Spork3245 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, Paperclyp said: I was trying to make it clear that I understood that turn based doesn’t mean paused combat. Again, like I said, KOTOR is absolutely turned based as described. But what I’m saying is that the term “turn based” came to mean a specific (yet somewhat ambiguous) thing, and calling KOTOR a turn based RPG doesn’t really meet those parameters. That is what you’re seeing in this thread - people who have adopted that term to mean something specific in their minds and then seeing it applied to something that it doesn’t match up for. Well, the fact that I said “keep it turn-based” should have clued those people in unless they never played KOTOR or a pre-Mass Effect BioWare game before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 19 hours ago, Brick said: I'd rather have KOTOR X KOTOR 3-9 happened already in the Star Wars The Old Republic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Well, the fact that I said “keep it turn-based” should have clued those people in unless they never played KOTOR or a pre-Mass Effect BioWare game before You weren’t the only one who called it turn based though, I wasn’t trying to single anyone out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I still need to play the second one, but KOTOR 1 was one of the first games I replayed immediately upon beating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, BlueAngel said: I tried last week but it doesn't play well with Windows 10 at all the game just crashed. Unfortunately my RX480 doesn't have any kind of legacy support for windows beyond 7 so I may throw a 7 install on my other drive that has a linux install on it and hope it works on there otherwise I need to get this rig I found on the street working but I don't have any old GPU's laying around so I would have to find an older card for it or find my 8800GT. Would be nice to have a legacy rig for situations like this. That's weird, it worked just fine with my Windows 10? I played it on my main monster rig and it worked perfectly, weird. Let me know exactly what the problem is, I can't remember if I did anything after I installed it on Steam to get it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaethos Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BlueAngel said: I tried last week but it doesn't play well with Windows 10 at all the game just crashed. Unfortunately my RX480 doesn't have any kind of legacy support for windows beyond 7 so I may throw a 7 install on my other drive that has a linux install on it and hope it works on there otherwise I need to get this rig I found on the street working but I don't have any old GPU's laying around so I would have to find an older card for it or find my 8800GT. Would be nice to have a legacy rig for situations like this. This reddit page may help. It has a bunch of mods to make the game more playable on modern hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 hours ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: KOTOR 3-9 happened already in the Star Wars The Old Republic. Ehhh not really the same, especially since that's an MMO, and a proper KOTOR III would be single player focused. I guess I also wouldn't mind a complete reboot though either. Start the series over, but now be canon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I own this game on every platform and never played it so I’m super excited for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 They should just make it look like The Old Republic and play like it and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Brick said: Ehhh not really the same, especially since that's an MMO, and a proper KOTOR III would be single player focused. Have you played it? If you ignore the MMO parts it's very KOTOR. The story is very robust for all the classes. You go on quests. I mean you can even solo it if you so choose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: Have you played it? If you ignore the MMO parts it's very KOTOR. The story is very robust for all the classes. You go on quests. I mean you can even solo it if you so choose. I have not, but with it being an MMO wouldn't a lot of it be focused on multiplayer stuff? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Spork3245 said: “Turn-based” doesn’t mean “paused”. There’s an internal and unseen dice-roll happening with each action, characters wait for the roll (ie: their turn) before attempting the action. In an action RPG, a dice roll may still occur but it’s caused and controlled by the player and is usually limited to damage amounts as dodging/aim is based on hit detection. There are multiple kinds of turn-based combat, tactical (ie: FF7, Grandia), real-time (pretty much all pre-Mass Effect BioWare games). Not trying to split-hairs or anything, but, if not “turn-based”, I don’t know what else to reference the combat style as. It’s kinda odd Skillz upvoted your post unless he never played KOTOR and had no idea what I was referencing by “keep it turn-based”. Of course I've played KOTOR and I'm currently playing the second one now. I even acknowledged in my response that I may have misunderstood what you meant, because your initial post implied two things: ONE, that you consider the original KOTOR to be a turn based game and TWO that, if the next game doesn't play like that, then it's simply an action game like Fallen Order. I acknowledged that I may have misunderstood what you meant, you clarified and even continued to clarify with this post... cool. No need to question whether or not I've actually played the game that I'm actually posting about. Quote I really don’t care what you call it. Wikipedia calls it “round based.” I think my friends and I just eventually started calling that style KOTOR or Bioware-style combat, knowing full well it was not the original game by any means to do its combat like that. I always thought of this style being referred to as "Active Time Battle" or something like that which is the phrase that the developers of Grandia came up with at the time, I think. I never regarded KOTOR or DA:O as being turn based games but whatever. It's why, again, I acknowledged that i may have misunderstood something in his post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, Brick said: I have not, but with it being an MMO wouldn't a lot of it be focused on multiplayer stuff? It used to be, but now they even have story mode dungeons. That means you, your companion, and a tank robot enter a dungeon and you get the full dungeon experience but solo. The PvP can be ignored 100%. When I played it, the only reason I could even tell it was an MMO was from the other people just hanging out in the world. At least this is all true for the base version(1-50) of the story. The story that was there at launch. Just in December I played through the vanilla Bounty Hunter story all solo. Never partied up with a single player. But yeah, SWTOR can easily be played solo and it is far better that way IMO. Also, even the newer DLC was designed for Solo play if that is how you wish to go about things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Brick said: I have not, but with it being an MMO wouldn't a lot of it be focused on multiplayer stuff? 1 hour ago, Bacon said: It used to be, but now they even have story mode dungeons. That means you, your companion, and a tank robot enter a dungeon and you get the full dungeon experience but solo. The PvP can be ignored 100%. When I played it, the only reason I could even tell it was an MMO was from the other people just hanging out in the world. At least this is all true for the base version(1-50) of the story. The story that was there at launch. Just in December I played through the vanilla Bounty Hunter story all solo. Never partied up with a single player. But yeah, SWTOR can easily be played solo and it is far better that way IMO. Also, even the newer DLC was designed for Solo play if that is how you wish to go about things. What he said. Though when I played I did pair up with a rando for a couple of hours one time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Yeah it’s not turn based. Fire Emblem is turn based. Hero’s of Might and Magic is turn based. X com is turn based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: What he said. Though when I played I did pair up with a rando for a couple of hours one time... Is Knights of The Old Republic free to play? I may check it out after I'm done with KOTOR 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Is Knights of The Old Republic free to play? No, not KOTOR. Star Wars: The Old Republic is free to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 55 minutes ago, Bacon said: No, not KOTOR. Star Wars: The Old Republic is free to play. That's what I meant lol my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 @skillzdadirecta make sure you play KOTOR II with the Restored Content Mod installed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I’m gonna get a game of KOTOR 2 going one of these days too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: @skillzdadirecta make sure you play KOTOR II with the Restored Content Mod installed. I'm about to replay it this year, and I highly suggest this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 11 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Is Knights of The Old Republic free to play? I may check it out after I'm done with KOTOR 2. It's completely free though I think you need to be a subscriber for the newer expansions. Though from what I understand if you subscribe for one month and it expires you'll still have access to all the story content. I will say it's worth (or it was when you COULD get it) the starter pack off amazon for like $40. (You got some goodies a 90 day subscription and some cartel coins (You can still get a 90 day prepaid on amazon though)) - But ignore all that first if you just want to give the game a shot which you can do for free. Here's a breakdown of F2p vs subscriber / preferred benefits: https://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/wiki/f2p 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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