TheLeon Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I'm not familiar with the novel, but I don't know how to describe this movie other than "exhausting". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 My friend enjoyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 It's Charlie Kaufman, I'll be watching it very soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: It's Charlie Kaufman, I'll be watching it very soon! I’ll be interested to hear what you think. While I love some of the early movies he wrote (especially Adaptation), I have a really hard time with the ones he wrote/directed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, TheLeon said: I’ll be interested to hear what you think. While I love some of the early movies he wrote (especially Adaptation), I have a really hard time with the ones he wrote/directed. I actually think Synecdoche, NY and Anomalisa are his most mature, most honest works. I love Being John Malkovich, Adaptation, and Eternal Sunshine more, but I think the former two are saying more and are "better" but the latter three are more entertaining and for slightly bigger mass consumption, since the works are easier and more straightforward to parse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 In the past few years, I’ve accepted that while I’m adventurous enough to try more, uh, “challenging” cinema, my taste is generally mainstream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number305 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, TheLeon said: In the past few years, I’ve accepted that while I’m adventurous enough to try more, uh, “challenging” cinema, my taste is generally mainstream. One of us! One of us! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, TheLeon said: In the past few years, I’ve accepted that while I’m adventurous enough to try more, uh, “challenging” cinema, my taste is generally mainstream. At least you know and you're honest about it! I know I'm on the fringes, and Kaufman is going more and more in that direction as he becomes older and even more sad/irate (rightfully so) at the world. Being John Malkovich almost looks nice and happy by comparison, and that had sad puppetry in it. 1 hour ago, number305 said: One of us! One of us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 After watching Synechdoche boy did I miss those office hours with my psychology and visual arts professors to talk to them about it. I love the blank page/sky's the limit aspect of Kaufman's writing style though and it makes me always look forward to checking out anything he makes, even if I won't be able to understand it, which is definitely where I'm at as of my most recent viewing of SNY. It's about time to revisit it, then see the stop motion one and this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, heydude93 said: After watching Synechdoche boy did I miss those office hours with my psychology and visual arts professors to talk to them about it. I love the blank page/sky's the limit aspect of Kaufman's writing style though and it makes me always look forward to checking out anything he makes, even if I won't be able to understand it, which is definitely where I'm at as of my most recent viewing of SNY. It's about time to revisit it, then see the stop motion one and this. Do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 This is going to take at least a week to recover from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 7 hours ago, heydude93 said: After watching Synechdoche boy did I miss those office hours with my psychology and visual arts professors to talk to them about it. I love the blank page/sky's the limit aspect of Kaufman's writing style though and it makes me always look forward to checking out anything he makes, even if I won't be able to understand it, which is definitely where I'm at as of my most recent viewing of SNY. It's about time to revisit it, then see the stop motion one and this. One thing I loved about Synechdoche was how gradual the escalation was and how well the movie taught you to understand it and prepared you to follow its further deviations into the metaphysical. This is also a worthwhile video series if you want to get into the minutiae of the movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I have an irrational hatred for Being John Malkovich. I have no idea why. It's to the point that I can't stand Jonh Malkovich in anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Moa said: One thing I loved about Synechdoche was how gradual the escalation was and how well the movie taught you to understand it and prepared you to follow its further deviations into the metaphysical. This is also a worthwhile video series if you want to get into the minutiae of the movie. Yes, accurate on all points, I agree, and videos like those on Kaufman are so good, and illuminating. He writes such dense, such good stuff. I mean: 2 hours ago, Iculus said: I have an irrational hatred for Being John Malkovich. I have no idea why. It's to the point that I can't stand Jonh Malkovich in anything. Do you not like nice things?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Eternal Sunshine is up there with my favorite movies but I've never seen any of these others minus Being John Malkovich. Will give this a shot since it's on Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Iculus said: I have an irrational hatred for Being John Malkovich. I have no idea why. It's to the point that I can't stand Jonh Malkovich in anything. What about The Sheltering Sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I should also mention, as people often forget, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, George Clooney's directorial debut, is a Charlie Kaufman solely written joint. His script was compromised and Kaufman doesn't speak much on the final product, only having said that "Clooney ran off with it" but despite whatever that's all about, the movie is quite good and definitely written by Kaufman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I should also mention, as people often forget, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, George Clooney's directorial debut, is a Charlie Kaufman solely written joint. His script was compromised and Kaufman doesn't speak much on the final product, only having said that "Clooney ran off with it" but despite whatever that's all about, the movie is quite good and definitely written by Kaufman. It's a weird watch with Adaptation, considering both came out in the same year. I'm curious if anyone here has read i'm thinking about ending things, since apparently this movie is an adaptation as well. My impression based off the wikipedia article is that the movie was not particularly faithful, or I completely missed much of what was going on in the movie. I also have to read Kaufman's novel Antkind now. 1 hour ago, Greatoneshere said: This scene was unique for Kaufman as it concisely summarizes the main point of the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Moa said: It's a weird watch with Adaptation, considering both came out in the same year. I'm curious if anyone here has read i'm thinking about ending things, since apparently this movie is an adaptation as well. My impression based off the wikipedia article is that the movie was not particularly faithful, or I completely missed much of what was going on in the movie. I also have to read Kaufman's novel Antkind now. This scene was unique for Kaufman as it concisely summarizes the main point of the movie. I have not read the book it is based on, unfortunately. But yeah, I love that scene, but it is rare for him to so concisely summarize something, but it was so well done and emotional. He probably had it for anyone who was getting lost by that point in the movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I absolutely loved this. Did I understand all of it? Absolutely not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjomesphat Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I haven't seen Anomalisa, but I've loved every other Kaufman project. Malkovich, Sunshine, and Synechdoche are masterpieces. I love trying to follow and keep ahead of Synechdoche only to eventually shut your mind off and just let it sweep you away. However, after thinking about this movie for the past week, I don't think I enjoyed it at all, tbh. The premise is actually pretty straightforward, but I feel like parts to make it cohesive were stripped away to make it obtuse, because of..... reasons? I dunno, it just kind of felt pointless to make it more complex than it needed to be. I'm all for challenging films and making things more metaphorical and interpretive, but I just don't think there was that much here to necessitate that. The dinner scene was clearly the best part, and the whole film should have mostly centered around the family's interactions, imo. There was also a lot of pretentious monologues, that, like I said, felt pretentious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 After thinking about this movie more I'd love to see Kaufman make an "actual" horror movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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