b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 Wyden unveils $500 million bill to fix state unemployment computer systems - The Washington Post WWW.WASHINGTONPOST.COM The new proposal chiefly takes aim at the network of complex, dated patchwork of state systems that left many cash-starved families last year waiting weeks to receive their first checks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 thanks financial advice guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: thanks financial advice guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Yeah Ramsey is speaking out of both sides of his mouth here. I listen to him occasionally, and he does give sound financial advice much of the time. But his statement on Fox News is idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: thanks financial advice guy. So 50%+ of America is screwed, mostly because of GOP policy, and we shouldn't help them because their own policies ruined the country. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: thanks financial advice guy. It's super infuriating to constantly see people punch down on poor people, many of whom are poor families. Like, yep, everything is their own fault, they all love being poor. Jesus Christ it's like the words systemic and institutional got lost somewhere for them. I would love for them to meet a genuinely poor but hard working family, and look at them, their kids, etc. and go: "you all clearly have other issues going on", the implication being its all their own faults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 45 minutes ago, Jason said: This was my first thought, as well. Even before the pandemic we had disturbing studies that showed something around half the country couldn't take a hit from an unexpected $500 expense. So even under this faulty premise I don't think it holds up. It also seems like the nirvana fallacy of "we can't do everything, so do nothing". However, the funny thing is he is kind of making the argument for more stimulus. Right, buddy! After the expenses incurred by the past year 1,400 isn't nearlu enough to help people. I agree with Baldy McGeneric White Guy, it should be a lot more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 I have some friends and family that think of Dave Ramsey as financial gospel, and every time I've tried to listen to him, he sounds like thee dumbest person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Ramsey's program works. I don't really like the insistence on avoid debt completely, as debt is often a means to greater financial reward, but it does work. But the guy himself has a way about him that is beyond off putting, and all the financial advisors who get Financial Peace certified carry that same air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: It's super infuriating to constantly see people punch down on poor people, many of whom are poor families. Like, yep, everything is their own fault, they all love being poor. Jesus Christ it's like the words systemic and institutional got lost somewhere for them. I would love for them to meet a genuinely poor but hard working family, and look at them, their kids, etc. and go: "you all clearly have other issues going on", the implication being its all their own faults. Many people on the right-wing do not believe that problems can exist institutionally or systemically. They believe that the root (and cause) of all problems are individual/personal issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Many people on the right-wing do not believe that problems can exist institutionally or systemically. They believe that the root (and cause) of all problems are individual/personal issues. Indeed, many conservatives I've run into in my life, from my parents to co-workers to acquantinces and friends of friends, simply look baffled when I explain that issues are systemic and institutional more often than not. They . . . just can't process it. It's kind of stunning, and no amount of explaining on my part helped matters. I don't get what they think those words are used for then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Wow, this is pretty spot on 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 On 2/11/2021 at 12:32 PM, b_m_b_m_b_m said: thanks financial advice guy. He nearly gets the point before swerving off a cliff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Unity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Lmao give them nothing and passed it on a bipartisan basis lmao Only elect long term senators as president Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Didn't know where to stick this. Congress hasn’t raised the minimum wage... - Senator Mitt Romney | Facebook M.FACEBOOK.COM Congress hasn’t raised the minimum wage in more than a decade, leaving millions of Americans struggling to make ends meet. I’m introducing a bill with Senator Tom Cotton that would... Not that the bill is ideal or anything but is he outflanking Democrats from the left again? Or, at least the ones who insist on it being a reconciliation Bill because reasons when they know they could ram it through if they really wanted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Didn't know where to stick this. Congress hasn’t raised the minimum wage... - Senator Mitt Romney | Facebook M.FACEBOOK.COM Congress hasn’t raised the minimum wage in more than a decade, leaving millions of Americans struggling to make ends meet. I’m introducing a bill with Senator Tom Cotton that would... Not that the bill is ideal or anything but is he outflanking Democrats from the left again? Or, at least the ones who insist on it being a reconciliation Bill because reasons when they know they could ram it through if they really wanted? I think all this means is he's doing his job and taking a priority of the presidents and trying to negotiate from his side instead of doing whatever the fuck McConnell does. From what i can find hes aiming at 10 dollars an hour then hitching it to inflation, Dems should see it as the floor for negotiations on a separate bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 The floor is 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The floor is 15 ten years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 8 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The floor is 15 Not if its going to require 60 votes it isn't, until that changes states are going to have to keep going up on their own, as it is even this bill probably doesn't get 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Not if its going to require 60 votes it isn't, until that changes states are going to have to keep going up on their own, as it is even this bill probably doesn't get 60. They're lieing to say it won't pass reconciliation rules, it absolutely does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I find this point odd because I don’t know anybody who went to college and borrowed money to do so who exited school with less than 20k, and most of these people went to state schools. Some are closer to 40k from little public unis like Stephen F Austin. Are these people way outside the norm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Public service loan forgiveness is a fucking scam. My wife, a teacher, has apparently only had about 10 qualifying monthly payments despite paying her loans as a teacher for the past 8 years. She'd have tens of thousands more in loans if she didn't work as a math teacher at a Title 1 school for 5 years. That "only" required her to submit a few pages of paperwork signed by her principal. If she was a early childhood or art or social studies teacher she wouldn't have gotten as much forgiveness, like those people don't need loan forgiveness as well. It's all fucking stupid. The only people who don't need loans are the wealthy. Damn near every other person needs them anymore, even to a not terribly selective state school. Just raise taxes and pay for all public colleges and universities. Just forgive all the student debt because the money was created out of thin air anyway, and getting rid of it would be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 And not everyone who goes to an elite school is rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jason said: And not everyone who goes to an elite school is rich. And not everyone goes to an elite school either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 yo momma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Biden thinks the Senate Parliamentarian will block the $15 minimum wage. Quote When Joe Biden met with a group of mayors and governors last week he bluntly told them to get ready for a legislative defeat: his proposed minimum wage hike was unlikely to happen, he said, at least in the near term. “I really want this in there but it just doesn't look like we can do it because of reconciliation,” Biden told the group, according to a person in the room. “I’m not going to give up. But right now, we have to prepare for this not making it.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Biden thinks the Senate Parliamentarian will block the $15 minimum wage. Missed this, but it's full on bullshit. That said, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Missed this, but it's full on bullshit. That said, I figured. I think what sucks is it'll be exciting once this passes because there's a lot of good in this thing, but because it won't take effect until late March, it wouldn't matter if they passed and signed it today AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I suppose people who refinanced their student loans would be SOL if any type of forgiveness happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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