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2 hours ago, Dodger said:

Bombasador. I ended up meeting him years ago which is weird because we used to hate each other. Cool dude though 

That was him. Did he ever make it over here or faded away on IGN?

They've destroyed the MTG brand. I've played it since The Dark and owned a hobby gaming store from 2008-2012. There was a resurgence around that time with Lorwyn and Morningtide and the sets following it, but the last few years they've printed the game to exhaustion. They tried to stay relevant by inserting questionable cultural content into the game, but games like Pokemon are riding the wave of nostalgia far better. 

Just now, Chris- said:

 

We got to witness your entire character arc

It was so much fun. Everyday was a blast. I drove to Atlanta recently and I was trying to remember the dude's name who lived in Macon. He had a beard, married, sorta conservative. 

On 11/27/2023 at 10:52 PM, SaysWho? said:

 

Puts a tear in my eye how goofy my early adult years were on that board.

 

Sorry, I'm just looking at shit from the old internet. 

I was just thinking about this the other day. I started posted on IGN in 2000 and spent most of my days from 2000-2007 posting there. I was a young adult then and am now rapidly approaching 50. It went fast.

5 hours ago, legend said:

 

I'm one of them. I would have loved to get a Tesla before. I held out because in the apartment I lived in before, there would be no place to charge it. Now I have a house and garage where I could charge one, but I will not support Tesla anymore.

My warranty is up on my Model 3 end of next year. I'm interested in testing a Hyundai Ioniq 5. The Tesla has held so much value though, I'm hesitant in other brands for the near future. Will be interesting to see how non Tesla EVs depreciate. 

2 minutes ago, Massdriver said:

Where we disagree is the magnitude of the issues. Being authoritarian and trying to overthrow elections easily overrides my own concerns with Democrats on certain issues. 

That's fair

2 minutes ago, stepee said:

Sucks that Vital is such a shit father and probably threatened their child and verbally abused them to a point they felt they had to say it was a phase. Now his child has to be miserable just because he is a terrible parent, doesn’t seem fair. I hope eventually they cuts ties with him and they are able to live their life free of his failure.

2 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

  

 

But I think it's also possible the therapist would have said that she's not actually trans. Either way, if it was really just a phase, then you did your thing as a parent.

 

Now I'm speaking purely hypothetical, but I know people who were still confused into their 20s about their sexuality and some into their 30s and possibly early 40s about their gender, so I don't know if your daughter is certain it was just a phase or thinks she's convinced now that it was; it could be something she still struggles with but still hasn't come to terms with and doesn't want to articulate to you as of now. But again, I'm talking strictly hypothetical; end of the day, I've never met her, and you're the father, so you know her way better than I ever will, and she's going to talk to you in ways she'd never talk to me. So whether or not that were to happen years from now, I don't know; it could have really been a phase and she was growing and questioning her tastes and wants.

 

In the end, she's an adult now, so hopefully she's processed everything fully and all is good!

 

 

Is there much minors can do without parental consent in the medical world? I honestly don't know.

We'll have to see. She's VERY influenced by others, like we all were at that age. Her identity shifts based on who she had a crush on. She says she's bi and she told me she thought girls would have liked her more as a boy.

I think some states allow abortions without consent with court approval in extreme situations. 

7 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

To go further, California protects people who leave their state to seek hormone treatment. But even California doesn't override parental consent.

 

 

You said no to her and it ended up being a phase for her. Good! Then you did nothing wrong for her and you would have had the same experience in a more progressive state because in those states, minors still need parental consent.

That's true, for now. Do you think it will stay that way? How long till it is considered child abuse to not take your child for gender affirming care? 

There is a market forming around this issue and I don't believe doctors have the best interests of everyone in mind. Many are trying to make a buck. 

1 minute ago, SaysWho? said:

 

It's easier for me to talk to him since I met him. He never struck me as someone who had an axe to grind toward the world, so I don't think he formed his viewpoints due to hatred toward others. Always struck me as old-school Republican thinking a lot of the conservative movement lost its mind, which explains why he never ended up voting for Trump either time, and he eventually switched parties over it IIRC.

 

My guess speaking with him is that the focus on trans in recent years has been very strange and borderline incomprehensible. It probably won't matter if he came around right now since I expect things are gonna be bad in Florida for LGBTQ youth for a while and Republicans are gonna harden control, but I try to remember many people took a while to come around to gays/lesbians and understanding that they're always existed, and I hope the same happens with our trans friends.

Dialogue is the lost art in modern politics! I've always enjoyed people with opposing views as me. Screaming insults is a good way to get people MORE entrenched in their thinking. 

2 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

But the premise is very real as more and more research shows gender exists on a spectrum; sex is simply who you're attracted to. 

 

Research on the Transgender Brain: What You Should Know

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Expanding knowledge of the brain and gender identity

 

 

Your experience is different, and that's okay; she would have needed parental consent anyway to get hormone treatment, which is fully within your right as a parent. Your daughter is a straight woman and that's who she is. I'm also the same straight dude you met 10 years ago.

 

But trans people have existed since forever; it's just now that we're starting to understand it. I used to not "get it,' thinking it makes no sense that someone is another gender, but that I should adopt a "live and let live" mentality where even if I don't get it, I won't get in someone's way about it.

i don't disagree with that. Gender dysphoria has been recognized as a thing for a long time. I don't doubt some people may find relief living as the other gender and should be free to do so. 

I think the evil of the situation is not the trans people themselves, there is a industry forming around this that is pushing for medical and surgical intervention at what I believe is a pre mature stage. In my daughter's case, had I went with the what popular cultural says, I should have taken my daughter to a gender affirming therapist and doctor, gotten her on pills and on the track to transitioning. Had I done that, she'd be dealing with the effects of the hormones right now.

8 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

I hope you come around on trans folk. I've met trans kids who were able to make that transition from middle to high school with few troubles because of a very supportive environment, but how they're being used in culture wars as gay people were in the 80s/90s/00s is heartbreaking for me. I watched as acceptance toward gay people became more mainstream and want the same for trans because it's hard enough when some people think you're a freak for existing.

 

I think many people are anti-trans because they don't know anyone trans or don't realize they know anyone trans. It's so much easier to support when you've met them and know they just want to be themselves.

I won't. I reject the premise, no one can become the opposite sex. My views were shaped by my experience with my daughter. When she was 15 she told me she was "trans", that she wanted to become a boy, dead name, talking about hormones, the whole thing. I told her I understand she's feeling off but I will not refer to her as a boy and there will be no talk of hormones or surgery or anything. When she is 18 she can do whatever she wants. 

She hated me for about a year. Now she's 18 and says that was a phase and she is very thankful I pushed back. Some of her friends had parents who went along with it and they are now dealing with the issues inherient with it. There are many examples of people now in their 20s wondering where the hell the adults were allowing them to get on hormones as teenagers. These people are viewed with hatred from the trans community. 

To be clear, I don't care what adults want to do, my issue is as it pertains to children, specifically teenagers. 

I thought DGH was BeerHam?

Yes my time here will be brief. But I wish everyone here the best going forward. Life is short. I hope everyone finds their little corner of happiness. 

1 minute ago, Spork3245 said:

 

Should wait until Jan 6th 2023

Is it me or did the font on his hat get bigger?

Forums seem to be a dying thing. Every community I'm a part of now, finance, music, etc, is on Discord. Was there ever a push to move this place to Discord?

3 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

Nah, I missed my chance to die a hero. But, I’m still looking for that hill. 

you’re still a pitiable man.

 

I legit feel sorry for you.

Likewise. 

Just now, TUFKAK said:

I’ll take that offer.

 

1k ban both of us my friend. For the trans people who won’t have to read this bigots Bullshit, hill I’m willing to die on.

Stunning, brave.

4 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

Oh the transphobe isn’t important enough to confuse with someone of consequence. He’s nothing, just like the flyover states his kind reside it. But curious he popped up again now.

 

But he’s still here being a bigoted troll.

 

name your price, 500? This community would be better without his kind here.

What he offers I'll double it to ban TUFKAK

2 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said:

I've been in a few Teslas. I don't get it, like, for what you're getting it just doesn't seem worth it? A lot of the materials feel like a cheap rental. I'm interested in electric for sure but I don't get the love for the design.

There were some quality control issues on the Model 3 for a while for sure. However it being worth it is no question. I bought mine in 2019 for $52k. I can sell it today for about the same price. Almost 0 depreciation . Most "luxury" cars rapidly drop in value in the first 2 years. Some of it is supply chain constraints, but this was also the case pre pandemic. 

2 minutes ago, Uaarkson said:

I hope you find AIDS in your blood, loser 

That's pretty homophobic. 

Just now, TUFKAK said:

I find you a pitiable man 

That says more about you than it does me. I hope you find some comfort in life, it's a fun journey. 

6 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

Can we ban this transphobic bigoted dipshit bro?

 

just saddened he didn’t drink himself to death like jigs’ friend did.

 

i refuse to engage with him but I’ll gladly Venmo you to ctrl z his ass

Sounds like you could use trip to the local psych ward. Get help soon. 

2 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Yeah, sure - why not?

 

Might as well get it over with.

 

Scoop: Trump team eyes Nov. 14 announcement to kick off 2024 presidential run

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Allies are blocking off days in their calendars for the week after the midterms.

 

 

Will be interesting to see what happens if they indict him soon afterwards

What was the conclusion of the BeerHam and Tofuturkey saga?