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Ricofoley

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  1. 7 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

     

    Look at the election of 1864.  The rebel states were still technically a part of the US, but they didn't send electors to the electoral college.  This reduced the number of total EVs from over 300 to 234 members.  If a state doesn't send electors, then the total EV count goes down, and the subsequent winning margin.  

     

    Sending the election to the house only comes into play if there is a tie, or if there are more than 2 candidates and no one candidate receives a majority of the votes. 

     

    This is what the 12th amendment says,

     

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    The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.

    So, yeah, you might be right in this case since those states wouldn't end up appointing electors, I dunno. It is true, though, that it doesn't specifically say it's only in the case of a tie. If a third party ever won, like, Alaska, and the vote finished 269-266-3 then the election would go to the House because nobody had 270.

  2. 21 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

    Pretty sure if a state doesn't certify,  and the legislature doesn't have electors to send to the electoral college, then those electoral votes are just not factored into the equation.  So for instance, if Michigan goes this route, the total number of electors drops to 522, and the winning number is then 262 electoral votes. 

     

    Biden still wins.

     

    If GA + MI have no electors, then there are 506 total electors, then the winning number is 254.  

     

    Biden still wins. 

     

    EDIT:  Even if GA, MI, WI, AZ, NV all didn't send electors, Biden would still win. 

     

    If Biden keeps NV in his column, he would still win even if GA, MI, WI, AZ, and PA do not send electors -  Winning 233 to 232.

     

    If neither candidate gets 270 then it goes to the House no matter what, I think. That's the whole idea behind this plan, such as it is, just try and get Biden below 270.

  3. Yeah, there's a statewide canvassing board that it goes to now for a vote instead, and everyone on Twitter is already like, "Well, don't worry the canvassing board will just approve it then," but... I'm done assuming anything at this point, personally. But apparently the next step after THAT is it would go the courts, so as long as judges keep telling Republicans to eat shit in these cases, they can't actually steal the state.

  4. Apparently there was an imbalance of like 100 votes when they did an audit and the Republicans are saying that they can't certify the results based on that, but people who cover this stuff regularly say that that kind of an imbalance is typical and if everyone was acting in good faith wouldn't hold this up at all unless there was a recount.

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