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8 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

Typically with those education benefits, you stay with the firm for a year or two or you reimburse the firm if you depart.  There really is no problem with those agreements as an actual, tangible benefit was received.

Yeah, mine is a year. Seems a good trade.

We have both non compete clauses and exclusivity agreements where I work. I love the idea of disbanding on non competes but understand how the exclusivity isn't the same. For us, they will pay for education such as an MBA but you have to stay x amount of time post diploma. I'm fine with that agreement.

32 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

If exit polls are anything to go by, the Ohio reproductive rights amendment is going to have a larger margin of victory than the Ohio marijuana legalization measure.

I do find this a bit interesting. Not that I disagree that is a more important issue, but seeing how this issues play out. When you can take the constituent out of what we care about and vote independently on the issues it's a much better thing.

I guess I'm weird but 8 billion seems like a small amount for the chain. Maybe it's because subway is everywhere. We lost a lot of food places downtown which are fortunately coming back now, but during the worst of it there were still 4 subways within a couple blocks depending on which direction you wanted to walk.

The fact that this is even news on this big of scale is because of conspiracy ridden posts on TikTok and other sites. This was two weeks ago. Most levels were read at 4 parts per billion on the Ohio river. Don't we have something like 500 - 1000 derailments per year? People didn't report on this because it was a very small town with no environmental reporters in their small news cast. One journalist was charged, later withdrawn, for disorderly conduct during a press conference which caused multiple social media posts to say things like, "what are they hiding", "why am I seeing it here first", etc. Disaster it is, but nothing extreme that would cause you to worry if you use water from any treatment plant on the Ohio river.

So I don't post much, but I've been around these parts for a really long time. I'm 100% on the glad Griner is home train. I think her imprisonment / sentence was ridiculous, even based on Russian law. That said, can someone give me a devil's advocate on this trade? I've seen so much shit like, "only saved because she's a basketball player", "only saved because she is a well known American", "She didn't like America so she deserved it". I disagree with all of that stupid shit I've read, and heard. But the other ear does hear about other Americans in Russian prison for similar crimes that don't get the same grace. Is this just a social justice win for the left? Regardless of actual humanitarian benefits for her.

2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

Jesus Christ almighty

Didn't you know that all planes have been unmanned since the 80's? The pilots you see are just there to assure you'll still get to your destination on time when there is a delay. That part is too hard to automate.

1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

One of the witches from Hocus Pocus comes out as pro-Putin.

I have barely any idea what nonsense was said here, but I'm pretty positive it will be something my parents bring up next time at the dinner table.

I was supposed to go back to the office for the first time on Tuesday. Any return has just been postponed until September. I can't imagine that date holding either. When we do return, I will have absolutely no idea how to behave professionally in a public setting.

1 hour ago, legend said:

 

 

The reason I don't necessarily hold the same opinion for children being able to escape and stay out is because there are developmental factors that cause children to readily accept what's presented to them. Humans are particularly primed for this compared even to other apes. For example, human infants tend to mimic exactly how you show them to do something, even if you do it badly. Whereas young chimps watch what you're trying to do and if you do it badly often improve on what you're doing.

 

I'm not sure the scientific community has settled on why humans are like that (it's hard to prove why behaviors may have evolved), but one of the working ideas is that readily accepting culture can be a way to quickly learn, and since humans in particular are able to continually learn new skills and teach each other, it was advantageous to be developmentally primed to accept what you're taught when you're young. At least that is what psychologists I knew and worked with during my postodc which isn't *that* long ago had conveyed to me.

 

The consequence of that is it may be substantially harder to break out of what you were conditioned into even if you are otherwise cognitively sound and wouldn't have entered into it as an adult.

 

In contrast, if you're already fully developed and adopt such blatantly insane and morally gross ideology, then I would not have any confidence that this isn't an inherent cognitive flaw.

 

 

Also, to be clear, I'm not saying if you were merely brought up and indoctrinated into cult-like beliefs and behaviors that you're fine. I'm saying if you were *and you deliberately left that in your adulthood* I'm more likely to believe that you'll be fine from there on out compared to someone who got themselves involved with Q and then supposedly "escaped."

I think we are coming at this from different angles. I agree that the behavioral susceptibility of a child is much greater than an adult and that humans by nature follow the tribalistic patterns they were born into. What I'm primarily getting at is that a large portion of Q followers have grown up in their social norms where you start with step one and incrementally and gradually reach what we are seeing today. It isn't always, and probably not often a rational, fully developed adult that suddenly reached this ideology as you mentioned. It led to this over a lifetime. The reason why I think that distinction is important is because adults can break out of their lifetime of beliefs. Eg. A parent that always looked down on gay people and found out their son / daughter was gay. There are many examples of terrible beliefs that can and have been shaken from fully developed adults. We should also treat this the same way as opposed to ostracizing them. We can be abhorrent to the idiots, but welcoming to the possibly few that realize their mistakes.

5 hours ago, legend said:

 

 

I think it's probably wrong to use "intelligence" as some singular metric. All evidence shows that there is not some singular dimension of intelligence; consequently, you cannot neatly divide people into the "intelligent" or "stupid" groups. 

 

Nevertheless, I do still maintain that people who go hard into things like Q are inherently deficient in some set of highly critical cognitive functions (even if they are competent in others) and because of that, I would not trust them just because they "escaped" one cult. I would be fully prepared for them to do it again with something else or have the flaw manifest in any number of other ways.

 

 

Also, while I did state this earlier, I want to be perfectly clear: I do think there is a distinction for children who are raised and brainwashed into some belief in particular and then leave that.

As someone that was raised in a very religious / cult like upbringing that is now an atheist, I struggle with your opinion that you can trust a brainwashed child that had their "come to god moment" but cannot do the same with an adult. The psychological impact of being raised a certain way, and constantly being around an echo chamber can last for a lifetime. In your inner circle, it is obvious that you should never go from a seemingly rational, intelligent person and suddenly leap to being a Q follower. From my unfortunate experience with people I love, it is a much slower incremental process. There are incredibly intelligent people that I don't believe have inherently deficient cognitive functions, but have found themselves wrapped up in a lifetime of "truths" that lead to the insanity's that seem absolutely stupid to us. I would allude it to an analogy closer to Stockholm's syndrome. It is not through some deficiency that you fall in love with your captor, and it is not always through some mental deficiency that you can find your self believing in something so bat shit crazy.

That said, some people are definitely just stupid. I just would not want to get to the point where we shame or distrust others because they believed something terrible and then came to their aha moment. It can happen in all degrees of previously poor thought beliefs. Sometimes in your 20's, sometimes in your 60's.

I have no idea why I'm still up to watch this, but also what is the benefit of a 2am est speech by Trump?

4 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

This is part of why that AZ call was premature! Still odds are a Biden hold though.

I wish I could just binge watch this as if it were an episode of the Newsroom in which the newscasters actually felt responsibility for their calls.

4 minutes ago, Chollowa said:

He's down by damn near 700k votes in PA right now. I probably just have no grasp on the numbers, but that seems like it is a problem. 

It is, but still a million votes left to be counted (estimated) in just the counties surrounding Philly area.

As shown in the screen captures above, I love that Twitter finally had immediate tags of misinformation to some of Trump's tweets.

Fox lead team doubling down on the Arizona call saying they are absolutely correct in the call.

Ohio still blue by 300k+ with Cincinnati not reporting yet is positive.

3 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said:

What map are you guys using CNN is broken for me.

I'm bouncing around between ABC, CNN, and BBC News Network.

4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

This board has far too many Cincinnatians 

Hey, we aren't bad people just because we have chili that isn't really chili. 

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

How are people feeling about Ohio given what's in so far?

I hope Hamilton county has a bigger swing blue than 2016. That's where I live.