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2 minutes ago, stepee said:

 

I’m glad Nvidia is doing it the way they are since apparently it can slow some games down, and I imagine now unless there is some weird reason this should be in most big upcoming games that could actually use it.

 

And yeah, I suppose it doesn’t even hurt nvidia to allow whatever supports it, they don’t make desktop cpu’s. 


What’s with the pcie4 support on z490 motherboards though? I mean, it’s cool this works, but in regards to anything else isn’t z490 dead going forward? It seems like stuff that will never have a use unless I missed something.

YEah, PCIe4.0 on the Z490 is a "barely" situation, where it works but the CPU doesn't increase total available PCIe lanes, so if you add one too many NVME drives, it can take away lanes for either your GPU or one of those drives. Starting with Rocket Lake, this won't be an issue because all future CPU chipset lan controls will go up a few lanes. We live in a time of duct tape and half measures my friend! :p

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In addition to the Radeon RX 6700 XT unveil, AMD also announced that is bringing Smart Access Memory (Resizable Bar) technology to its Ryzen 3000 Desktop CPUs based on Zen 2 cores. This is great news for a large majority of PC users who are running Matisse CPUs and the extra boost in performance thanks […]

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14 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said:

I saw Resize Bar in my bios already.

 

Weird though the bios can't be updated from the internet directly anymore though.

Who is the manufacturer of your motherboard? Several of them have moved to a desktop app to support the update from the web feature. 

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So exactly what part does this make more efficient as far as is this gain on the gpu end or the cpu end? So if you are off 10% in gpu power and this is doing it’s thing are you getting that gain or are you bottlenecked by cpu still?

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43 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

Who is the manufacturer of your motherboard? Several of them have moved to a desktop app to support the update from the web feature. 

 

Asus

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So my issues with using an app rather than doing stuff from BIOS is that every time I update my bios the configuration gets messed up and I have to fix it. If I do it through an app while windows is running is everything going to go haywire after it updates?

 

2. The app doesn't work, it shows a black screen (so no worries I guess!)

 

3. If I enable Resize Bar it says I have to disable CSM, but my computer will only boot with CSM enabled.

That being said I enabled resize bar and enabled CSM and the computer booted, things seem fine but hard to say if I'm getting any benefit or harmful effects from doing this. :p

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6 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said:

@Mr.Vic20

So my issues with using an app rather than doing stuff from BIOS is that every time I update my bios the configuration gets messed up and I have to fix it. If I do it through an app while windows is running is everything going to go haywire after it updates?

 

2. The app doesn't work, it shows a black screen (so no worries I guess!)

 

3. If I enable Resize Bar it says I have to disable CSM, but my computer will only boot with CSM enabled.

That being said I enabled resize bar and enabled CSM and the computer booted, things seem fine but hard to say if I'm getting any benefit or harmful effects from doing this. :p

Which GPU do you have? 

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58 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

Which GPU do you have? 

 

I read up on this. It says to use the app you need ASUS control interface V2. ASUS System Control Interface comes pre-installed (I guess you cannot install it) if you see the black screen you have no control interface and cannot use the app feature.

 

Further reading says that resize bar only benefits 3000 series cards and I only have the 2080ti so even if I turn it on I won't see a benefit. (?)

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GO GET IT BOYS:

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-30-series-resizable-bar-support/

 

Go ahead and literally download your extra performance!

 

Note to pay attention to the instructions, you need to update your motherboard bios, graphics card bios, and get the new nvidia driver. You also have to enable it in your motherboard. At least I had to.

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Oh yeah, I’m feeling this boost in Cyberpunk. I want to say a 5fps or so boost, which essentially just moved it to 60. Still dips especially while driving but vrr takes care of that now so I guess I should go back to playing it soon.

 

Only 17 supported games now I believe but they covered most stuff that needs it.

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29 minutes ago, stepee said:

Oh yeah, I’m feeling this boost in Cyberpunk. I want to say a 5fps or so boost, which essentially just moved it to 60. Still dips especially while driving but vrr takes care of that now so I guess I should go back to playing it soon.

 

Only 17 supported games now I believe but they covered most stuff that needs it.

 

Can you post some pics of what Cyberpunk looks like on your computer?

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1 hour ago, best3444 said:

 

Can you post some pics of what Cyberpunk looks like on your computer?

 

honestly I tried just now and it was way too much work

 

i did one and that's all you get cuz im mad I got distracted and also the hdr makes it look weird idk how u do it right

 

20210330180715-1.jpg

 

 

edit: oh jesus it made it like 360p wtf EVER

 

DRIVE.GOOGLE.COM

 

There’s an older off screen video I made I hope that’s ENOUGH for you

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12 hours ago, stepee said:

 

honestly I tried just now and it was way too much work

 

i did one and that's all you get cuz im mad I got distracted and also the hdr makes it look weird idk how u do it right

 

20210330180715-1.jpg

 

 

edit: oh jesus it made it like 360p wtf EVER

 

DRIVE.GOOGLE.COM

 

There’s an older off screen video I made I hope that’s ENOUGH for you

 

Thank you! The vid gave me a good idea of how much better it looks than on console. Especially on my Xbox one x. More NPC'S, vehicles, better lighting, and maybe some ray tracing in that vid as well.

 

Glad you have a great setup man.  👍 

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So even though as far as I could see from Vizio 120hz 4k vrr is coming in a later update (though it’s confusing) it actually seems to be working fine after I set 4:4:4 10bit instead of 4:4:4 12 bit. 
 

Only problem is or tears like crazy at 42fps, and only at 42fps. I tried locking frames and everything seemed fine until I lock to 42fps and freaks out which is causing the random tear I noticed when testing in pendulum.

 

Its not a big deal if that’s how it has to be since I’m not anticipating a bunch of drops to exactly 42fps, but it’s strange. Anyone encounter anything like this with gsync and/or know what this is exactly causing it?

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12 hours ago, stepee said:

So even though as far as I could see from Vizio 120hz 4k vrr is coming in a later update (though it’s confusing) it actually seems to be working fine after I set 4:4:4 10bit instead of 4:4:4 12 bit. 
 

Only problem is or tears like crazy at 42fps, and only at 42fps. I tried locking frames and everything seemed fine until I lock to 42fps and freaks out which is causing the random tear I noticed when testing in pendulum.

 

Its not a big deal if that’s how it has to be since I’m not anticipating a bunch of drops to exactly 42fps, but it’s strange. Anyone encounter anything like this with gsync and/or know what this is exactly causing it?


VRR only holds to a certain fps pending the TV/monitor. It’s likely off (if it’s even on at all) once you hit 42fps.

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3 hours ago, Spork3245 said:


VRR only holds to a certain fps pending the TV/monitor. It’s likely off (if it’s even on at all) once you hit 42fps.

 

It’s not that exactly I’m using the pendulum demo to test so I know it’s working (see gsync on overlay in game, can tell by locking random frames along vrr range which is 48-120 for me) - it’s not like a regular tear if I lock there it just practically shakes, it’s not 41fps, 43fps, only 42fps. It’s the compensation it does at that point is breaking or something, but ONLY 42fps.

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34 minutes ago, stepee said:

 

It’s not that exactly I’m using the pendulum demo to test so I know it’s working (see gsync on overlay in game, can tell by locking random frames along vrr range which is 48-120 for me) - it’s not like a regular tear if I lock there it just practically shakes, it’s not 41fps, 43fps, only 42fps. It’s the compensation it does at that point is breaking or something, but ONLY 42fps.

 

Oh probably should mention that the issue at 42fps also only happens at 120hz. 60hz with vrr/gsync on and this issue doesn’t happen.

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26 minutes ago, MeatAndPotatoes said:

im giving up. i got the 3080 FE from BB in my cart last friday. I immediately clicked checkout, and my cart was empty. Fuck it all

One of my friends got one by just going to the store at the right time. On the internet, bots just buy them all within seconds. I get stock drop alerts for 3070s and they're always gone within seconds.

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2 hours ago, Fizzzzle said:

One of my friends got one by just going to the store at the right time. On the internet, bots just buy them all within seconds. I get stock drop alerts for 3070s and they're always gone within seconds.

 

Same goes for the xsx and ps5. Best bet is to go into gamestop and ask when they expect shipments and snag one that way. 

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my 1080 will have to keep chugging along for another year I guess. I'm only running in 1080p though and have been playing less graphically intense games lately so no screaming need to upgrade.

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Okay so I checked all the frames from like 30-120 now and besides 42fps the screen also tears at exactly 84fps. I believe how gsync works is that it actually doubles frames that are out of range on 120hz. So I could it kinda makes sense that the other fps I have an issue with is exactly double the 42fps.

 

I wonder if it could have something to do with 42-120 being a common range and my tv being 48 as the cut off and it thinks my cut off is 42 so it’s tried to switch to double the frame there but it’s already being doubled? Lol idk, what is it!

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1 hour ago, stepee said:

Okay so I checked all the frames from like 30-120 now and besides 42fps the screen also tears at exactly 84fps. I believe how gsync works is that it actually doubles frames that are out of range on 120hz. So I could it kinda makes sense that the other fps I have an issue with is exactly double the 42fps.

 

I wonder if it could have something to do with 42-120 being a common range and my tv being 48 as the cut off and it thinks my cut off is 42 so it’s tried to switch to double the frame there but it’s already being doubled? Lol idk, what is it!

 

It's something with your TV, not GSYNC. I get no tearing with GSYNC enabled at any framerate which GSYNC is still enabled at. PG27UQ.

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7 minutes ago, Spork3245 said:

 

It's something with your TV, not GSYNC. I get no tearing with GSYNC enabled at any framerate which GSYNC is still enabled at. PG27UQ.

 

Yeah, I figure it’s something with the tv 100% (it’s not officially supported even as far as I can see) but just wanted to see if anyone ever experienced that exact problem or knew what the cause of it was so I could try to troubleshoot. 

 

Sounds like it’s indeed some unique glitch with the tv I probably need wait for the firmware update for.

 

When not testing it just means under a very special circumstance I might catch a slight tear since it’s only those random ass frames, it’s unlikely to even be noticed. Maybe I should just enjoy all this stuff finally. :P

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Also having 120hz vrr is amazing though, definitely at least as exciting as a big graphics card update in terms of the improvements you see.

 

Its really great for sports games like Madden, which I didn’t think about. Because the frames jump all over the fucking place outside of the actual plays themselves, which makes sense with the format, and now it all looks smooth and it’s kinda crazy watching it look way better than any broadcast of sports.

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I’m going to ease in to talking about how great 120fps is here though, because I realize I severely underestimated it and have been downplaying it for years!

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6 hours ago, stepee said:

I’m going to ease in to talking about how great 120fps is here though, because I realize I severely underestimated it and have been downplaying it for years!

 

Man....I'm still happy with 30 fps and you're playing in glorious 120fps! I'm a chump, though. 

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