Jason Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 ITS ALL FOR JUST $12BILLION OF SAVINGS IN A $1.9TRILLION BILL WHAT A BUNCH OF FUCKING IDIOTS HDJDOWBXUDUE SV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 We're fucked. I mean, I'm still getting my check, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, marioandsonic said: We're fucked. I mean, I'm still getting my check, but still. uh this is stupid and shitty but it's hardly the end of the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: uh this is stupid and shitty but it's hardly the end of the world. It's totally needless and stupid, but it's very minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, Joe said: It's totally needless and stupid, but it's very minor. As long as you aren't too concerned with the political future of Mark Kelly or The Senator Reverend Warnock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: uh this is stupid and shitty but it's hardly the end of the world. I think it is more illustrative of the boundaries of big tent party control. They will chip away at the edges for no good reason. Minor overall here, but easy to see this same thing play out in more meaningful ways down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 46 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Shooting themselves in the dick to save pennies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Joe said: It's totally needless and stupid, but it's very minor. It's needlessly proving the Republicans right on "so nothing Democrats". People who have had this as their direct personal experience with Democrats won't need to be convinced of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: As long as you aren't too concerned with the political future of Mark Kelly or The Senator Reverend Warnock You really think this will hurt their re-election prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joe said: You really think this will hurt their re-election prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Joe said: You really think this will hurt their re-election prospects? Maybe? There's a lot going on in the next year but they both won their elections by fewer than 100k votes, and in an environment of increased voter suppression in these two states plus the historical likelihood of voters turning against the incumbent president's party in midterm elections makes their jobs hard enough. And that's without making their reelections harder by potentially alienating moderate, relatively higher income urban and suburban voters who vote at higher rates than lower income voters of all stripes who will remember, rightly or wrongly, the they got a check from Republicans/Trump and didn't get one from Democrats/Biden Do the popular thing and legally bribe the electorate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Maybe? There's a lot going on in the next year but they both won their elections by fewer than 100k votes, and in an environment of increased voter suppression in these two states plus the historical likelihood of voters turning against the incumbent president's party in midterm elections makes their jobs hard enough. And that's without making their reelections harder by potentially alienating moderate, relatively higher income urban and suburban voters who vote at higher rates than lower income voters of all stripes who will remember, rightly or wrongly, the they got a check from Republicans/Trump and didn't get one from Democrats/Biden Assuming they actually get the minimum wage bill based before midterms, this will be quickly forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Joe said: You really think this will hurt their re-election prospects? Yes. And the Dems control of both the House and WH in 2022 and 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Joe said: Assuming they actually get the minimum wage bill based before midterms, this will be quickly forgotten. OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, marioandsonic said: OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I mean if this is in line with your other predictions, we are in good shape! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Thing is, people like us are the only ones aware of these kinds of shenanigans. The average voter is not following these developments and won’t have a significant change of opinion anyway until the money is in their accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joe said: Assuming they actually get the minimum wage bill based before midterms, this will be quickly forgotten. I seriously doubt they will. If minimum wage is incidental to the budget and can't be included in reconciliation (the tax break nonsense is a joke) then it is the same for a lower minimum wage which manchin allegedly supports. And I'm writing this in stone: the filibuster isn't going anywhere and isn't going to change. The monthly child tax credit might be good, but right now it's only a one year thing and would run out before 2022 elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, Uaarkson said: Thing is, people like us are the only ones aware of these kinds of shenanigans. The average voter is not following these developments and won’t have a significant change of opinion anyway until the money is in their accounts. Leftists on Twitter are going to do their best to make sure this is a big deal as best they can, but not that many people read Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Joe said: Leftists on Twitter are going to do their best to make sure this is a big deal as best they can, but not that many people read Twitter. It's an unforced error of the dumbest kind and is effectively a tax increase on middle class households (since it is claimed for whatever reason that below 250k annual is middle class) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: It's an unforced error of the dumbest kind and is effectively a tax increase on middle class households (since it is claimed for whatever reason that below 250k annual is middle class) I'm not happy about it. It's a stupid concession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: Thing is, people like us are the only ones aware of these kinds of shenanigans. The average voter is not following these developments and won’t have a significant change of opinion anyway until the money is in their accounts. The people who don't follow things closely are going to be wondering where the fuck their check is and why the Democrats lied about it to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jason said: People who saw ads like this who qualified for at least some of the $600 are going to be wondering where the fuck their check is when they hear about their friends getting their checks. All they're going to care about is feeling misled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 hey at least they didnt go with the cut off at 50k like was rumored. 2022 is already lost for them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 What's the actual number of people that this will affect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If you're a single parent with one kid and you make $80k your stimulus just went from ~$2500 to $0. It's much worse if you have more kids! A single parent with one kid is a "head of household" which cuts off at $112-$120k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, Joe said: What's the actual number of people that this will affect? As I posted above, 12 million adults and 5 million kids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: As I posted above, 12 million adults and 5 million kids Welp, bye bye 12 million votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberon Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Fucking idiots Literally stupider than republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 My reddit conversation on this has devolved into accusing me of virtue signaling and actually just being upset that this nudges me below the eligibility line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jason said: My reddit conversation on this has devolved into accusing me of virtue signaling and actually just being upset that this nudges me below the eligibility line. Reddit should be destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Reddit should be destroyed. sup vlad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Joe said: sup vlad I don’t get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Reddit should be destroyed. I'm pretty sure the person accusing me of that is some big brained centrist Democrat type too who's trying to defend this, not a rightwing shitlord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, Jason said: I'm pretty sure the person accusing me of that is some big brained centrist Democrat type too who's trying to defend this, not a rightwing shitlord. Tell them they hate frontline nurses who risked their lives and the best you can do is a bait and switch Just go full troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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