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  1. 13 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

     

    The we who are looking at the data.


    I would suggest reading Table 2 in the article you linked.

     

    Compare the rates of mortality per 100k people from the Flu. Look at Europe (5.3 per 100k) to South East Asia (5.8). Vaccination and not living with food animals certainly doesn’t apply to SE Asia
     

    But more importantly is that the rates of flu death have decreased in all regions of the world over the last 100 years even though most of the world doesn’t have the level of vaccination that wealthy nations do.

    Table 2 is an average of 2002 - 2011 so it's a snapshot of about 10 years.  Per 100,000 for each region 6.2 (Americas) is not that far off from 5.8 (SE Asia).  Also Americas includes South America, a particularly poor region of the world factoring into (we) numbers.  Finally the entire paper is about those poorer regions not being able to accurately count deaths due to flu and is seen in the amount influenza related excess deaths. 

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    I never said that rates of flu death hasn't decreased everywhere, just that it's decreased more in places where there is better access to vaccines/care and public health measures and it's less a factor of people just getting antibodies to various strains, as those things are not consistent or necessarily long lasting.

  2. On 12/29/2021 at 3:40 PM, johnny said:

    he was kinda distracting because he sounded like a more sinister version of his ready player one character 

    I kept trying to place him.  But he did get that creepy vibe down pat in both those rolls.

    On 12/30/2021 at 1:48 AM, sblfilms said:

    The funniest thing about this was listening to my two very conservative brother in laws recommend the movie and think the joke wasn’t about them

    How, why, what?  I have all of the questions.

  3. 1 hour ago, sblfilms said:


    What about most of the world for which neither of these things are true, but we also don’t see the same level of flu caused deaths as we previously did?

    Who is we in this statement.  If you mean countries with healthcare and money, it would be for the reasons I stated, and most of the poorer countries that neither is true they have not seen nearly the reduction in flu deaths that countries like US and UK have seen in the past 100 years that can be explained with people getting various strains of the flu.

     

    This is the paper that I found that hopefully backs up this point better than I can articulate.

     

    From the conclusion:

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    Our study highlights systematic regional variation in influenza mortality burden, in part driven by health care and socio-economic development, which should be further investigated as more data become available.

     

  4. 2 hours ago, PaladinSolo said:

    The more people that survive omicron makes it more likely you'll survive the next variant, theres a pretty good reason why you don't see the Flu just up and kill a million people one year because we all have familiarity to it and all the variants.

    Honestly It's more to do with the fact that we have upped our game with the flu vaccine, and that we don't live with our food animals as much anymore.  It's not like a human flu can't mix with a high mortality bird flu in a pig and give us 1918 levels of death.  Viruses don't have those types of evolutionary pressures such as people surviving or living through it.  It's just that we have taken more proactive steps to ensure that it is unlikely to happen again, and if it does we will have the anti-viral meds and vaccines to combat it.

  5. 12 hours ago, Ghost_MH said:

     

    Blame all those people that saw cute piglets on the Internet, bought a one, and then just let them loose into the wild when they learned cute little piglets eventually turn into pigs.

    Fun fact: domesticated pigs will revert back into boars in their lifespan, gain tusks/grow longer dark hair.  You can also take in a boar and do the opposite, they will eventually loose tusks and hair the longer they are in captivity.

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