Chairslinger

14 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

They could do a good Trek movie if they were willing to make the movies under the assumption that the audience is up to date on the show(s). It would solve a lot of the problems with movie Trek to make the movies the action-packed payoff for events in the show. Like if one of the TNG movies had been about the Enterprise off on a critical Dominion War mission, or if we'd gotten Enterprise season 5 and Enterprise movies, doing an Enterprise movie that focuses on a key battle of the Earth-Romulan War.

 

The action would work if there was a reason to care about it. Plus it's the kind of thing thing that might actually be better served getting to work with a movie budget anyhow. As a bonus it would probably take some of the strain off the TV budget, relieving them of the need to HAVE to do bottle episodes to even out the budget. 

Yeah, I've ranted about this before. It still drives me nuts to this day that they released the tripe that was Insurrection instead of a huge blockbuster mixing the DS9 and TNG crew for a Dominion War story.

They should really consider doing this in the age of Marvel. Most people have on-demand nowadays, if they can follow 20 movies to get the payoff from Infinity War anyone who is inclined to see the movie in the first place can watch the entirety of Trek which is on Netflix and Hulu and has been for about a decade.

I still think the Borg Destiny trilogy would make for a Trek cinematic experience few people would have thought possible. Again, hurry up while the actors are still viable to play they're parts! 

Edit: It occurs to me that Trek is kind of unique in how almost every actor in it has lived into pretty old age.

Some TOS actors are gone now with DeForrest Kelly and Leonard Nimoy, but other than that almost all the main cast from all 5 shows are still alive.

12 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

Fantastic. Met Nolan North as well and he signed my Uncharted 4 case for free even though I just paid for a photo. First Comic-Con ever and it was lovely.

Did Spinner do a Q&A? Did he talk about anything?

1 minute ago, SaysWho? said:

 

FYI, I was able to go to the Tampa Bay Comic-Con today and met Data. Pretty badass!

I was wondering if you meant that literally!

How was it?

Just now, Jason said:

 

Maybe she's the only one capable of steaming his pants while he's wearing them. 

Trump: Ok, let's go over your story again, what do you say if Mueller asks about the statement I wrote for Donny Jr. About the Trump Tower meaning?

Hicks: Glah, glah, glah, glah!!

Just kidding. I doubt he has enough to gag on.

12 minutes ago, elbobo said:

 

Since no scripts have been written yet when they actually get around to filming this Patrick Stewart will be 79 or maybe even 80 and despite the fact that he has done an amazing job of keeping himself in shape over the years there is no getting around the fact that he is straight up elderly at this point, returning him to the diplomatic role/moral rock that he was in the series vs the quasi-action hero he was in the movies is the absolute right move from both a practical standpoint and storytelling one.

After the reboot movies and Discovery anyone who thinks it's a good idea to bring Stewart back to be an action star, regardless of his age, should thrown out an airlock.

To be fair, it's nigh impossible to do real Trek in movie form. So the whole point here, to me, would be to give Stewart 10 or so hours to tell stories deeper than "beat the bad guy".

Also, always fun to point out that on the various occasions that they artificially aged Picard in the series(All Good Things, Inner Light) he looked so much worse than actual 25 years older Patrick Stewart looks.

2 hours ago, MarSolo said:

Hope Hicks has daddy issues I take it.

Technically I think it would count as granddaddy issues.

On 8/3/2018 at 9:01 PM, Reputator said:

Hilarious parody of Trump supporter campaigns. 

 

 

...What's that? He's serious? Oh... Oh dear god....

To be fair, the kids look adorable when he starts teaching them to goose step.

7 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said:

In Jean-Luc's autobiography, he becomes the ambassador to Vulcan.

I didn't know that.

I heard about that book, but I haven't read it yet. I was an avid reader of the non-canon books but I haven't kept up with them for the past couple of years.

It's interesting that they aren't saying he's at least going to be a Captain. So maybe they are going totally unconventional, but if he is going to still be Captain of the Enterprise here's some things to remember and a kind of roundup of where the characters wound up in the canon.....

- First off, I know they make it a point to say that this is not a TNG reboot series, but it's worth saying that all the cast still love each other and you would be hard pressed to see a group of actors at conferences and roundtables who look more like they genuinely enjoy being around one another. It may not be a TNG reboot, but the only impediment to having cameos from the others would be money or writers not wanting it, I think. Slight spoiler alert, this was a recent picture of two TNG alumni on the set of the Orville one guest starring in an episode the other is directing.....

- Data died in Nemesis, but they set up the possibility of B4 as a replacement for Data. Spinner himself said he wanted to kill off Data to end the temptation of playing Data for too long because Data shouldn't age. But they found a creative way to work limitation into a three parter for Enterprise that turned out fantastic. Still, I am not sure how you would work Spinner into a 2380's storyline.

- Troy and Riker were married in Nemesis and left the Enterprise. They took over as Captain and Counselor on the U.S.S. Titan. A starship that was on a long range exploratory mission. While they are non-canon the relaunch novels established that this was a long term thing for Riker and Troy and I would imagine the canon continue from there. And it would give them the perfect opportunity to cameo without being part of the main cast.

- As far as canon goes, it's very difficult to place where Worf is. As far as I know the last concrete location we got for him was when he went to Qu'nos at the end of DS9 because Martok wanted him to be the Federation ambassador to the Klingon Empire. Remember the last three films all had varying degrees of strained explanations of why Work wound up on the Enterprise for those films(First Contact he was rescued from the Defiant during the battle with the Borg and Nemesis he was there for Troy and Riker's wedding, I don't even remember the explanation for Insurrection). In the non-canon books Worf actually became PIcard's first officer when Riker left and Data died, but there's no reason to think the writers of a show would use that.

- I think as far as we know Crusher was still the doctor on the Enterprise at the end of Nemesis. One interesting tidbit here is that in the non-canon books Picard and Crusher finally have a relationship, marry, and have a child together. Again, while there is no reason to think a new series would feel bound by this it is something that was long hinted at in TNG and feels like the kind of detail that would make for good "while you were away" details from the character. Since the canon-ish alternate future in All Good Things even had them married and divorced,  it seems likely something about Picard and Crusher and the intervening years will be mentioned in the series.

- Geordi. I believe he remained the Chief Engineer on the Enterprise at the end of Nemesis. But an episode of Voyager(which was eventually an erased timeline, but none of the details that were erased should have effected the fact that Geordi was a Captain), as well as non-canon novels, finally gave him a command. Seems like another great opportunity for at least a cameo.

Just now, Jason said:

 

While I'd like to see them get over this weird aversion they seem to have regarding going post-Voyager/Nemesis, I feel like it's at least still progress that they're finally doing something post-TOS again.

Absolutely.

They still seem to be stuck in the mindset that, for the most part, sunk Enterprise creatively for 2 seasons and in the ratings for it's entire run. The obsession with making the next ToS. I think they are neglecting the fact that, while some of us like ToS, the vast majority of what would make up their audience now grew up watching TNG, DS9, and Voy.....not ToS. Some would argue that DS9 and Voy weren't ratings juggernauts, but even granting that TNG was bigger than ToS ever was.

Gen Xers and older Millenials are now to Star Trek what baby boomers were to Star Trek in the 80's. Considering that they want people to sign up for All Access, going to the well one more time for that coveted Social Security age audience that remembers watching ToS when it first aired doesn't seem like that great of an idea. To get back to what you said, I just don't see how seeing the 2380's or 90's is not something most Star Trek fans would be interested in now. Especially when you can still have most of the actors reprise those roles(something that is no longer an option for ToS).

I know I have pimped this idea before, and this is not something they would cover in this Stewart series, but they are just leaving Borg storylines on the shelf. The most popular Star Trek(and sci-fi in general) villain of all time and they're doing nothing with them because they just keep dipping their toe in the ToS pond.

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“I will always be very proud to have been a part of Star Trek: The Next Generation, but when we wrapped that final movie in the spring of 2002, I truly felt my time with Star Trek had run its natural course,” Stewart said. “It is, therefore, an unexpected but delightful surprise to find myself excited and invigorated to be returning to Jean-Luc Picard and to explore new dimensions within him. Seeking out new life for him, when I thought that life was over.”

 

“During these past years, it has been humbling to hear many stories about how The Next Generation brought people comfort, saw them through difficult periods in their lives or how the example of Jean-Luc inspired so many to follow in his footsteps, pursuing science, exploration and leadership,” Stewart continued. “I feel I’m ready to return to him for the same reason – to research and experience what comforting and reforming light he might shine on these often very dark times. I look forward to working with our brilliant creative team as we endeavor to bring a fresh, unexpected and pertinent story to life once more.”

 

Leave it to Patrick Stewart to express more thoughtfulness and depth in the spirit of Star Trek in two paragraphs than Discovery did in 15 episodes.

While I worry about the direction of the series, if there is anyone who I trust to only take part in it if he feels it's of high quality it's Patrick Stewart.

Anyway, oooohhhh, lookit me, I'm @SaysWho? I just finished watched TNG and totally didn't have to wait a decade and a half to see Jean Luc Picard again 

Our dystopian future of corporate nation states continues apace. 

While I disagree with them politically, Haley and McMahon at least seem like decent human beings.

There was a story a while back about how McMahon was doing some pretty good things with the small business administration without drawing a ton of attention to herself. She may be the closest thing this admin has to a "normal" department head.

46 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

I would be so  if Hannity is somehow implicated and indicted in the Russia investigation or the Cohen investigation. 

I'd be like  i i i

 

What set Acosta off?

He doesn't tend to be a firespitter, from what I've seen of him.

1 hour ago, Ricofoley said:

Here are three things that are definitely the same

1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Putting Dijon mustard on a hamburger is tantamount to treason... if you're black.

This has always puzzled me.

We serve dijon mustard at Arby's. I sometimes like A1 sauce on my hamburger.

In what universe is putting dijon mustard on a hamburger "fancy"?

17 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

2 has a huge fan base. I've never played any of them, but the praise for 2 and its level design is always at an extremely high level.

Metacritic tells the basic story of how I would sum up the series. Killzone was an ambitious game that was more or less kneecapped by the hardware.

KZ2 was the height of the series. It's one of the PS3's highest rated games. If it wasn't AAA than the term basically has no meaning. Just because I don't like Halo doesn't mean I don't acknowledge it's a AAA title. KZ3 had the not uncommon flaw of being about as good as 2, but got marked off for being more of the same, but still AAA.

Shadowfall didn't change enough, so it was received even more harshly. Guerilla was right to move on.

Oh, I thought this was the other Micheal Moore's upcoming documentary What It's Like To Look Like You've Been Held Hostage By Somali Pirates For 2 1/2 Years.

11 minutes ago, Nokra said:

Why exactly is he saying that Hillary Clinton proactively sought out dirt from the Russians? Did I miss something? 

As far as I can tell, it's a pure, "you're the puppet", fantasy.

Like, even more so than the normal bullshit with a razor thin justification or conspiracy theory. Literally his only justification for saying Hillary wanted dirt from Russians is because people are saying he wanted dirt from Russians. It's like someone said he had testicular cancer so he said nuh uh, Hillary has testicular cancer.

18 minutes ago, ort said:

It only has to make enough sense for his idiotic supporters.

 

He's the king of morons.

This is one of the areas where I really see Christians(particularly Evangelicals) and Trump voters overlap.

This exact kind of triage, whatever gets you through the next 5 minutes of argumentation no matter how strained or intellectually dishonest discourse that Trump has rode into the presidency is exactly the same argument I had for years with Biblical literalists.

It doesn't matter how much they contradict themselves, or make razor thin arguments. They already know what they want to believe. They just have to Gish Gallop away until you get tired of spending 10 times the effort to knock down each claim they pull out of their ass. 

I actually think the skeptical community, while largely anti-Trump, has dropped the ball on connecting the dots that when you concentrate a group like Evangelicals into one party, and they make up a significant chunk of that party, and their religion teaches them not just bad things to think but bad ways of thinking, eventually you are going to get a group very susceptible to a charlatan like Trump.

1 minute ago, osxmatt said:

This is code for Christian nationalism, right?

Not really.

I mean, it's definately Christian nationalism, but I am not sure if it really counts as code anymore

1 hour ago, Chris- said:

 

Regardless of the verdict for conspiracy or failing to register as a foreign agent, he's not escaping tax fraud, bank fraud, and money laundering. 

Well, worst case, most cynical scenario if even one true Trump believer makes it into the jury they can get Manafort off, right?

I am not familiar with jury protocol, if it becomes clear a juror is doing a DVD donkey impression no matter how airtight the evidence is, is there a way to replace that juror or is retrying the case the best they can do?

5 hours ago, Nokra said:

I don't believe you're doing this yourself so please don't take this personally, but this kind of poopooing of people's fears annoys me a bit. The guy can't seem to believe that people might be afraid of someone who is different than them, or being a bit afraid of the unknown, when we've spent thousands of years of our evolutionary history doing just that. Obviously the time for that is over and it's time to move on to a multicultural society free of fear of "the other". But to find it hard to believe that this still happens reminds me of people who just can't fucking believe that someone has never seen Star Wars or something. :P 

I think the statement is calling out news outlets for allowing themselves to be dragged into the realm of euphemising racism.

"Demographic anxiety" is a pretty blatant way of candy coating "they fuckin racist".

3 hours ago, SaysWho? said:

 

You know, I don't actually mind showing my ID to buy groceries. It's more the training to buy shampoo that gets me.

What I don't like is the cavity searches to buy bananas. Amirite, guys?

Guys?

Ok, now I'm thinking the bag boy is lying to me....

2 hours ago, thewhyteboar said:

 

That is perhaps the best, plain language summary of the current push for Christian privilege I have ever heard.

They should just call it Christian liberty at this point.

Not like SCOTUS is going to knock it down for some lazy language after Trinity Lutheran and Trump v. Hawaii.

1 hour ago, 2user1cup said:

Up next, crooked H flunkie Maggie Haberman defends Trump.

Trump: Maggie Haberman is Hitler.

Media: Trump is an asshole for calling Maggie Haberman Hitler.

Maggie Haberman: Where oh where has the media's civility gone?!?!

11 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

And it was just a total coincidence that when he saw Jr. walk by Mueller played the funeral march on his phone.