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5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

Yes, Dune Messiah definitively concludes Paul's "be wary of messianic leaders" story arc which is the primary theme for the first two books.

Agreed, but it's in no way a complete story of Dune in general. When I finished Dune Messiah I did not feel like: "ah, yes, this is like Return of the King, the story is over" because it just isn't. Finishing one main story arc does not mean it ends everything on a complete note. The ending to Dune Messiah is really good for the end of Paul's arc, but Dune is bigger than Paul and I don't feel the movies make him bigger than that, it's still about the overall story, which Paul plays a part in. Paul is a cog in a much larger story, reframing a movie adaptation to simply be about him is short sighted I think. It's like Aragorn is obviously a main character in LOTR but LOTR is bigger than Aragorn.

1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said:

If Herbert had stopped after Dune Messiah, it would have been a good ending. If he had stopped after God Emperor of Dune, that also would have been a good ending. There are multiple places you can end reading the OG 6 books and be satisfied, imo. In terms of cinematic adaptations, I think ending after Messiah is perfect.

I'm not saying you can't end it after Dune Messiah, but you really think Dune Messiah ends on a complete note? There are tons of open ended plot threads left unaddressed when it ends. Hell, even with Paul it's not clear until Children of Dune.

24 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

Would your opinion change if there was an extended director's cut?

 

Zack Snyder Wants an Extended Cut of Sucker Punch: 'Even the Director's Cut Is Not Really the Correct Cut' - IGN

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Zack Snyder says he has the footage he needs to "fix" Sucker Punch, but he might need the support of a fan campaign to get his extended cut off the ground.

 

Yeah, I know he's been trotting this around and I'd be interested in seeing it! But the guy should probably make better deals with studios ahead of time.  

I never had a problem with Aloy talking too much myself, but it seems for you guys the patch that lessened her talking wasn't enough.

Horizon Forbidden West update makes Aloy talk less, fixes lots of bugs too - Gamepur

WWW.GAMEPUR.COM

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We get it, you have a stash.

Well what the fuck. I knew they were working on Iron Man and just got added to Battlefield support but I figured Dead Space 2 remake would come after those. I thought the first remake did really well?

38 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

Now? No, I never liked them.

I'm referring to broad spectrum hate, not individual hate, but you have been heard.  

18 hours ago, Spork3245 said:

Do you want to rock & roll all night and… have… a really good time…?

We're hating on Kiss now? Why? No one is claiming they are one of the great bands, but fun? Hell yeah. And unlike a lot of artists they know exactly what they are. New York Groove (for example) is not exactly Kiss (and I know it's a cover but Ace Frehley killed it), but c'mon, this is good shit. My appreciation for Kiss rose dramatically after seeing the excellent comedy Role Models for the best description of Kiss ever.

"They're these Jewish guys who grew up in New York and they put on guitars and make up to get girls. And all their songs are about fucking. This song is called "Love Gun" and it's about Paul Stanley's dick."

19 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

my guy, go out in Oceanside and I promise you you’ll be able to tell the marines just based on what clothes they’re wearing; their style is either “fuck it” or try hard. But they can at least ruck a pack.

12 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said:

Yeah HMU at the movie theater there and we can see a movie and then get some sweet potato pancakes at Swami's Cafe

My brother lives in San Diego so I have been decently often and this was great, I believe it's so easy to tell. Also next time I go will try Swami's Cafe!

I get the sense real marines aren't frequently gun nuts? I have no idea, am I way off base?

25 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

Gun nuts always look like the last guys you’d want on a road march with you too.

I think the first thing I always notice with gun nuts is how slovenly and unkempt most of them look. I know most Americans don't really have style or take care of themselves but this is next level in the Midwest and South. Like, I'm not talking about just being in shape. I'm talking mismatched clothes, terrible hair styles, etc. 

1 hour ago, legend said:

I'm not sure if it's possible to make it work, but it would be interesting to try and do a remake of VI that had the same style as the all the FF cover art/concepts from Yoshitaka Amano. I mean, I know he was also a character design for the games, but the games don't look like this.

It may be doable but Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (the excellent anime film) is based on Amano's character designs and that tried hard to emulate it (and it looks beautiful) but I imagine the cost was astronomical. That was back in 2000 and that was an anime film, not a game, but I imagine a game would be even harder to do. Are you saying to do so from an isometric perspective? That'd probably be more possible at least.

I more or less agree with your system. Unduly harsh with some of your examples compared to what I'd score them but broadly, on point.

1 hour ago, LazyPiranha said:

How in the hell did we get to the conclusion that you’re in idiot for not playing a game from nine years ago?  You’re angry about clickbait titles that aren’t even clickbait, but you also think someone is a dipshit if they found out about a popular game because it was popular and didn’t do an oral history of the previous game before playing?  You call people stupid casuals for not knowing the gameplay loop of a game they didn’t play or a game that hasn’t fully revealed its own loop yet, while at the exact same time not knowing the mechanics of the original game yourself?  What are we even doing here?

Yes, if someone plays a sequel to the same gameplay loop as the previous game and instead believes the race is completely gone in the sequel game (to the degree it "pisses them off") then that's stupid. I said nothing about needing to have played the previous game to know this, you can just look it up online. I'm not angry about anything, I'm simply stating a fact that having clicked the article (and seen others online) that it's clickbait because there's no controversy here. And you exaggerate. Finding out the race isn't permanently gone isn't doing an oral history, it takes a second to find out, it's not work. I know enough of the mechanics of a game that they aren't going to perma-delete an entire race that's part of the gameplay loop. And me knowing/not knowing the offline/online aspect of Helldivers 1 isn't causing me to come to incomplete or incorrect conclusions about the sequel since I'm not disputing or criticizing what the game is doing with that mechanic or feature. So yes, I'm going to call someone stupid if they truly believe "race is gone permanently from sequel game" because one would assume something, anything else first since that's an incredibly stupid conclusion to come to. You don't need to even know the gameplay loop to assume how stupid that is to believe. 

12 minutes ago, TheLeon said:

My thing is that after most movies that I watch, my entire reaction is “yeah, that was fine”. The other day I watched The American Friend, a fairly deep cut, because I wanted to see another take on the Ripley character before watching the new Netflix series with Andrew Scott. Other than thinking it’s really funny that Dennis Hopper and Matt Damon played the same character 20 years apart, I don’t have much of anything to say about that movie, good or bad. 

I mean, that's most movies. Almost every movie I watch ranks between a 6 to a 7.5. A movie being below that is usually abysmal, and a film being above that is a must watch. It's very rare for any film I watch to break that range of score (mostly because I know the bad movies to avoid so I don't end up watching them to begin with and great movies are hard to come by). That being said, it's still at least worth scoring and giving maybe a one sentence blurb about to let others know. But I agree, most movies just kind of come and go. I mean, I love discussing films, but most here just talk about the big, obvious, straightforward stuff like comic book films, etc. There's nothing to really talk about there, so I would love to get into better/stranger/more interesting films with someone more. Like discussing how How to Blow Up a Pipeline is basically a realistic, live-action Final Fantasy VII? That's a conversation worth having.

They fucking nailed the seppuku scene from the book. Goddamn.

The hyper capitalist/crony capitalist system we now live in is absolutely fucked. Any merit the economic system had in breeding competition and meritocracy is long gone. Almost everyone I know is either obsessed with being famous, rich, powerful, highly influential, etc. Everyone is obsessed with money and wealth at the expense of just living and growing as a person.

53 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said:

This game has already massively outsold the original.  I know people in my personal life who play one or two games year who either bought this game or have asked me about it.  The majority of players have never played the original and probably would have no idea this was a sequel if 2 wasn’t in the title.  Most people who play this game have no clue what was or wasn’t present in the original.  If you’re just jumping on the bandwagon now, I don’t think being surprised that an entire faction isn’t playable for a while is unreasonable. 

I'm not sure about the first game being played offline, I only ever played it online. But if your defense is that casuals are stupid, don't know they are playing a sequel, don't understand how the gameplay loop works even if there was a first game to go off of first, etc. you won't find any sympathy here. Their ignorance isn't a criticism of the developer, it's a criticism of casual gamers. I do think if you're just "jumping on the bandwagon now" that being surprised is unreasonable, that's my entire argument. The slightest amount of research (like with anything) would elucidate this for them.

If most people playing this game don't understand the gameplay loop, the articles are still stupid for not informing them better/more clearly rather than trying to drum up clickbait. I don't disagree with you that most Helldivers 2 players, like most people in general, are idiots, but idiots making stupid "jump to conclusions mat" Office Space style are to be chastised and educated, not justified.

43 minutes ago, TheLeon said:

I probably watch an average of 4-5 movies a week (and often a fair bit of TV), but I don’t like giving numerical ratings and don’t have it in me to give “real” reviews most of the time, so I’m not nearly as active in this thread as I could be. 

You're actually a really good film watcher! I've noticed you're always watching (or know of) even the smaller stuff like Nyad, etc. I get not bothering but you should participate more! I wish @Zeluge was around more too.

1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said:

I read them! But it's only something you recently started doing, well posting them anyway. Seems like mostly a lot of sure bets and watching stinkers like Jurassic Park 3 before you see the first movie.

Yeah watching the Jurassic Park movies out of order was my younger brother's fault. And yeah, definitely some stinkers in there trying to catch my younger brother up on some franchises he fell behind on.  A good number of rewatches in the posts but new films as well. And yeah I did start doing it recently, I used to be far more thorough and write reviews wayyyy back but didn't seem like worth the work. But a simple rating seems easy enough. If someone is genuinely curious about a film or a rating I gave they can always follow up and I can elaborate at that point.

39 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said:

You’re reading a tone in the article that absolutely isn’t there.  The entire thing is littered with references to the fact that it’s almost certainly temporary.  It’s more of an interesting curiosity if the way the game runs than anything else.  If they wanted to incite rage, they could have been way more explicit about it.

 

As for them removing half of the game, they actually did for a short period of time.  Unless there’s some offline/private mode I’m unaware of, if I really liked fighting bots or the missions on bot planets, I literally couldn’t.  It’s an interesting choice to make, and one that I’m guessing they knew would piss people off because they came back very quickly.  

Why would it piss anyone off? The first game did the exact same thing over and over. That'd be weird to be upset by a mechanic people have known this game would have since the first has had it for a decade.

15 hours ago, Nokra said:

It legitimately impresses me with how many movies you watch pretty much every weekend. I can barely cook my meals.  

I'm glad someone's reading the posts!  Because I have to keep up with anime, games, movies, TV, books/manga/comics, politics, sports, working out, etc. I live a pretty regimented life so I don't fall behind on anything and I get as much done as possible per week so I do try to get at least four-five movies every weekend (usually don't do movies on weekdays, that's for TV, etc.).

39 minutes ago, Reputator said:

Jesus my nerd meter just went into warp 5.

The break definitely didn't help the season overall.

7 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

It's a reference to the recent Dune movies.  

He looks like Baron Harkonnen looking to take back Arrakis from the Atreides family.