GameDadGrant Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 8:11 PM, Brick said: No. Just no. I know you love Nintendo, and I do too, but the Switch can barely keep up with the Xbox One and PS4, and you're basically saying it's the same generation as Xbox Series X and PS5? Just no. Stop. No. Well, technically is the PS5/Series X joined the Switch’s generation. Generation = era of *when* hardware is released. Not what the hardware specs are. Dude, you knew that! C’mon now! Also, apparently Japan is really looking forward to this game! A Japanese Company Has Made Monster Hunter Rise Launch Day an Official Holiday - IGN WWW.IGN.COM A Japanese company saw so many employees booking the day of Monster Hunter Rise's launch off of work that it's giving all its employees the day off instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, GameDadGrant said: Well, technically is the PS5/Series X joined the Switch’s generation. Generation = era of *when* hardware is released. Not what the hardware specs are. Dude, you knew that! C’mon now! Also, apparently Japan is really looking forward to this game! A Japanese Company Has Made Monster Hunter Rise Launch Day an Official Holiday - IGN WWW.IGN.COM A Japanese company saw so many employees booking the day of Monster Hunter Rise's launch off of work that it's giving all its employees the day off instead. On Nintendo's side, the Wii U and Switch are different generations, but overall within the whole console ecosystem, they're the same generation. Wii U launched in the same generational window as the PS4 and Xbox One, but flopped in part because it was underpowered, so Nintendo did a do-over with the Switch which is also the same generation as the PS4 and Xbox One, and while still underpowered, it's portability features is helping it not to be a flop. Nintendo had two eighth generation consoles. The ninth generation is currently the PS5, Xbox Series, and then whatever the successor to the Switch is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, Brick said: On Nintendo's side, the Wii U and Switch are different generations, but overall within the whole console ecosystem, they're the same generation. Wii U launched in the same generational window as the PS4 and Xbox One, but flopped in part because it was underpowered, so Nintendo did a do-over with the Switch which is also the same generation as the PS4 and Xbox One, and while still underpowered, it's portability features is helping it not to be a flop. Nintendo had two eighth generation consoles. The ninth generation is currently the PS5, Xbox Series, and then whatever the successor to the Switch is. Look man, I get what you're saying, but if one thing fails and you make the next thing, that's the next generation. Whatever MS or Sony is doing has no impact on this being Nintendo's next generation after the Wii U. Time isn't a factor at all, really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Eighth generation of video game consoles - Wikipedia EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Quote The eighth generation of video game consoles began in 2012, and consists of four home video game consoles: the Wii U released in 2012, the PlayStation 4 family in 2013, the Xbox One family in 2013, and the Nintendo Switch in 2017. 35 minutes ago, Brick said: On Nintendo's side, the Wii U and Switch are different generations, but overall within the whole console ecosystem, they're the same generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 @Brick Ah, Wikipedia. What generation was the Wii? That system was underpowered compared to the Sony and Microsoft platforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Ah yes, one console released in 2012, and then the next released 5 years later, but it's still part of the same generation because... uhh... It's more convenient that way, I guess? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 My personal perspective is actually even more different, now that I think about it. I view the Switch more as a successor to the 3DS. Nintendo has just a handheld/portable system on the market now, and no actual home console. That’s just me, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, GameDadGrant said: @Brick Ah, Wikipedia. What generation was the Wii? That system was underpowered compared to the Sony and Microsoft platforms. Seventh. It launched alongside the 360 and PS3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 17 hours ago, Brick said: Seventh. It launched alongside the 360 and PS3. Okay, but now I’m more confused. How is Wii in the same gen as 360/PS3, despite the power difference, but launching a year apart from 360? Wii U is looped in with PS4/XBO but it launched a year’s difference from those and also had a big power difference. But Switch is somehow not a new gen? Pfft. Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, GameDadGrant said: Okay, but now I’m more confused. How is Wii in the same gen as 360/PS3, despite the power difference, but launching a year apart from 360? Wii U is looped in with PS4/XBO but it launched a year’s difference from those and also had a big power difference. But Switch is somehow not a new gen? Pfft. Whatever. Imagine this: Sony and Microsoft brought their consoles out at the same time but Nintendo was LATE in bringing theirs out at the same time so they released a (at the time) current gen console a little over 3 years later. Make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 42 minutes ago, GameDadGrant said: Okay, but now I’m more confused. How is Wii in the same gen as 360/PS3, despite the power difference, but launching a year apart from 360? Wii U is looped in with PS4/XBO but it launched a year’s difference from those and also had a big power difference. But Switch is somehow not a new gen? Pfft. Whatever. Because it's not about power it's about launch times. The Wii, PS3, and 360 were one generation, even though the 360 was a year early than the other two, just like the Gamecube, PS2, and Xbox were the previous generation even with the PS2 launching a year earlier than the other two. The Wii U launched a year ahead of the PS4 and Xbone, but because it failed, Nintendo did a redo and launched the Switch. It's a new generation of Nintendo consoles, yes, but overall still the same generation when grouped with the other consoles. It's weird, and Nintendo certainly made it more confusing by launching a console mid cycle, but it's belongs in the same generation as the PS4 and Xbone. Had the Wii U not been underpowered, and say cost an extra hundred dollars, or maybe even two, to make specs better, and been marketed properly enough to sell better, Nintendo wouldn't have had to come out with a redo in order to stay relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 It doesn't do anyone any good to keep thinking about these consoles in terms of "generations", at least as far as Nintendo is concerned. Playstation and Xbox have spent the last 20 years going head-to-head, releasing new, competing hardware on very similar cycles. Nintendo hasn't been playing that game since the Gamecube, and it's pointless to try to lump them in with the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 It is pretty different and it is easier just to not lump them in. So I’ll just adhere to my opinion that Nintendo just has a handheld on the market now and not a console. Easier that way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Monster Hunter Rise is Missing an Ending at Launch WWW.FANBYTE.COM Monster Hunter Rise won't get its true ending until a future update, and the current endgame feels a little hollow without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Monster Hunter Rise is Missing an Ending at Launch WWW.FANBYTE.COM Monster Hunter Rise won't get its true ending until a future update, and the current endgame feels a little hollow without it. That's what Jason said to a degree on the bombcast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 So...Capcom is essentially shipping an incomplete game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, GameDadGrant said: So...Capcom is essentially shipping an incomplete game? To be fair, Monster Hunter never was a complete game 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Monster Hunter Rise PC: Release date and PC details | PC Gamer WWW.PCGAMER.COM Monster Hunter Rise is confirmed for PC, but we're going to have to wait for it. @Xbob42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Fine by me, not exactly hurting for more Monster Hunter right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: Fine by me, not exactly hurting for more Monster Hunter right now. I’ll let Capcom know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Biggie said: I’ll let Capcom know I was replying to the person who literally mentioned me, but okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: I was replying to the person who literally mentioned me, but okay. Uhhh... I'll let Capcom know? But I'm kind of with you. I only played MHW like maybe halfway, to that water area, my friends refuse to play it with me, they are stuck on Destiny 2 but Monster Hunter is better. Oh well! So what I'm saying is I still have MHW to finish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Uhhh... I'll let Capcom know? But I'm kind of with you. I only played MHW like maybe halfway, to that water area, my friends refuse to play it with me, they are stuck on Destiny 2 but Monster Hunter is better. Oh well! So what I'm saying is I still have MHW to finish. Imagine not playing RISE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Biggie said: Imagine not playing RISE Yeah it would suck not playing it. But I'll be playing it so I don't have to worry about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: Yeah it would suck not playing it. But I'll be playing it so I don't have to worry about it. Good Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 12/17/2020 at 8:42 AM, Slug said: This is the first game I've pre-ordered in maybe 3 years. Even though it doesn't meet my bar for pre-ordering a game, I just got too hyped for it. Love me some MH. How you enjoying it? I like it better than World. It has a nice mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Biggie said: How you enjoying it? I like it better than World. It has a nice mix. So far so so good. I'm really enjoying it. It has a lot of the convenience/QoL improvements from World but has the feel of Gen which I loved. I dig the verticality of the zones. Wirebug feels good. So far the only thing I'm not really digging is the new mount mechanic; it feels clunky when you're riding. I'd prefer a traditional "ride/do damage/big finisher/down" setup, but you can't really pull off any sort of finisher unless you've got a second monster in the area. Other than that I'm having a blast. Oh and also the animation for the wyrmstake cannon on my GL makes it such a pain in the ass to hit; it's too long. But that's a minor gripe. I just have to be super careful when I pick my spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Slug said: So far so so good. I'm really enjoying it. It has a lot of the convenience/QoL improvements from World but has the feel of Gen which I loved. I dig the verticality of the zones. Wirebug feels good. So far the only thing I'm not really digging is the new mount mechanic; it feels clunky when you're riding. I'd prefer a traditional "ride/do damage/big finisher/down" setup, but you can't really pull off any sort of finisher unless you've got a second monster in the area. Other than that I'm having a blast. Oh and also the animation for the wyrmstake cannon on my GL makes it such a pain in the ass to hit; it's too long. But that's a minor gripe. I just have to be super careful when I pick my spots. Only complaint so far for me is Rampage mode. Not a fan of tower defense. But everything else has been spot on and the gameplay loop is addicting as hell. I’m working on 3 star level village quests at the moment and I forged my first complete armor set yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Have either of you fought that winged dick monster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 30 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Have either of you fought that winged dick monster? Every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Have either of you fought that winged dick monster? Good 'ol Khezu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Biggie said: Only complaint so far for me is Rampage mode. Not a fan of tower defense. But everything else has been spot on and the gameplay loop is addicting as hell. I’m working on 3 star level village quests at the moment and I forged my first complete armor set yesterday. I've not been a fan of most of the MH games' "event" fights. I like the rampage/tower defense mode less than just regular hunts, but I like it more than the swimming water dragon thing from Tri or riding on the back of Zora Magdaros for a half hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 6:01 AM, GameDadGrant said: Okay, but now I’m more confused. How is Wii in the same gen as 360/PS3, despite the power difference, but launching a year apart from 360? Wii U is looped in with PS4/XBO but it launched a year’s difference from those and also had a big power difference. But Switch is somehow not a new gen? Pfft. Whatever. PS4, Wii U and XBO are in the same generation. Switch (March 3, 2017) , PS4 Pro (November 2016) and Xbox One X (November 2017) would be a different generation. 3 years later the next generation started with PS5 and Series S/X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: PS4, Wii U and XBO are in the same generation. Switch (March 3, 2017) , PS4 Pro (November 2016) and Xbox One X (November 2017) would be a different generation. 3 years later the next generation started with PS5 and Series S/X. The Pro and One X aren't really next-gen systems though? They were just upgrades. Like, I don't think anyone thought the DSi was a next-gen handheld when it came out, for example. Or that the NEW 3DS was a next gen system and Vita was suddenly last-gen. Switch is a completely different system, not an iterative upgrade to the Wii U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Everyone has their own definitions of things so it doesn’t really matter in terms of what a generation is, but to me a generational leap bare minimum consists of a machine that has games that can no longer run on older hardware (realizing that there is some gray area there as well). I have never heard anyone consider the Pro and Series X to be a new generation lol. At some point I do not give a shit where people slot Nintendo’s stuff in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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