b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 U.S. economy adds 157,000 jobs in July, slightly below expectationshttps://wapo.st/2na1c60 Decent report given the revisions from the last two months, but wage growth remains poop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I'm genuinely looking forward to the economic analyses in the subsequent years that will document empirically our anecdotal feeling as to the reasons this counter-intuitive situation "theoretical" full employment/anemic wage growth is occurring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Employer mindset 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I know there's a graphic that is frequently shared, showing productivity growth compared to real wage growth since the 1960s or 1970s. Is there a website or calculator that shows you what "you should" be making, if those two had keep in line over that period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Employer mindset What's wrong here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, Jose said: What's wrong here? Working late and on the weekends while letting the boss go home early and then rejecting a raise and taking a pay cut for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I missed the pay cut and pay raise ones, but the others look fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jose said: I missed the pay cut and pay raise ones, but the others look fine. see thread title but you're a real go getter!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Employer mindset Holy shit. Was this made as satire or did someone actually mean it sincerely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Almost all of those suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Working late and on the weekends while letting the boss go home early and then rejecting a raise and taking a pay cut for it. The vacation one is also really bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Do you want some of the money back that you're paying me? What in the actual fuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, legend said: Holy shit. Was this made as satire or did someone actually mean it sincerely? I can’t say for sure but this is the kind of thing I’d expect from a small business tyrant. Based on the reflection, it looks like it’s hanging in an office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Jose done lost his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, RedSoxFan9 said: The vacation one is also really bad I mean I guess this is an office so the culture is different, but as a former restaurant manager, having an employee tell you that surprise! I am going on a vacation in two weeks really is quite annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 So don't wait til 2 weeks to tell your boss about your trip? That's not even what the sign is saying, anyway. My husband works in an office environment and he thought most of it was insulting and ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 lol. it's hanging in Jose office! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 People shouldn't take vacations. It's more important that they work every day for their boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 For once I'd like to hear an employer say: All those extra hours you put in... we're gonna pay you for those! Life seems to have gotten so expensive in this city. So were going to provide you with a raise to at least help slightly with the rise in the cost of living We were wrong, we're sorry Good job folks. Take the rest of the day off. We met out project deadline! This year the holiday party won't be doing drink tickets. Just help yourselves! You've worked hard around the clock. Thank you for your hard work and dedication! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: People shouldn't take vacations. It's more important that they work every day for their boss. Especially when the boss needs to go down to a 3 day work week to get to the cottage each week during the summer. Do you know how bad the traffic is if you have to leave during the weekend. Golf tee times are also better during the weekdays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Captain Pickle said: For once I'd like to hear an employer say: All those extra hours you put in... we're gonna pay you for those! Life seems to have gotten so expensive in this city. So were going to provide you with a raise to at least help slightly with the rise in the cost of living We were wrong, we're sorry Good job folks. Take the rest of the day off. We met out project deadline! This year the holiday party won't be doing drink tickets. Just help yourselves! You've worked hard around the clock. Thank you for your hard work and dedication! What's a holiday party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Good employees leave bad bosses. I'd say thays the bigger problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: What's a holiday party? yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 con'd Those weekly meetings. Yeah, we'll only do them once a month, if that. Lets be honest, theyre a complete was of everyone's fucking time the threat of layoffs is over. Our accounting department realized that upper management was being drastically overpaid so they'll take a paycut so everyone keeps their jobs!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I haven't taken a "real" vacation since 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I took two real vacations last year and plan to negotiate for a third week of vacation next time my contract comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, Captain Pickle said: This year the holiday party won't be doing drink tickets. Just help yourselves! I care for my employees and don’t want to see them die, so... hard pass on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I'll take my vacation time whenever the hell I please thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Working late and on the weekends while letting the boss go home early and then rejecting a raise and taking a pay cut for it. You know, maybe the boss had to leave early because of a prescheduled tee time? You're kind of inconsiderate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 35 minutes ago, Captain Pickle said: For once I'd like to hear an employer say: All those extra hours you put in... we're gonna pay you for those! Life seems to have gotten so expensive in this city. So were going to provide you with a raise to at least help slightly with the rise in the cost of living We were wrong, we're sorry Good job folks. Take the rest of the day off. We met out project deadline! This year the holiday party won't be doing drink tickets. Just help yourselves! You've worked hard around the clock. Thank you for your hard work and dedication! I've always been of the opinion that there should be no such thing as an exempt employee. If you work more than 40 hours, you get overtime. Doesn't even matter if you are salary, or management, or executive level. It would probably do a lot to curb excessive work hours of salaried employees that is mandated up upper management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: I took two real vacations last year and plan to negotiate for a third week of vacation next time my contract comes up. That...is not very much vacation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 35 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: That...is not very much vacation. Yeah, seriously. The minimum standard here is three weeks, with the next legal minimum being four weeks after 10 years, and five weeks after 15, I think. And Canada still sucks compared to most European countries! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: Yeah, seriously. The minimum standard here is three weeks, with the next legal minimum being four weeks after 10 years, and five weeks after 15, I think. And Canada still sucks compared to most European countries! I get 4 weeks and that's not counting sick and holidays. What we don't have is anything like shutting down the office for a week in December despite knowing full well that everyone is going to be gone, which kind of pushes you into using you vacation then to at least piggy back off the holidays they put in. Although what annoys me more is that they give us the day after Thanksgiving but don't give us anything between New Year's Day and Memorial Day, I'd rather have to burn a vacation day the day after Thanksgiving in exchange for having a long weekend where everyone stops working. (Not really trying to gripe though, I know I have it pretty good by American standards.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Basically I like that Europe will do a week or even a month where whole companies just stop. A lot of vacation is great but if you have to use it while everyone else keeps working it can become a bit of a double-edged sword, which can affect your ability to enjoy your time off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I get five weeks of PTO plus holidays, and we shut down between Christmas and New Years. But, all my PTO is in one pot (sick days are not separate) and days don’t roll over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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