b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 That's my partial list for next summer with the family for a road trip. Where would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Which is? Idaho or South Dakota? Just need to get an idea of your general route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Which is? Idaho or South Dakota? Just need to get an idea of your general route. I've talked my wife into driving to Seattle/portland/somewhere in the PNW then flying back. I just have to plan it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Â All sunning. Â Nobody wants to see Idaho's dick man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 One of my plans long-term is to take the long-haul Amtrak routes from Chicago to Seattle (across the northern plains) and then down to San Francisco. Get a sleeper cabin and make a few stops along the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 52 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Â When you live in the west the Dakotas aren't that impressive. And now I know you've never been to Idaho. Â I traveled through North Idaho to get to Montana from Washington, and North Idaho was gorgeous. It was weird though that there were just four radio stations, two of which seemed to be the same rock station and two which were Christian rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Summer of 2019 I went to Seattle, road tripped to Montana, went back and saw a bit of Tacoma but really explored downtown Seattle, then went to Portland. Â Every place was great. Rode through Spokane, saw amber waves of fucking grain through Washington, I was in bloody heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I've talked my wife into driving to Seattle/portland/somewhere in the PNW then flying back. I just have to plan it  Oh hell yeah. I'm originally from the Seattle area. If I remember correctly you're in VA right now and are originally from Ohio so I'm sure you've seen everything worth seeing that's east of the Mississippi. Here's some general routes you can take once you get west depending on which route you take to get there. Exploring anything in the boxes would be worth your time. Obviously, you'll need to deviate from the Interstate to really get into some of these. (The boxes all shifted a tiny bit for some reason in all directions once I saved this but the main idea is still there)   Red route: If you head from VA through Arkansas you can catch the Ouachita National Forest. It's pretty enough. Maybe you've been there already. Then you have to suffer through an infinite scream of bottomless boredom through Oklahoma to get to the northern bit of New Mexico. If you're an outdoorsy person it's one of the greatest areas in general for hiking and scenic views. It's got tons of pretty green and red mountains. Most picture New Mexico as this brown desert nothingness but I found that's really only true in Albuquerque (which is still an awesome city). Santa Fe is one of the most unique cities of its size in the country, too. Very 'southwest'. And it's probably worth checking out Los Alamos as well (where they developed the A-bomb primarily). There are still like Federal govt checkpoints on the border of the city asking what your business is; it's weird. But it's pretty. Then from there head into Northern Arizona and southern Utah and that is the most stunning red desert you'll ever see. Lots of layered red cliffs and hills. From there you can swing by Las Vegas (but I wouldn't stay) and see The Valley of Fire and/or The Hoover Dam (sounds lame, actually really pretty surroundings and fucking cool marvel of engineering). Then onto a lot of plane jane Nevada which is still mostly pretty the further north you go. From there into NOCAL where you can hit up like four national forests in as many hours if you're in a hurry (including the famous Redwoods National Forest). And from there into the true PNW starting in Oregon and up to Washington if you want. The Cascades, man. Mt. St. Helens. Mt. Baker. It's all gold. Everything is pretty in the PNW.  Blue route: Infinite scream of fathomless boredom through Kansas or Nebraska and into Colorado. Get past Denver into the Rocky Mountains. They go on forever and are just incredible. That will carry you into mid Utah where you can catch a bit of the aforementioned red desert but also hit up State Route 12 where you can see Grand Staircase/Escalante, Capitol Reef National Forest, and the Henry Mountains. You'll see tons and tons of incredible rock formations. Some of which you'll even drive through. From there northward towards Salt Lake City. You can come see my house which is famous for its many dogs and guitars and okay looking lawn. But seriously in the small vertical blue box in northern Utah you can zigzag through several different canyons as you head northward. Even the ugliest one, which is only like a mile from my house, is still admired for its beauty. The most stunning one would be The Cache National Forest one, however. It actually reminds me of the PNW. From there you have to go to north to Yellowstone. Even if you've already been. I mean, it's the most famous National Park for a reason. Leaving Yellowstone you'll see the prettiest parts of Montana. Just absolutely stunning vistas. I feel like every truck commercial ever made where it's driving down a infinitely long straight road with an awesome mountain at the end must have been filmed in Montana. Because there is loads of that. I know you're going during the summer but it is especially pretty in a snowy winter. If you head this route you'll be forced through northern Idaho. And, yeah, it is pretty (I really just absolutely fucking loathe southern Idaho tbh; lived there for a bit. Miserable). The thing with this area though is that the times I've gone through it with my wife I've been nervous because it's full of those militia live-on-a-compound and/or polygamist types. From there into the Seattle area and the mountain range I mentioned in the red route at the end.  Purple route: I used to live in Detroit and I went through the upper peninsula of Michigan into Wisconsin and Minnesota once. I remember that being pretty. I've been to MI, MN, and WI relatively recently but it's been years since I've been through the UP. So that might be worth taking towards the purple route? I don't know. Otherwise you'll probably go through Chicago and then Iowa (infinite scream, etc.) which I'm sure you've seen a million times since you're from the Midwest. But you are right about South Dakota and the Black Hills. Really the whole southern part of the state reminds me of a scene you'd see in a typical western movie. Which is cool. After you get out of the Black Hills you can see some state and national parks/monuments in northeast Wyoming. Devil's Tower is fucking awesome. You'll then be in southeast Montana. I've done tons of camping there. I can't say there's a lot of neat things to see on the drive through that area though. From there you'll join the blue route at Yellowstone.  I didn't hit everything or all the options. But if you hit the blue route in any form let me know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 43 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Â I traveled through North Idaho to get to Montana from Washington, and North Idaho was gorgeous. It was weird though that there were just four radio stations, two of which seemed to be the same rock station and two which were Christian rock. Â Heh. I actually conceded this in my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said:  Oh hell yeah. I'm originally from the Seattle area. If I remember correctly you're in VA right now and are originally from Ohio so I'm sure you've seen everything worth seeing that's east of the Mississippi. Here's some general routes you can take once you get west depending on which route you take to get there. Exploring anything in the boxes would be worth your time. Obviously, you'll need to deviate from the Interstate to really get into some of these. (The boxes all shifted a tiny bit for some reason in all directions once I saved this but the main idea is still there)   Red route: If you head from VA through Arkansas you can catch the Ouachita National Forest. It's pretty enough. Maybe you've been there already. Then you have to suffer through an infinite scream of bottomless boredom through Oklahoma to get to the northern bit of New Mexico. If you're an outdoorsy person it's one of the greatest areas in general for hiking and scenic views. It's got tons of pretty green and red mountains. Most picture New Mexico as this brown desert nothingness but I found that's really only true in Albuquerque (which is still an awesome city). Santa Fe is one of the most unique cities of its size in the country, too. Very 'southwest'. And it's probably worth checking out Los Alamos as well (where they developed the A-bomb primarily). There are still like Federal govt checkpoints on the border of the city asking what your business is; it's weird. But it's pretty. Then from there head into Northern Arizona and southern Utah and that is the most stunning red desert you'll ever see. Lots of layered red cliffs and hills. From there you can swing by Las Vegas (but I wouldn't stay) and see The Valley of Fire and/or The Hoover Dam (sounds lame, actually really pretty surroundings and fucking cool marvel of engineering). Then onto a lot of plane jane Nevada which is still mostly pretty the further north you go. From there into NOCAL where you can hit up like four national forests in as many hours if you're in a hurry (including the famous Redwoods National Forest). And from there into the true PNW starting in Oregon and up to Washington if you want. The Cascades, man. Mt. St. Helens. Mt. Baker. It's all gold. Everything is pretty in the PNW.  Blue route: Infinite scream of fathomless boredom through Kansas or Nebraska and into Colorado. Get past Denver into the Rocky Mountains. They go on forever and are just incredible. That will carry you into mid Utah where you can catch a bit of the aforementioned red desert but also hit up State Route 12 where you can see Grand Staircase/Escalante, Capitol Reef National Forest, and the Henry Mountains. You'll see tons and tons of incredible rock formations. Some of which you'll even drive through. From there northward towards Salt Lake City. You can come see my house which is famous for its many dogs and guitars and okay looking lawn. But seriously in the small vertical blue box in northern Utah you can zigzag through several different canyons as you head northward. Even the ugliest one, which is only like a mile from my house, is still admired for its beauty. The most stunning one would be The Cache National Forest one, however. It actually reminds me of the PNW. From there you have to go to north to Yellowstone. Even if you've already been. I mean, it's the most famous National Park for a reason. Leaving Yellowstone you'll see the prettiest parts of Montana. Just absolutely stunning vistas. I feel like every truck commercial ever made where it's driving down a infinitely long straight road with an awesome mountain at the end must have been filmed in Montana. Because there is loads of that. I know you're going during the summer but it is especially pretty in a snowy winter. If you head this route you'll be forced through northern Idaho. And, yeah, it is pretty (I really just absolutely fucking loathe southern Idaho tbh; lived there for a bit. Miserable). The thing with this area though is that the times I've gone through it with my wife I've been nervous because it's full of those militia live-on-a-compound and/or polygamist types. From there into the Seattle area and the mountain range I mentioned in the red route at the end.  Purple route: I used to live in Detroit and I went through the upper peninsula of Michigan into Wisconsin and Minnesota once. I remember that being pretty. I've been to MI, MN, and WI relatively recently but it's been years since I've been through the UP. So that might be worth taking towards the purple route? I don't know. Otherwise you'll probably go through Chicago and then Iowa (infinite scream, etc.) which I'm sure you've seen a million times since you're from the Midwest. But you are right about South Dakota and the Black Hills. Really the whole southern part of the state reminds me of a scene you'd see in a typical western movie. Which is cool. After you get out of the Black Hills you can see some state and national parks/monuments in northeast Wyoming. Devil's Tower is fucking awesome. You'll then be in southeast Montana. I've done tons of camping there. I can't say there's a lot of neat things to see on the drive through that area though. From there you'll join the blue route at Yellowstone.  I didn't hit everything or all the options. But if you hit the blue route in any form let me know. Yeah I think something like the blue route would be what we do. My wife has friends in Denver we could see that way. Ill have to keep this in mind! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 The PNW is the most beautiful place on earth. Everyone should visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Ossof from the top rope! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 How likely is a majority Senate flip at this point? What Republicans are likely to lose their seats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Democrats are favored but it's not a lock. Â Maine, North Carolina, Arizona, Colorado are the places Democrats are polling best in. Â Iowa has been surprisingly good for Dems, as has the Georgia seat Perdue has. Â Kansas, Montana, Alaska, South Carolina, the Georgia seat are all very competitive. Â Mississippi, Texas are longer shots but doable if the night is really good for Dems. Â Alabama is the most endangered seat for Dems, whereas Michigan is a longshot for Republicans but still doable if it's a poor night for Dems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: How likely is a majority Senate flip at this point? What Republicans are likely to lose their seats? Â It's "likely" but far from certain. Â I'm fairly certain that AZ (McSally) and CO (Gardner) will flip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Ossof from the top rope! Â Kind of curious how he responds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said:  Kind of curious how he responds. "Socialist. Nancy Pelosi. Freedom. AOC. Guns, guns, GUNS!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: Â It's "likely" but far from certain. Â I'm fairly certain that AZ (McSally) and CO (Gardner) will flip. Â I'd add Maine to that list, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Maine has showed consistent small leads for the Democrat but big leads in the second choice part (they have ranked choice voting), so my guess is Collins is going to lose. Â The big thing is that the rest of the races are all relatively close, so you could presumably have a decent Republican night or a Democratic sweep depending on which was the margin of error is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Democrats are favored but it's not a lock. Â Maine, North Carolina, Arizona, Colorado are the places Democrats are polling best in. Â Iowa has been surprisingly good for Dems, as has the Georgia seat Perdue has. Â Kansas, Montana, Alaska, South Carolina, the Georgia seat are all very competitive. Â Mississippi, Texas are longer shots but doable if the night is really good for Dems. Â Alabama is the most endangered seat for Dems, whereas Michigan is a longshot for Republicans but still doable if it's a poor night for Dems. Â I really want Graham out. So, SO badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 For real. I’m not letting myself get my hopes up, but Lindsey Graham losing would feel incredibly sweet. Almost as sweet as a Trump loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I'm expecting South Carolina to be represented by two Black Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 11 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Ossof from the top rope! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Anathema- said: I'm expecting South Carolina to be represented by two Black Americans.  I wouldn't expect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 That cooper number is a way way outlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 20 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Â Â Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 On Twitter alone, his attack on Perdue was viewed 12.5 million times, never mind FB/Youtube and all local news, I'm sure. Â I'm happy to say when I lived in Georgia in 2014, I voted for Nunn over Perdue. I tried to stop him. Â Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: On Twitter alone, his attack on Perdue was viewed 12.5 million times, never mind FB/Youtube and all local news, I'm sure. Â I'm happy to say when I lived in Georgia in 2014, I voted for Nunn over Perdue. I tried to stop him. Â Â Â Dude, isn't that sick? I've been sharing the video to everyone I know to up the views lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: On Twitter alone, his attack on Perdue was viewed 12.5 million times, never mind FB/Youtube and all local news, I'm sure. Â I'm happy to say when I lived in Georgia in 2014, I voted for Nunn over Perdue. I tried to stop him. Â Â Wow, I think I just saw my first snuff film because Perdue was straight up murdered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: That cooper number is a way way outlier It might be a tad high, but hes popular and is going to crush the guy hes running against considering its a toss up state, hes been up double digits in most polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 7 hours ago, DPCyric said:     Perdue is such a piece of shit. I did my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 18 hours ago, SaysWho? said: On Twitter alone, his attack on Perdue was viewed 12.5 million times, never mind FB/Youtube and all local news, I'm sure. Â I'm happy to say when I lived in Georgia in 2014, I voted for Nunn over Perdue. I tried to stop him. Â Â Â I thought slavery was illegal in this country, because I'm pretty sure it's a crime to own somebody like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, marioandsonic said: Â I thought slavery was illegal in this country, because I'm pretty sure it's a crime to own somebody like this. Except for punishment of a crime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 These 2 got 6% in the poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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