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    DeWine signs executive order banning gender surgeries for minors.

    in The Political Re-Education Camp

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    1 hour ago, Jwheel86 said:

    I'll be the first to admit I don't know shit about this issue, I do think though that there needs to be proactive attempts at educating the public on these issues, otherwise the movement is going to get ran over. You're asking the public to massively change their perceptions what's normal, and if the debate devolves into "your woke vs you're a chud", the uneducated idiot like me is either going to go 'meh' with in difference or become closet anti trans. Either outcome is going to give law makers cover to chip away at like this by asking questions about sports, care, and bathrooms. In a perfect world most people would be okay banning late term abortions except for xyz, my objection to those bans is how do you cleanly allow those exceptions without calling the hospital lawyer at 2am, you can't. 

     

    I don't know that this is true. At the risk of painting with a broad brush, it's similar to the perspective that a lot of people had about gay issues / rights. Obviously gender reassignment surgery for kids is not the same as adult, same sex marriage; the comparison isn't perfect. But it wasn't smart politicking to support gay rights even for democrats until it was, and when that tipping point happened wasn't immediately obvious until it was happening or even had happened.

     

    Also not to be grim... but kids getting killed by guns en masse has moved the needle slowly on gun laws. Things like gender affirming care are more easily manipulated at the state level since there are no national constitutional protections, but still.

     

    Besides, lawmakers don't need cover to do this, as we're seeing here. I'm under no delusions that pro trans activism is going to bring a ton of democrats to the polls later this year. But I also think we DO have evidence that "protect kids from the mind virus and the thirsty scalpels of woke doctors" isn't a winning position for republicans, either. Maybe it has something to do with slippery slops arguments they've been making for years failing to come true? Maybe it's because shit like crying wolf with claims that schools are letting kids identify as cats and shit in litter boxes hasn't stuck? Maybe it's because these surgeries are so rare? I don't know.

    Dave Chappelle gets cancelled into four more Netflix specials

    in The Performing Arts Centre

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    On 1/4/2024 at 6:38 PM, TheLeon said:

    In the little that I watched, it felt like he was kinda going for the “equal opportunity offender” thing, and “I’ll make fun of handicapped people because nobody else will dare to do it”. But then the jokes are barely jokes. I skipped his last couple specials, and peeking in on this one felt bad. I guess his show is almost 20 years old at this point and people change, but damn. 


    The problem with being an “equal opportunity offender” is when you go “they think I’m punching down when I talk about trans people? Wait until they hear my jokes about disabled people” you just end up telling on yourself twice. “Who’s got it worse than group X,” is not fertile ground for comedy. I don’t think anyone’s out there saying that trans or disabled people are off limits in general, Dave’s just lost in the sauce and has been for a while now. The brief bits of this one I watched are just him making “the one joke” conservatives have about trans people, it’s so fucking lazy and boring. 

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    DeWine signs executive order banning gender surgeries for minors.

    in The Political Re-Education Camp

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    4 hours ago, CitizenVectron said:

    Look...the fact that you use the phrase "a female" tells me all I need to know about your views on women and gender.

     

    In a situation like this I'm usually willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt when it comes to language. I don't know best all that well but I don't think he's trying to be hateful here or anything. It's not THAT long ago that, "I identify as X," was the most accepted language and that specific turn of phrase is generally out (which makes it being "the one joke" that chuds use a fairy reliable self-snitch), the way people call out their pronouns is different than the fairly recent past too, etc.

     

    Again the larger issue here is similar to pro-birth people being obsessed with very late / third trimester abortions. Despite what they are more than willing to imply or occasionally lie about outright, those types abortions are exceedingly rare, almost always in the interest of the health of the mother, and are very often medically necessary or adjacent to that. Essentially nobody's going into Planned Parenthood 36 weeks into a healthy pregnancy and saying, "you know what? Nah. Gimme an abortion." Most people, including many pro-life people, don't believe that elective, late abortions should be legal, or that they should be more severely limited than ones that happen int he first trimester. Late abortions are brought up as a foot in the door to the discussion about what they really want; the elimination of all abortions at any time.

     

    And it's the same thing here. There aren't tons of kids getting gender reassignment surgery. And let's also be clear that there's differentiation between top and bottom surgery. Last time I poked around at the numbers over a 3 year span, something like 750 top surgeries were done on minors based on gender dysphoria diagnoses. 750 seems like a lot until you realize that there are 40 million patients per year within the same age pool that number came from. When it came to bottom surgery the number is less than 60. In 2020 alone something like 3,200 girls between 13 - 19 got cosmetic breast enhancements. Close to 45,000 got cosmetic nose jobs. 

     

    Will the number of kids undergoing some kind of medical intervention for trans related healthcare increase?In the short term, almost certainly yes.  This doesn't mean that being trans is "trendy" or whatever other bullshit chuds like to claim; these people always existed. They were just unaware of options, unable to access them, etc.

    DeWine signs executive order banning gender surgeries for minors.

    in The Political Re-Education Camp

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    1 hour ago, best3444 said:

     

    I will leave this conversation now. This is where trouble begins for me. I will say you guys come off as pretty educated individuals but some of the stuff said here is ridiculous. Like this that I quoted. 

     

    It's fine to not know about or be informed about a topic, there's nothing wrong with that.

     

    I don't form an opinion on this based on vibes, everything I've read suggests that when it comes to gender reassignment surgery for children it's:

     

    1) Generally not recommended

    2) Very rare

    3) Only happens as a last resort in cases of severe dysphoria which may lead to things like suicide attempts or repeated self-harm

     

    So in cases like this, it's not like my perspective is, "hey man, if it feels good, do it." And like I said, if it seemed like this was suddenly happening all the time, I might have a different notion. But that's not what is happening. If there's reasonable evidence to suggest that in certain cases, giving a minor access to this surgery is going to keep them from killing themselves... I don't think it should be against the law.

     

    And let's also be clear that in cases like this, it's not like the state is advocating for the improvement of access to other gender affirming care, or increased mental health services, or education on trans issues, etc. No. They think trans people are gross so they act like this is a "won't SOMEONE think of the children" issue. Their solution would be to convince trans kids that they're not trans. This is just chum for the base.

     

    1 hour ago, SuperSpreader said:

    I have a similar PERSONAL perspective as best, with the exception of needing to correct issues at birth. I personally believe surgeries should be post 18. At the same time I'm not part of this community and it doesn't directly affect me so I guess chop away? Choice and freedom and all. If it was for me there'd be no circumcision either and everyone would have to be vaccinated and homeschooling + private schools would be illegal but 🤷‍♂️

     

    As a cis, straight, white dude who is generally free of mental health issues, I can't really put myself in the shoes of someone who's trans or someone who has some kind of body dysmorphia. I've never had that experience of feeling out of place in my own skin. I don't even know if those are the right terms to use. So going through surgery does seem like "a lot" to me; I can't really imagine it.

     

    I think it's also worth remembering that for many people, though certainly not all, sexuality or gender identity are known pretty early on. A girl I was friends with in kindergarten wanted to see what kissing was like so we did a little peck. If a boy I was friends with asked me to do the same thing, I wouldn't have. Obviously none of this was sexual at that age but at 6 I wouldn't have kissed a boy. So I don't think it should be surprising that some kids who are very young know that they feel like a boy even if they're assigned female at birth.

     

    Again should we be putting kindergarteners through gender reassignment surgery or giving them puberty blockers? No. Does everyone's gender identity or sexuality crystallize that young? Absolutely not. But I think we often run into situations like these where adults think they universally know best or that the experiences of cis / straight people are not just "the norm" from a statistical standpoint, but "normal" meaning the default or correct. The later is just not accurate.

     

    So again, surgery specifically for minors, according to everything I've read, is rare and in extreme cases. I don't think it should be illegal.

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    DeWine signs executive order banning gender surgeries for minors.

    in The Political Re-Education Camp

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    22 minutes ago, best3444 said:

    Every state should ban it. You should have to be 18 yrs or older to change sex. Even then, that's young. The brain isn't fully developed to make such a life altering decision. 

     

    Bruh you don't even have to read the article on this one.

     

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    Surgeries for minors are rare and are generally not recommended by medical associations, most of which oppose broad bans on transition-related care.

     

    This is not something that happens often, it really only occurs in the case of severe dysmorphia, regret rates for gender reassignment surgery are way less than surgeries to correct things like back pain, etc.

     

    If there was some explosion in gender reassignment surgery for kids, that would be one thing. There isn't. People who like to complain about virtue signaling should be ripshit about stuff like this, since that's absolutely what it is, to say nothing of using the law as a cudgel to do so.

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    Official "Look How Insane and Shitty ALL GOP Officials Are" Thread

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    12 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

     

    Just belief in and worship of Jesus. Whereas I feel most other Christians make that half of the definition with the other half being Jesus being part of the traditional trinity which Mormons reject. 

     

    I think there's a fair portion of Christians that, while they might not think Catholics are "not Christian" to the same extent that Mormons "are not Christian" believe that Catholics are sufficiently weird and only count since they're grandfathered in.

    Steamboat Willie is now public domain

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    On 1/1/2024 at 5:37 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said:
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    Steamboat Willie Is Now Public Domain, Already Has A Horror Game

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    The earliest version of Mickey Mouse is now in the public domain, and horror devs are already taking full advantage.

     

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    Infestation 88 on Steam

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    A co-op horror in which you're an exterminator treating sinister infestations caused by twisted versions of classic characters and urban legends.

     

     

     

    Infestation 88. Really. :| 

    The 2023-24 Mock Gambling Thread - WEEK 18 - Does nobody carry kryptonite anymore?!

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    27 minutes ago, Slug said:

    Putting this out there again so there's no excuses next week: The MGT competition runs through the post-season to the end of the Super Bowl!  Almost every season we get someone who gives up, doesn't submit an entry for the first playoffs round, or makes a stupid bet for the last week of the regular season because they "thought this was the last week" or something.  Don't let this be you.  It's clear in the rules and restated several times throughout the season: The MGT isn't over until the clock hits zero at the end of the Super Bowl.

     

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    Banned for personal attacks.

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    Documents outing Epstein's associates coming soon.

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    The notion of an organized, secret, child sex abuse cabal persists, I believe, because that is a more tolerable thought than the reality that child abuse is just… something some people do. There’s no need for coded messages related to pizza toppings, secret subterranean meetings, and a comprehensive network. People with relative power can get away with it, people with actual power do so borderline openly. 

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    The Divinity Original Sin Board game is here!

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    5 hours ago, legend said:

     

    I don't think so. The rules are pretty manageable, especially if you played the video game whereas Gloomhaven feels vastly more complex, if nothing else but because of all the management of each unit.

     

    It's possible it's a party make up issue. The game, to its credit, has *a lot* of different ways to build your character, but then maybe isn't well tuned for all party set ups. And unlike the video game, you can't go grind something else, or configure things in some crazy set up well outside the usual combat box to achieve victory. 

     

    That said, with the third and fourth bosses we played yesterday we tried the house rule of halving their AP and they were kind of push overs. However, it was to an extent that seemed more than just because they had fewer moves. Their hits just weren't nearly as strong as the first two bosses that hit like a truck *and* kept taking moves from their huge AP pool. So maybe some bosses are well tuned and others not? I dunno. It might be worth trying a mid way point to reduce to 3/4ths AP instead of half. Although my wife tends to like this half rule and is much happier with the last two boss fights because she doesn't want an intense challenge :p And she also dislikes just how long the boss turns go if you give them the full AP because it makes it boring to just have the boss go on and on.

     

    I should look at the rulebook I guess :p  

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