. If they were sporting a Hamas flag, that would be different.

Gaza hasn’t even had an election since 2006.

1 minute ago, Spork3245 said:

 

 

I get it and that’s a fine opinion to have, but comparing this to Russia after they just attacked a country is not a great comparison imo.

The more apt example would be if someone with Ukrainian heritage put their flag outside their office, no one would have any issue with that.

1 hour ago, Spork3245 said:

I legitimately don’t know what was derpier, Tlaib flying a Palestinian flag outside her Capital office, or Mast wearing an IDF uniform to Capital Hill.

Definitely Mast. Nothing wrong with what Tlaib did.

5 hours ago, Jason said:

Didn't @Joe spot him in NYC but pussy out on saying hi? 

This sounds vaguely familiar. I must have been drunk.

21 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

@Joe

 

i think a better example of my point is to shift to our desire to end heteronormativity. Little things like vocabulary assist in that, hence why I mostly refer to my fiancé as my partner in social settings/emails etc, being open and unapologetic about relationships that aren’t the culturally “normal” cis gendered heterosexual monogamous coupling and putting it out there for everyone to see. Exposure breeds acceptance, hence why Pride exists but also why those of us who aren’t in those relationship dynamics display what and who we are, other people’s comfort be damned. Wanna annoy a chud, call your female fiancé your partner for example. The fact me and my best friend; a gay woman, are routinely mistaken for a pair-bond when we go out; even in the bay, shows there’s a lot of work to be done still.
 

breeding is still seen as the default setting and those of us who exist outside of that are routinely seen as abnormal/damaged etc and the fact people still expect specific accommodations for their choices, as seen in this thread, furthers that too. I’d never tell a parent they’ll change their minds about breeding, wonder why I don’t get that. Hell, I’ve been told multiple times I’ll reverse my vasectomy. 

 

What you get from me is my advocacy for programs and policies opposed to my financial best interests but which benefit parents over me. My property taxes are over 1%, I’ll never personally benefit from the majority of the taxes I pay there but still ok paying them to drive society forward.

Your posts come off as someone that dislikes parents and children. Perhaps not your intent and your ire is only towards those who criticize your perfectly reasonable life choices, but that’s how they come across. 
 

Even the simple act of calling people who have kids breeders. You know what you’re doing with that word choice.

29 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

If you review the posts, only one person was being personally attacked, I don’t care ftr, but is child free people are often and routinely personally attacked for our choices whereas those with kids take those not liking kids or minimizing contact with them as an attack on them personally. Wanna hazard a guess how often I’m ridiculed or questioned about my vasectomy while being child free? 
 

That’s a distinction that has relevance and yeah, deliberately over the top but I matched energies.

 

in public my only response will be, turning to my partner and saying “gods im glad I’m sterile” when a kid is being annoying and move on with my day. Because as I said early, they’re kids they’re gonna be kids and I’m not faulting them, it’s almost like I had to take courses on this or something.

I get it. Your posts come off as someone that is very hurt. I’m just saying you don’t have to refer to children as mistakes and parents as breeders. Many parents, including myself and others here, are respectful of your choice to not have kids. The respect should be reciprocal I think?

4 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

Here’s another edgy hot take 

 

I’d rather have full blown aids with a viral load greater than 10k and a non existent cd4 count than a child

 

sorry not sorry 

Good for you man. No one here is criticizing your choice to not have kids. I’m sorry that you have people in your life that do criticize that choice.

Some of these posts what the fuck lol.

Thanks to @b_m_b_m_b_mand @Baconfor being the voices of reason.

You haters are always trying keep the Latino man down.

29 minutes ago, Spork3245 said:

 

@Commissar SFLUFAN has threatened bans for that now

@Commissar SFLUFAN C’est vrai?!

https://x.com/natesilver538/status/1703732030872170531?s=46
 

I apologize for ever having defended this fucking moron.

I was so scared of this happening to me on my flight back from CDMX.

2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

Nah - it pretty much died on the lot when I traded it in for my Kia Telluride.

 

I got $250 for it though!

How do you like it? My neighbor has one and I convinced my godparents to buy one as well  (they were trading in a Tahoe). Everyone loves it!

We sleep trained my daughter at 18 months. We took wayyyy too long but man it’s a huge game changer to get your evenings back.

The mom locking herself in a Church on hunger strike is hilarious though. Without a doubt some old Spanish lady shit.

2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

The fact that the Spanish football federation has threatened legal action against Jennifer Hermoso made me physically ill.

He’s the federation though lol.

Made it 5 days in CDMX without diarrhea. It was a good run.

Lol white lights cause cancer? What am I even reading?

Light mode causes less eye strain.

5 hours ago, Chris- said:

@Joe it’s so back. 

I’m in CMDX right now. I saw your comment and quickly googled. I saw $155 and almost started tearing up. 
 

It’s in pesos.