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Breaking: US and Taliban sign peace agreement, withdrawal of all NATO forces within 14 months contingent upon Taliban compliance

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What We, the Taliban, Want by Sirajuddin Haqqani

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We did not choose our war with the foreign coalition led by the United States. We were forced to defend ourselves. The withdrawal of foreign forces has been our first and foremost demand. That we today stand at the threshold of a peace agreement with the United States is no small milestone.

 

For reference, he is the head of the infamous "Haqqani network" which operated with the support of Pakistan's ISI (and previously the CIA :p)

 

Also, this op-ed has ticked off the NYT's senior correspondent in Afghanistan:

 

 

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"We did not choose our war", uh yeah you kind of did when you decided to fly airplanes into buildings killing 3000 people. 

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1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

They sheltered and partly supplied those that did though. 

 

Absolutely!  I just thought it was important to make the distinction between AQ and the Taliban.

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8 minutes ago, Reputator said:

I guess we negotiate with terrorists. That's news to me.

That’s only referring to governments not paying out money to hostage takers. 

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27 minutes ago, Reputator said:

I guess we negotiate with terrorists. That's news to me.

 

18 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

That’s only referring to governments not paying out money to hostage takers. 

 

Both of these things should be on the table unless circumstances dictate that they are not worth it. 

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There are real and substantive differences between negotiating with the Taliban -- a group that does have "legitimacy" among a not-insignificant portion of the Afghan population -- and negotiating with groups like al-Qaeda and the Islamic State.

 

I would compare this with the Good Friday Peace Accords between the UK government and the IRA -- an ostensibly "terrorist group" that had legitimacy among the Catholic population in Northern Ireland -- which ended "The Troubles" after 30 years and over 3,000 lives lost.

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After his “deal” with North Korea, I’m surprised that there isn’t more skepticism in this thread. But yeah, cool, if it sticks then this is undoubtedly a good thing. IF is a bit word here, however.

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In his Coronavirus press conference just now, President Trump said he would soon be meeting with the Taliban leaders. 

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3 hours ago, CayceG said:

 

 

Both of these things should be on the table unless circumstances dictate that they are not worth it. 


The creation of that policy, and it was effectively the policy of the entire western world, was that paying ransoms actually increased the number of hijackings and hostage situations because governments just kept paying and they had nearly unlimited resources to do so. When the global community agreed to stop paying ransoms, the number of hostage situations decreased dramatically.

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3 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said:

Sounds like a job for the CIA. Let’s get an Afghan president that will play ball. 

 

Maybe the Afghan president would have been willing to play ball if we'd bothered to invite him to the negotiations about the war happening in his own country.

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Maybe the Afghan president would have been willing to play ball if we'd bothered to invite him to the negotiations about the war happening in his own country.

 

He can't say no if he's not there.

 

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On 2/29/2020 at 8:51 AM, SFLUFAN said:

I would compare this with the Good Friday Peace Accords between the UK government and the IRA -- an ostensibly "terrorist group" that had legitimacy among the Catholic population in Northern Ireland -- which ended "The Troubles" after 30 years and over 3,000 lives lost.

 

This aged well.

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