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Just now, Mr.Vic20 said:

Ah, just the man I wanted to see! So I was thinking, is it actually possible for the DLSS and Ray tracing to run together? Because if DLSS is dynamically altering asset details is it not totally screwing up the per pixel ray tracing? The things I think about while putting my pants on, poorly, in the morning! 

Unless the ray tracing pipe is also consuming tensor cores for parts of its rendering and takes too many, yes, they can be run together   

DLSS is quite independent from how the base-level rendering is done; whether it be pure raster, or otherwise. All the neural net is based on is "here is an input image." When you train the net, you can train it using images that used ray tracing to generate both the low-res and high-res images, at which point it learns to upscale for that setting.

So all it means to use DLSS with ray tracing, is that when Nvidia trains the net, it uses images with ray tracing rendering.

56 minutes ago, Spork3245 said:

 

 

... Did you even read any of my posts? The issue is that it's not and/or barely achieving 4k/60 on current games. Your first reply to me you even quoted me as saying it's still under or barely above 60fps at 4k.  

New games that embrace DLSS will be more 4K viable than top end games at this exact moment (unless they're patched for DLSS).

That's not to mention other features that come with the new card that may be used to gain performance.

25 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

 

Not sure if this was posted in this thread yet, but it gives an example of the FPS gains with DLSS vs TAA. Its not perfect, and I noticed that in a few of the higher action scenes that the benefits became overall negligible. That said, its still quite impressive and seemed to deliver quite the performance boost. 

Is this 4K base with DLSS "AA" from super sampling from something even higher; or is it 1400P rastered with DLSS upscaling to 4K? Nvidia talked about both ways you can use the tech.

37 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

Other than having my picture taken, I have literally never been told to smile by anyone.

You were never on candid camera?

I'll see myself out.

47 minutes ago, Nokt said:

2080 is pretty much on par with the 1080ti. May as well save a few hundred and get a 1080ti instead. May just wait until the generation of cards too as the 1080 isn't under performing in any sense at 1440p.

It is not on par with the 1080Ti. The 2080 is far ahead. The problem, though, is the ways its ahead won't start appearing until later this year, and you don't know what the adoption rate of those features is at the moment.

If you were looking for a 4K card and would pay the price of the 2080 if it provided that, I would not get the 1080Ti now. The 2080 very well may be what you're looking for, but you should wait it a bit to see how adoption in the wild goes first. It would be a shame in that scenario to get a 1080Ti now, only to find out that indeed the 2080 is what you wanted if you just waited a bit longer.

19 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said:

This is pretty good considering they're still basically on the same node.  It's a little faster than I initially expected, plus they also managed to cram Tensor and RT cores which aren't even being used in any of these reviews yet.

Right, this is the critical piece to bear in mind. On just regular classic rasterization, you're getting a bump. But you're also getting a shit ton more of really exciting stuff that will simply take a little time to trickle out rather than being there right out of the gate (if nothing else but because of waiting for MS to release an DX update).

If you want practical 4K, you can't look at these stats and be disappointed, because current results don't tell the full story: they're not using the innovative systems (DLSS) Nvidia has provided to address that.

If you want to wait for real world analysis of the new stuff, that's completely reasonable, but you really shouldn't be evaluating this card on the pure classic rasterization only being a fairly typical bump.

Nice. I would still love to see DLSS and ray tracing in the wild, but as far as regular rasterization, that's what I was expecting/hoping to see confirmed.

Now it's a question of when I will get one and whether I go 2080 or 2080Ti. 

I dunno if it's because of Spiderman, but suddenly all PS4 Pros are sold out everywhere  

On 9/12/2018 at 7:57 AM, ManUtdRedDevils said:

 

Tagged for later.

That's right, going old school IGN up in here. Whoooooo!!

That's some old-school promotional material!

I will be interested to see how this one turns out.

Doesn't really matter but....

1 hour ago, ALIEN-gunner said:

It was a damn good trailer much better than Captain Marvel's trailer even with a somewhat similar sombre tone but that was a trailer made later. The debut trailer for Winter Soldier was less brooding, had high action and cool dialog. It really made people excited and gave them something awesome to look forward to, just what a debut trailer is designed for. Captain Marvel's debut trailer looks pretty generic and boring to me. Doesn't really have any cool dialog or much of any action and the main characters expressions are basically all the same: dead and lifeless. It makes me think low budget material and that I should wait for home video streaming. 

If you think the posted Winter Soldier trailer was great, then your problem really isn't with serious face.

1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

How do you respond to the trailer posted above for Winter Soldier, which is the same? And that is probably objectively the best MCU movie.

FTFY

I dunno. I like Emily Blunt a lot, and I liked the original as a kid, but this didn't really do anything for me.

5 hours ago, best3444 said:

 

But what will the emote convey? It looks like it's just content and just so slightly satisfied. 

I dunno. I feel like you can easily project a lot of emotions onto it, which is perhaps why it's funny. For example, I can totally see this face being attributed to a surprise fart.

I mean just for reference, here is the trailer for the best Marvel movie: Winter Solider:

The trailer is nothing but brooding Cap. The one joke is even a dry joke. 

It seems odd to single out the actress for Captain Marvel for a trailer like this.

3 minutes ago, ALIEN-gunner said:

Only in the car does she barely attempt to crack a smile. I'd expect a trailer to get someone excited for such a character like her. She looked bland and it make the entire trailer look pretty generic for me. The only exciting part was the music. The bad CGI wasn't good either. Overall it's just another Marvel movie I guess. 

She also smiles when walking out to the jets. Regardless, my point stands. I think all you can conclude at this point is you have a problem with trailer taking a serious dominant tone. There's plenty of room for more levity in the film.

As far as the actress herself, everything I've seen from her indicates she's very excited about this role.

3 minutes ago, ALIEN-gunner said:

Her dreadful facial expression in every single scene. 

It's hard to draw a conclusion like that when you'd expect a serious expression in the majority of scenes they included in the trailer.

I like this:

1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said:

The headcanon I have for the end of Infinity War is that Bucky’s arm survives the snap and Rocket carries it with him everywhere as a reminder of what it cost to get it.

I love this. It must be integrated. Especially for the lols when Bucky comes back.

37 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

The 45 seconds Fury is aware of the snap before he grabs the beeper suggest that either he’s been warned that someone might do something like that or I guess that he figured that specifically was the only thing he could do on the off chance that he was gonna dust also. Both of those seem like a stretch, so who knows.

I lean more toward the latter. The world is going to shit so fast that if ever he had a need beyond the avengers of Earth, that seems like the moment. We'll see though!

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It’s possible I’ve spent WAY TOO MUCH TIME wondering why the people who dust have EVERYTHING THEY ARE TOUCHING get dusted, clothes, weapons, etc. But that beeper DOESN’T dust. Maybe EVERTYHING about Captain Marvel is undustable. We need to go deeper.

I got it! The determination of what to dust is a function of the state of affairs at the moment of the snap, not the duration it takes to complete it. Nick wasn't holding the beeper when the snap happened (he had to run to get it); ergo, the beeper was not selected for dusting.

23 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

He doesn't.

Yeah, while I suppose they could have her be "outside" the universe or something, I think this is a perfectly valid possibility. It's a 50-50 chance she got hit or not. Moreover, as far as we were shown, Fury doesn't even know what's happening. All he knows is the world around him is falling apart.

What about these?

Also, who knew the Inception sheep had such vocal range!?

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Higher. Further. Faster. Watch the trailer for Marvel Studios’ Captain Marvel, in theaters March 8, 2019.

Maybe I'm just a sucker, but it's working for me. I'm in.

3 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

Yes, its true! I also expect we won't see the DLSS support out of the gate either. The whole launch seems like Nvidia only recently bothered to let others know what they we up to regarding the new tech. Which totally sounds like Nvidia's typical half baked launches. 

In this case it sounds like MS is the holdup since it depends on DirectX. Working on top of DirectX sounds like the right move, and ideally, Nvidia would have timed the release, but that may have been difficult.