SaysWho? Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Fuck yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 That was way closer than it should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Ghost_MH said: That was way closer than it should have been. 4 hours ago, Jason said: My friend in Mass. pointed out that Kennedy will probably try for the special election if Warren gets a cabinet position. I think the margin was part of his point. 55.5-45.5 is a pretty bad loss in modern politics but will probably be enough that Kennedy can tell himself "well, that was against an incumbent, the Kennedy name may get me farther when I'm not up against an incumbent". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 So maybe these two will face off some time. Also, that Democratic primary in the fourth congressional district is SUPER close. Jesse Mermell 27,925 votes 22.4% Jake Auchincloss 27,820 votes 22.3% Becky Grossman 21,839 votes 17.5% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Jason said: I think the margin was part of his point. 55.5-45.5 is a pretty bad loss in modern politics but will probably be enough that Kennedy can tell himself "well, that was against an incumbent, the Kennedy name may get me farther when I'm not up against an incumbent". That's what bugs me. He got 45.5 against a popular incumbent on nothing but his name. That means this won't be the last of him, which is just great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 I'm this close to kicking all your asses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: I'm this close to kicking all your asses. (sorry I had to) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 If voters of the same state reject you for both Senate seats (assuming this is how it ends in November), you should probably quit politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberon Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: If voters of the same state reject you for both Senate seats (assuming this is how it ends in November), you should probably quit politics. or you go all out and go for GOVERNOR just you wait it's going to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Oberon said: or you go all out and go for GOVERNOR just you wait it's going to happen McSally's not that talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: McSally's not that talented. Won't stop Kennedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Jason said: Won't stop Kennedy. On 9/2/2020 at 8:25 AM, SaysWho? said: I'm this close to kicking all your asses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Nixon was robbed in 1960. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: Nixon was robbed in 1960. I wonder if he would have ended up as paranoid if he won in 1960? History would prove to be very different if he was president from 1960-68. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: I wonder if he would have ended up as paranoid if he won in 1960? History would prove to be very different if he was president from 1960-68. Nixon was always a crook I also doubt we would have had Medicare or any of the civil rights/voting rights/etc bills if Nixon is president Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Nixon was always a crook I also doubt we would have had Medicare or any of the civil rights/voting rights/etc bills if Nixon is president Maybe. Maybe not. Nixon was in many cases a populist. If he knew that something like civil rights or medicare were winning positions in the 64 election, he'd likely support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Oh god imagine Nixon in charge during the Cuban Missile Crisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Nixon was always a crook I also doubt we would have had Medicare or any of the civil rights/voting rights/etc bills if Nixon is president Yup. LBJ made it a mission to complete the civil rights legislation that Kennedy introduced in a message to the country. We "like" Nixon because he lived to do shit like the EPA, but his Southern Strategy shit continues to reverberate in crappy ways two decades into the 21st century. His associates like Roger Stone continues to be pieces of shit. We wouldn't have gotten civil rights legislation, full stop. JFK is easily superior to Nixon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 It took the civil rights act and voting rights act (in addition to a liberal SCOTUS) to fully realize the southern strategy reaction and the breaking of the democratic solid South. The ascending conservative wing of the GOP really took off in response to these civil rights items and the fracturing of the new deal coalition. The GOP in the 50's, of which Nixon was the (relative, to Eisenhower) conservative VP, actually pushed for civil rights laws! So looking at a Nixon post 64 election without the lens of the party realignment that happened due to the largely southern, largely conservative response to civil rights is kinda guesswork. But Nixon knew how to win, and he knew the republican party. So hard to tell how it would all shake out in an alternative timeline where JFK isn't murdered, and conservatives don't completely dominate the republican party building from Goldwater and Reagan in the 64 contest. Maybe conservatives run Goldwater as a primary challenge in 64, and that pushes Nixon right? Who knows. At best we'd get an even more watered down version of Medicare and civil/voting rights acts because the Goldwater criticisms of Eisenhower, "dime store New Deal", would be just as true to a moderate Nixon who won in 1960/governed from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 GOP still has a lot of room to fall on the state level this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 Thom Tillis' reelection campaign is in hot water after his staff's idiotic reaction to a constituent. Quote "You’re saying that, if you can’t afford it, you don’t get to have it, and that includes health care?" "Yeah, just like if I want to go to the store and buy a new dress shirt. If I can’t afford that dress shirt, I don’t get to get it." "But health care is something that people need, especially if they have cancer." "Well, you got to find a way to get it." That's not paraphrasing. That was the conversation. Also, he's linked to the postmaster scandal. He was a major beneficiary of DeJoy's shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 Former Democratic senator, vice presidential nominee Lieberman endorses Collins Quote Lieberman, now an independent, also will be featured in an advertisement paid for by the Republican Jewish Coalition, NBC News reported Wednesday. “I’m a lifelong Democrat but I put my country first, always. That’s why I’m supporting Susan Collins for Senate,” he says in the ad, referring to Collins as “a fighter for women’s issues.” Lieberman was a Democratic senator from Connecticut for three terms – and ran as Al Gore’s running mate in 2000 – but unenrolled after he lost a 2006 primary. He then ran as an independent and won a 4th Senate term before retiring in 2012. Collins has always touted her Senate relationships, so the endorsement isn’t a huge surprise. Lieberman endorsed Republican John McCain for president in 2008. Quote Among women under the age of 50, just 27 percent favored Collins, compared to 55 percent for Gideon. I'm reminded of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 What a turd lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 If this dumb shit answer costs the Senate just lol this country is so fucking dumb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 Collins wouldn't say who she'll vote for president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Collins wouldn't say who she'll vote for president. What a colossal tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 McSally got her best poll in a while, down only.... 7 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Oh look another the Democrats pushing yet another military veteran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 She's gonna lose anyway, but Chuck and nancy certainly have a type for red districts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: She's gonna lose anyway, but Chuck and nancy certainly have a type for red districts The fact that they insist on repeatedly hammering their heads against the wall with these veteran candidates despite their poor success rate is just...ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 There's nothing inherently wrong with military veterans running for office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: There's nothing inherently wrong with military veterans running for office. No but they keep trying to run carbon copies of the same exact template over and over again. It's like they're intentionally trying to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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