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  1. 10 minutes ago, ort said:

    The current level of Israel discourse on twitter is unfathomable toxic and terrible. Like, I spend a lot of time wallowing in dark hostile places online and I can't remember ever seeing it quite like this. It's soul crushing and depressing.

     

    Everyone should have to take a quiz on the Israeli Palestinian conflict before posting about it. 

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  2. The problem with the two state solution is that Gaza was basically the test case and failed. So the discussion needs to be how do you make a Palestinian State viable? The Palestinian Authority might outright collapse once Abbas dies. 

     

    WWW.WASHINGTONPOST.COM

    Israel's military operation in Jenin exposed the weakness of the Palestinian Authority, which many Palestinians view as increasingly irrelevant and out of touch.
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    “The PA has never been weaker,” said Diana Buttu, a lawyer who advised the Palestinian negotiating team during the second intifada, from 2000 to 2005.

     

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    But she also believes that Mahmoud Abbas — the aging and deeply unpopular Palestinian president who has stretched his mandate from four years to two decades — has failed to adapt to a new reality.

    “It’s like Abu Mazen is stuck in the 1990s; it’s a joke,” Buttu said, using Abbas’s Arabic moniker. “The only people who are still speaking about the two-state solution are Abu Mazen and the international community. Israel has moved on.”

     

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    Abbas visited Jenin on Wednesday, arriving from Ramallah in a Jordanian helicopter and flanked by several branches of his security forces. It was his first public appearance there since the last Palestinian presidential election campaign in 2005.

     

     

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  3. 1 minute ago, Greatoneshere said:

     

     

    It shouldn't matter. They should be allowed, internally, to create whatever country and values and system of government that the people desire and can vote for. If the worry is it becomes a haven for terrorists and Muslim fundamentalists ala Afghanistan or Iraq, well, how do you think it got to here? Israel has created an environment of hatred amongst the people suffering there that they probably believe at this point its their only recourse. It's ironic that Israel is worried about the West Bank turning into a super Gaza when the only reason that could happen is because of what Israel has been doing to it for 75 years, and now everyone was like: "well, it's bad and dangerous, so we have to stop it". Creating the problem that you then have to fix is on you. And I certainly don't think a ground invasion of Gaza where you massacre civilians is the right response to these worries, this requires a measured hand.

     

    How do you suggest undoing those 75 years of bad blood? 

  4. 1 minute ago, Greatoneshere said:

    By the way, suggesting that one group can't exist because we're presuming what their country would like if they had it free and clear is fucked up. It could turn into a pre-Erdogan Turkey for all we know.

     

    Israel has pretty good reason to believe the West Bank would turn into a Super Gaza, which would lead to another open air prison once Israel and Jordan close their borders, which is exactly what happened in Gaza. 

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  5. 7 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

    This is probably the only time I'll bother to respond to you since you're clearly intractable and biased on this issue, but this statement makes no sense. Are you really going to talk about the conquering and re-conquering of the area by different groups hundreds of years ago? That's completely irrelevant to today or modern history, which is what matters here. For a long time Palestinians lived there, then in the 1890's a Zionist movement started to begin a displacement process, and then after WW2 the UN led by the UK basically destroyed Palestine to get rid of the Jews in Europe and make it another area's problem and the Jews who went primarily embraced it. Nothing before the Palestinians were there (which was for quite awhile before WW2) matters.

     

     

    75 of years of things in Europe for Jews being relatively okay, doesn't erase 1,000 years of slaughter in a group's collective conciseness. I wouldn't say they embraced it. 

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  6. Ike Strike Group is moving to 5th Fleet in the Gulf, will not be joining up the Ford. Army is deploying a THAAD battery and Patriot battalions to the CENTCOM region. 

     

    WWW.DEFENSE.GOV

    Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III released a statement regarding recent escalations by Iran and its proxy forces across the Middle East region.

     

  7. 46 minutes ago, Comet said:

    I was just making this point to my wife last night, that’s what this place needs. 

     

    Been there done that in Iraq and Afghanistan. You'd need 60k troops to baby sit just Gaza for at least a decade plus a ton of development money, in a situation where a bored Corporal can upend the entire effort by shooting a kid. Japan and Germany worked because they were two countries beat down by fire bombing, 2 nukes, and a realization that the Red Army occupying the place instead would be worse. 

  8. 24 minutes ago, Subzwari1987 said:

    Hopefully your people in Israel can take Netanyanu and kick his ass out the door and the next administration can take a different approach and work with the PA on an approach for peace and prosperity for everyone in the West Bank, Jerusalem and Gaza. It needs to start in the West Bank and they need to pull back the settlers and IDF troops who routinely abuse the Palestinian residents there. 

     

    You'd first have to convince, even Israeli liberals at this point, that doing so wouldn't just result in the West Bank becoming Super Gaza (Hamas take over followed by Israel and Jordan sealing their borders creating another open air prison). 

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  9. WWW.CNN.COM

    A US Navy warship operating in the Middle East intercepted multiple projectiles near the coast of Yemen, two US officials told CNN.

     

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    A US Navy warship operating in the Middle East intercepted multiple projectiles near the coast of Yemen, two US officials told CNN.

     

    One of the officials said the missiles were fired by Iranian-backed Houthi militants, who are engaged in an ongoing conflict in Yemen. Approximately 2-3 missiles were intercepted, according to the second official.

     

    The officials said it was unclear what the missiles were targeting. It’s possible the missiles were fired at the USS Carney or launched towards another target.

     

     

  10. 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

    If anyone was under the illusion that North Carolina was something resembling a democracy, these maps should put the final nail in that coffin.

     

    There is NO balance of power between the branches either, the Governor is the constitutionally weakest in the country and the Courts aren't interested / are ignored. 

  11. 17 minutes ago, CayceG said:

    My wild-ass guess of how a Hamas rocket could do this is that the engine flamed out and the rocket fell, detonating the warhead, which then detonated the fuel. Detonating rocket fuel would probably cause a much larger explosion than the warhead itself. 

     

     

    I think it's possible. Maybe even plausible. But also... it's more likely Israel bombed a hospital because they've done that before. This is a level of destruction heretofore unseen from Hamas rocket launches. 

     

    Have we seen other rockets falling short creating a blast that big though? Seems like it be a regular thing given the fail rate. 

  12. 3 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

    I thought the 26th was already on station?

     

    They were in Kuwait last week. This could also be viewed as getting those ships out of 5th Fleet in case Iran wants to take a shot at a capital ship in the Gulf. 

     

    WWW.MILITARY.COM

    The 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, or MEU, is capable of conducting amphibious operations and crisis response, among other missions.

     

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