Sony PlayStation 5 OT - Play Has No Limits, update: financial report indicates no major first-party/exclusive PS5 releases prior to end of March 2025, PS5 in "latter half" of console cycle

[Keyser_Soze]

5 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

If Sony were smart, they'd start pushing hard for their own version of Xbox Game Pass, and start day and date releasing all their games on PS5 and PC at the same time. They already beat Microsoft in the "closed hardware OS console for your TV" space, now it's time to beat them on PC instead of getting complacent. Those who want a PS5 are gonna buy one regardless of the fact that everything will also be on PC. They should release their full back catalog of all games on Steam/PS Now, etc., and go from there. 

 

As I said in that other thread they aren't going to do this. Jim Ryan said AAA games cost to much to make to do a game pass thing.

[skillzdadirecta]

6 hours ago, ManUtdRedDevils said:

PS5 is a surefire hit, but Sony's broken promises are eroding trust

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What broken promises? 

[Greatoneshere]

1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

As I said in that other thread they aren't going to do this. Jim Ryan said AAA games cost to much to make to do a game pass thing.

 

Yeah, that's why I'm worried. It's not too expensive for Microsoft, so I suppose they'll ultimately "win" then.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Chris- said:

Men with disposable income simply cannot be helped from wanting to buy something they don't know anything about and don't know when they can actually buy it. 

Shots fired!

 

and I’ve been struck 😬

[crispy4000]

 

[atom631]

so will there be another around of pre-order allocations or is that it? 

[SaysWho?]

I have two preorders (Amazon Germany and Wal-Mart), mostly because I went to Amazon international since that site ran like butter the first night of preorders.

 

Wal-Mart I got yesterday. I'm not doing it for scalping; basically, Wal-Mart will replace Germany, or Best Buy will replace both if I can snag one from there. I've never preordered a console, but it was actually strangely easy for me once the sites worked decently.

[Mr.Vic20]

1 hour ago, atom631 said:

so will there be another around of pre-order allocations or is that it? 

I would expect more before launch!  There are usually duplicate sales and no shows as well, so there will be more opportunity if history is any measure. 

[Brian]

Godfall for $70? 

 

 

Godfall (PS5) is up for preorder at Best Buy ($69.99/ $89.99 Deluxe/ $99.99 Ascended Edition) https://t.co/Tn2jiLyneX pic.twitter.com/Uqzah1h0mu

— Wario64 (@Wario64) September 18, 2020

[JPDunks4]

4 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said:

Godfall for $70? 

 

 

 

Destruction All Stars is $70.

 

They know people are desperate for next gen games.

 

I figured it'd be a $40 tops.

[Mercury33]

22 minutes ago, JPDunks4 said:

 

Destruction All Stars is $70.

 

They know people are desperate for next gen games.

 

I figured it'd be a $40 tops.

I honestly don’t mind the price jump. It’s been like 15 years since the last one. So the Godfall price is fine. But yeah I was def not expecting DA to be full price. But then again I know very little about it haha

[nublood]

Godfall looks much better now than it a couple months ago. Of course, the studio has let Sony handle most of the advertising and gameplay video now, so there’s that. It still looks like a glorified mobile game but I’m still intrigued. And the fact that the developers champion the fact of “NO micro transactions, and if you want it, it’s in the game day one”... yea. I can get behind that. 

[JPDunks4]

1 hour ago, Mercury33 said:

I honestly don’t mind the price jump. It’s been like 15 years since the last one. So the Godfall price is fine. But yeah I was def not expecting DA to be full price. But then again I know very little about it haha

 

This is true, I have no idea how big of a game it is.  It just strikes me as the type of game that is typically free2play but sells skins and what not, so I'm really curious about what it's all about now that it's a full $70.

[skillzdadirecta]

What abut Godfall says free to play exactly? How is it different than the other loot games out there, Anthem, Destiny, The DIvision etc.

[Keyser_Soze]

6 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

What abut Godfall says free to play exactly? How is it different than the other loot games out there, Anthem, Destiny, The DIvision etc.

 

It's from Gearbox, makers of acclaimed other game Battleborn, that should have also been free to play.

[crispy4000]

We’ve come so far from multiplayer games ‘looking F2P’ in the past few years.  It’s been sliced all different ways.

[skillzdadirecta]

4 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

It's from Gearbox, makers of acclaimed other game Battleborn, that should have also been free to play.

Borderlands? That doesn't count? Should that have been free to play too? I am so out of touch with gamers today.

[number305]

So are multi platform games going to be $70 for ps5 and $60 for XSX? 

[skillzdadirecta]

7 minutes ago, crispy4000 said:

We’ve come so far from multiplayer games ‘looking F2P’ in the past few years.  It’s been sliced all different ways.

Yeah I have no idea what it even means anymore. 

[JPDunks4]

19 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

What abut Godfall says free to play exactly? How is it different than the other loot games out there, Anthem, Destiny, The DIvision etc.

 

I was talking about Destruction All Stars, not Godfall.

 

My bad for not clarifying. 

[Keyser_Soze]

6 minutes ago, number305 said:

So are multi platform games going to be $70 for ps5 and $60 for XSX? 

 

No. They will be $70 for PS5 and included with game pass for XSX.

[skillzdadirecta]

Just now, JPDunks4 said:

 

I was talking about Destruction All Stars, not Godfall.

 

My bad for not clarifying. 

Oh my bad... I have no idea what Destruction All Stars is 

[Brian]

This looks like Euro jank but without the Euro. If you think you can price all games for $70 and expect them to sell, power to you. I don’t see it.

[Keyser_Soze]

1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Oh my bad... I have no idea what Destruction All Stars is 

 

It's that destruction derby game that looks like rocket league and you can get out of your car. It was in the Sony Presentation the one 2 presentations ago, the one with the cat game. Also it was in the sizzle reel at the beginning of the presentation on Wednesday.

[JPDunks4]

And the reason I see Destruction All Stars as a F2P is it looks like the type a multiplayer only type of game that could have Seasonal Passes, Skins, ect.  

 

Not that it'd need to be F2P, but a $30/$40 price would make more sense based on what little we've seen of it.  But as Merc pointed out, we really don't know much about it, so who knows what else it has to justify a $70 price tag.  

[Keyser_Soze]

1 minute ago, JPDunks4 said:

And the reason I see Destruction All Stars as a F2P is it looks like the type a multiplayer only type of game that could have Seasonal Passes, Skins, ect.  

 

Not that it'd need to be F2P, but a $30/$40 price would make more sense based on what little we've seen of it.  But as Merc pointed out, we really don't know much about it, so who knows what else it has to justify a $70 price tag.  

 

It should be F2P because @skillzdadirecta doesn't even remember it exists.

[crispy4000]

Have we even seen gameplay of it yet?

[JPDunks4]

3 minutes ago, crispy4000 said:

Have we even seen gameplay of it yet?

 

Sorta

[crispy4000]

40 minutes ago, JPDunks4 said:

Sorta

 

There needs to be an extended cut for this to illustrate the appeal beyond a conceptual level.  I don't like the marketing.
 

53 minutes ago, JPDunks4 said:

And the reason I see Destruction All Stars as a F2P is it looks like the type a multiplayer only type of game that could have Seasonal Passes, Skins, ect.  

 

Not that it'd need to be F2P, but a $30/$40 price would make more sense based on what little we've seen of it.  But as Merc pointed out, we really don't know much about it, so who knows what else it has to justify a $70 price tag.  

Ironic to say after all the AAA multiplayer-centric, full-price retail games we've seen this gen riddled with those same micro-transactions.

I think it's more that any new multiplayer IP has something to prove if it's going retail.

[Dodger]

I’m going to get a lot of mileage out of games pass next gen.

[JPDunks4]

17 minutes ago, crispy4000 said:

 

There needs to be an extended cut for this to illustrate the appeal beyond a conceptual level.  I don't like the marketing.
 

Ironic to say after all the AAA multiplayer-centric, full-price retail games we've seen this gen riddled with those same micro-transactions.

I think it's more that any new multiplayer IP has something to prove if it's going retail.

 

Such as?  I know CoD:MW has Season Passes and skins, but also has Warzone which is F2P.

 

Gears 5 I know was guilty of selling skins, but not sure they did the Season Pass thing.  I also do think multiplayer only vs a game with a fairly robust Single Player Campaign and other modes is worth noting. I have heard the new CoDs campaign is fantastic.

 

Other than that most of the more recent bigger multiplayer games I can think of have been F2P I think.  Spellbreak just launched as F2P, Ubisofts BR Hyperscape was F2P.  Apex Legends obviously.  Valorant is F2P.  Fortnite the behemoth that it is F2P.

 

I am having a hard time thinking of too many big Multiplayer centric games that also have Season Passes and Skins,ect.

 

 

[crispy4000]

21 minutes ago, JPDunks4 said:

I am having a hard time thinking of too many big Multiplayer centric games that also have Season Passes and Skins,ect.

  

Any current-gen CoD really, Division 1 & 2, Rainbow Six Seige, Avengers, For Honor, Mortal Kombat 11, PUBG, Fallout 76?, Overwatch (with lootboxes), etc.  They're everywhere.

[Keyser_Soze]

I have good news for you. There is a great game recently released, you can play it for countless hours and not have to worry about a battle pass and it's included on game pass.

 

It's called Crusader Kings III - Play it now, thank me later!

[JPDunks4]

25 minutes ago, crispy4000 said:

  

Any current-gen CoD really, Division 1 & 2, Rainbow Six Seige, Avengers, For Honor, Mortal Kombat 11, PUBG, Fallout 76?, Overwatch (with lootboxes), etc.  They're everywhere.

 

Some of those have pretty robust campaigns and other content, and aren't just multiplayer centric games.  A few of them have also been updated with free content for years and years after launch.

 

CoD has probably been the most egregious though, but that's Activision for you.  This new MW is the first time they don't have map packs and shit you need to buy.

 

 

[crispy4000]

20 minutes ago, JPDunks4 said:

Some of those have pretty robust campaigns and other content, and aren't just multiplayer centric games.  A few of them have also been updated with free content for years and years after launch.

 

CoD has probably been the most egregious though, but that's Activision for you.  This new MW is the first time they don't have map packs and shit you need to buy.

CoD (typically) has a more robust single-player focused campaign than the rest I mentioned.  And free content doesn't negate battle passes if they're still sold.

In summary: This is all fairly commonplace with multiplayer-centric games.  F2P, upscale indie, AAA retail ... the battle pass is still the monetization method of choice now that lootboxes have been shunned.  Every corner of the industry is dug in now.