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15 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

Mike Kelly urging the Supreme Court to halt/decertify PA electoral certification:

Rep. Mike Kelly asks Supreme Court to nullify Biden win over Trump in Pennsylvania as he challenges mail-in ballot rule

WWW.CNBC.COM

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Rep. Mike Kelly's request comes after Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf already has certified that Joe Biden won the state over President Donald Trump.

Also, a decent article on a radical gambit the GOP could try to pull if they can get one House member and one senator to agree to it:

How Trump’s Hill allies could take one last shot to overturn the election - POLITICO

WWW.POLITICO.COM

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It's deeply unlikely to succeed, but some House Republicans are weighing an effort to challenge Biden's Electoral College win.

Seems far fetched and it’s hard for me to imagine they’d ever really go through with it, but nonetheless one must be wary of just how in thrall senators like Rand Paul are to Trump; he’s already peddling voting machine conspiracies.
 

Interesting that a small cadre of Democrats (in the House of course) threatened to do the same thing when the electoral college finally pledged its votes for Trump in 2016, but were overruled by saner institutionalists, including Biden.

If they do that Pelosi can just choose not to hold a vote and become president.

10 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

 

 

Am I missing something when I say it might be Flynn?

 

The timing of this unsealing on the same day the official pardon was issued seems like undercover cops waiting until the drugs change hands to make the arrest....

That would be something if Trump actually took the money.  It would be the mother of all scandals. 

5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

Not that I think this will land on Trump, but it would be delicious if the thing that got him nailed was trying to help others not get nailed.

 

 

His motivation is money not helping others.

So is there gonna be a pool on who it is?  My bet is Manafort. 

I'm guessing its Manafort and associates. 

I love how he includes unnecessary qualifiers for the MAGA crowd.

This is just Trump trying to fuck up any attempt at getting back in the nuclear deal. 

26 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said:

Competition for what, though? Like I said, they won! They won life!

 

Some people, like Trump, very clearly have deep, deep insecurities. I can understand why nothing is ever enough for him, because all you have to do is tell him he still has tiny hands and he'll make it his next goal to have the largest gold plated living room ever built. Kelly Loeffler does not strike me as such a person. She won, and she knows she won.

They see themselves as poor compared to the multi billionaires.

18 minutes ago, Uaarkson said:

I didn't even hear a ringtone.

Put on some headphones. It is definitely there.

22 minutes ago, H3R3TIC said:

Treason? 

FARNAN: Dems Tried to End Trump’s Presidency By Framing General Flynn (Because They Cheat)

THENATIONALPULSE.COM

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After the 2016 election, the Washington insiders who had together orchestrated The Russia Lie switched into a cover-up, hide-the-evidence,

 

What is this shit?

These kind of conflicts just show how Americans are giant obese pussies when it comes to our internal strife. Those canvassers in Michigan should have got the guillotine. 

4 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

He's gonna walk out on his own and the media will once again proclaim "now he has finally became the president"

Fareed Zakaria has entered the chat

I have 20k on hand just in case the orange clown launches some missiles before he leaves office.

32 minutes ago, CayceG said:

I'm still riding high on getting the map right, aside from Georgia. 

Georgia was everyone's bracket buster.

It was pretty clear that many Republicans in positions of power were at least open to outright stealing the election. That in itself is extremely worrying for the future.

5 hours ago, Jwheel86 said:

Welp, my mom, who's my main caretaker, went in 5 days ago for an EKG (she had a mild heart attack 4 years) and got exposed to COVID by the nurse doing the EKG. Thankfully my girlfriend is back so we're holed up in the Guest House waiting for test results. No one has symptoms. 

I hope the nurse and your mom were wearing masks.  

NSFW

51 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said:

Late stage capitalism mixed with climate change will eventually cause the downfall of our society anyway.

 

I remember talking to my mom about how capitalism ultimately fails when society hits a point at which there aren't that many things we need people to do anymore. She, a stout conservative, was always like "new job fields will open up." Most people think like that. But eventually 90% of transit and service jobs will be gone. There's even development in having primary care doctors replaced with AI. Then the whole system collapses because it turns out Jeff Bezos can't keep making billions when people don't have any money to spend. And then the system fails because capitalism doesn't care about "useless mouths." Then there's y'know, the planet dying.

 

The progressive democrats are the only people who seem to see that and want to do something about it. Weird how they're mostly young people who will actually live to see it happen. Pelosi, Biden, Schumer, and all the other assholes just pay lip service to liberalism and ignore the plight of common people, which is how we got Trump.

 

So no, I don't think things will revert to how they "used to be," nor should they. But I feel like voting for establishment Democrats rather than Republicans at least gives me a future of Blade Runner rather than Mad Max.

Biden was a "stop the bleeding so we don't die right now" candidate. Without a future election constraining him and a senate that will let him get away with anything I shutter to think the kind of damage Trump could have done. The next election is when its time to start really addressing the problems of the future. In the meantime we have to hope everything holds together.
 

6 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

I honestly don't think any of us on this board is suffering from "normalcy bias" in the least of have any expectation that things will "revert to how they used to be" (nor should they because that is precisely how we got to this place to begin with).

 

In fact, it's quite the opposite: this board fully clesr-eyed that the system is fundamentally, irreversibly, and irreparably broken.  We are way past the point of no return and this Pyrrhic victory merely an interregnum on the continued imperial descent.

 

As for how long this national polity lasts, I would be shocked if there are more than 40 years left.

The Bicameral system only functions with cooperation and "norms" as it is an inherently unstable form of government. I don't see either returning anytime soon. Our only hope is that no one inspires the same kind of fanatical following in the future. I suspect if Trump 2.0 comes along it will be a conservative talk show host like Dan Patrick of Texas.

Just now, Reputator said:

 

Man the way that started, I 100% expected that to end with her termination.

Oh I'm sure it still will.

I can't wait for a team of anti-Jareds.

4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

He's your standard, unremarkable Nat Sec policy wonk.

I like it when you talk dirty.

30 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Key GOP Michigan canvassing board member expected to vote against certifying results

WWW.CNN.COM

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A key Republican on the Michigan canvassing board is expected to vote against certifying the state's election results on Monday, a potential boon for the Trump campaign's conspiracy theory-fueled effort to delay the finalization of results.

 

The question is whether the other Republican also votes against certification which will immediately toss it to the Michigan courts who will order certification.  The governor can also replace the two Republicans with ones who will vote for certification (the last two GOP governors for example).

This is all for show to please the dear leader. It doesn't matter to the actual outcome.