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33 minutes ago, finaljedi said:

 

I get kind of tired of people complaining about people gathering for outdoor sports.  Has there been documented increase in spread with the outdoor gatherings?  The BLM protests last year didn't lead to a bump.  Comparing Christmas gatherings to baseball games is silly, one is outdoors in the open air and sun, the other is in someone's living room with a lot of people sharing air in a small space.

And sharing food.  Did Biden grab a nacho from some rando behind him

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43 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

Making those small forms a more pleasant place to be is worth it in of itself, I’m not going to pretend that it’s accomplishing anything grander than that.

 

Local politics do get discussed so don't need morons spreading FUD. 

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3 hours ago, sblfilms said:


The study results showed the halving of hospitalization when taken within 5 days if the onset of symptoms.

 

All patients within the study were given molnupiravir or placebo within 5-days. We do not know how effective day 5 was vs day 1. We also must take into account that, in real world application, within 5-days of symptoms starting is a short window as one must recognize that they are sick, it might be covid, get a test, get a doctor's appointment and script for molnupiravir. It could be argued that if one has any "covid-like" symptoms they are immediately given a script for molnupiravir while they await a covid test, however, we do not know of any side-effects this pill may have yet.
This is what I'm talking about when I say that we need more information before rejoicing. As I already stated, it is a step in the right direction, regardless, and I'm not arguing against that. What I am arguing is that this is not a substitute for vaccination, and one should not look at this pill as an alternative to vaccination.

 

3 hours ago, sblfilms said:

There is plenty of information publicly available on it.

 

The Phase 3 trial was made public? Do you have a link?

 

3 hours ago, sblfilms said:

The major benefit of this over other therapeutics is it can be administered at home, which frees up a lot of resources currently being used up in hospitals and clinics with IV drips of monoclonal antibodies and other treatments.

 

Also far easier to ship pill packs to the developing world which can be taken at home than to try and get hospitals set up with the IV treatments in these regions that have even worse staffing conditions than the western world is facing in light of large scale burn out by medical professionals.


I never said or meant to insinuate otherwise.

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27 minutes ago, Captain Pickle said:

I don’t love needles and had a few bad experiences.  I’ve gotten over it for years now but still don’t look and don’t like the feeling but she should know that it’s not a normal needle.  I was surprised when I saw it.  She needs to know it’s tiny and you don’t feel anything at all and it takes 1 second.  Again, very different than needles I’ve had before.


Yes, there's barely even a pinch to it as it's a very thin needle. However, most fears/phobias for needles isn't regarding the pain, it's the very sight of the needle that gives a reaction. :(

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2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said:

I think what Jason meant (I am assuming) is that "not feeding them" is good advice for users, but that mods should ban.

 

Yes.

 

1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said:

Making those small forms a more pleasant place to be is worth it in of itself, I’m not going to pretend that it’s accomplishing anything grander than that.

 

I was brought on as a mod because we had a problem with really crazy anti-homeless posts and the other two mods noticed that 1) I was basically on the same page as them on those posts and 2) I'm online a lot more than they are. :p

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1 hour ago, Spork3245 said:


Yes, there's barely even a pinch to it as it's a very thin needle. However, most fears/phobias for needles isn't regarding the pain, it's the very sight of the needle that gives a reaction. :(

Well for me it was the sight and the intrusion into my body.  For the sight, that was easy as I learned to look away.  piercing the skin is where my body would go pale as if into shock and there was nothing I could do about that.  For this tiny needle that was not a problem so I got no reaction.  still cant watch people get needles in movies!

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On 6/18/2021 at 11:04 AM, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

I'm going back to the office 3 days a week soon and even though I like my job well enough and the commute will be fine (I'll even get to ride my bike part way to work just to avoid dealing with parking!) and that I'll be in a brand new extremely nice office with a gym and all those things I am still considering getting a full time remote job because the quality of life it affords for me is almost entirely worth it. Working on the porch, playing with my kid or switch when I'm not busy, and just getting more time with my family. That's the good shit.

Following up here (thanks search feature): I got an offer for a full time remote job that I intend on taking. Would even be a pay bump from where I'm currently at. So my current job I've had since March and went back in office in July and I'll be quitting here in October. I gave it the old college try but I don't like it (hybrid is awful) despite thinking that this would be an ideal work situation before the pandemic. 

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37 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Following up here (thanks search feature): I got an offer for a full time remote job that I intend on taking. Would even be a pay bump from where I'm currently at. So my current job I've had since March and went back in office in July and I'll be quitting here in October. I gave it the old college try but I don't like it (hybrid is awful) despite thinking that this would be an ideal work situation before the pandemic. 


Congrats bro! Will you put that job that you had for a few months on your resume moving forward? I LOVE the job I’m at currently, but I’ve been applying to other places sparingly just in case because I’m not sure if/when they will be offering me a salaried position (it’s contract) and not sure if I would ever be expected to drive to Philly once remote work is no longer a thing (that wouldn’t be feasible for me in North Jersey).

 

My brother, who is a project manager in IT, told me that I CAN’T apply to other places atm as I have only been here 4 months and it would look horrible if on my resume moving forward I had a job that I only stayed at for four months. 1. I don’t know how accurate that is as my brother is typically wrong a lot lol and 2. I could always put I never worked here, no? Curious what people with more professional experience than me think about shit like that.

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17 minutes ago, Joe said:

. 1. I don’t know how accurate that is as my brother is typically wrong a lot lol and 2. I could always put I never worked here, no? Curious what people with more professional experience than me think about shit like that.

I would skip it on the resume,  4 months a bit short IMO. 

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54 minutes ago, Joe said:


Congrats bro! Will you put that job that you had for a few months on your resume moving forward? I LOVE the job I’m at currently, but I’ve been applying to other places sparingly just in case because I’m not sure if/when they will be offering me a salaried position (it’s contract) and not sure if I would ever be expected to drive to Philly once remote work is no longer a thing (that wouldn’t be feasible for me in North Jersey).

 

My brother, who is a project manager in IT, told me that I CAN’T apply to other places atm as I have only been here 4 months and it would look horrible if on my resume moving forward I had a job that I only stayed at for four months. 1. I don’t know how accurate that is as my brother is typically wrong a lot lol and 2. I could always put I never worked here, no? Curious what people with more professional experience than me think about shit like that.

If it's a contract or temp job that's an easy spin (try new industry, new occupation, etc) if it's a one off thing. If there's a habit of doing so you'd look like a flight risk. I may leave mine on there as I'd be jumping back to an industry I've already worked in and it was 8 months so I wouldn't need to explain any gaps, but I don't intend to jump from this company for a while. I worked with them before in a previous role so I know what I'm getting into company wise. This role also seems to be more in line with what I want to do professionally than my current job.

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32 minutes ago, johnny said:

is sbl against the booster shot? 


Nope. I’m against people deciding absent data that they should go get one because their gut tells them to. Some people got their feelings hurt over that for whatever reason 😂 Plenty of people should get boosters already, most don’t need to yet.

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25 minutes ago, sblfilms said:


Nope. I’m against people deciding absent data that they should go get one because their gut tells them to. Some people got their feelings hurt over that for whatever reason 😂 Plenty of people should get boosters already, most don’t need to yet.

oh. i only got mine because the cdc website says i fall into the category with my job that should get a booster. 

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It's time to put to bed the idea that "more transmissible = less deadly."

 

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While the study does not include what happened since Delta powered a fourth wave of COVID-19 in Canada, it helps explain the characteristic features of that wave

 

tl;dr:

 

Delta is:

  • 108% more likely to put you in hospital than original strain
  • 235% more likely to put you in the ICU
  • 133% more likely to kill you
  • More likely to be severe for younger people

 

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8 hours ago, Jason said:

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Its about time the CDC and government come out and just tell people exactly what they don't want to hear. Covid19 is here, it is not going away, the only thing we can do is get vaccinated and take precautions. Get healthy, wash your hands often, and get a booster when your doctor or the cdc tell you to. 

If you're vaccinated, you'll more than likely feel bad for a few days at worst.  At the worst, it's no more dangerous than the flu was. If you aren't vaccinated, that's your problem. Especially once children can be vaccinated.

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3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

It's time to put to bed the idea that "more transmissible = less deadly."

 

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WWW.THEGLOBEANDMAIL.COM

While the study does not include what happened since Delta powered a fourth wave of COVID-19 in Canada, it helps explain the characteristic features of that wave

 

tl;dr:

 

Delta is:

  • 108% more likely to put you in hospital than original strain
  • 235% more likely to put you in the ICU
  • 133% more likely to kill you
  • More likely to be severe for younger people

 

I don't think I've ever heard anyone claim that more transmissable meant less deadly.

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32 minutes ago, BloodyHell said:

I don't think I've ever heard anyone claim that more transmissable meant less deadly.

 

There's this weird misconception out there that as a virus or bacteria competes with other variants of itself, the less-deadly variants will spread better because they kill fewer hosts (and thus become the dominant strains). The less-dead-hosts-equals-better-spread idea only works if the virus kills you so fast that you can't spread it. But in the case of SARS-CoV-2, you are contagious before it kills you. It could become 100% deadly and it would not slow the spread. Now, if it mutated to kill people before they became contagious, then yes, it would cause less-deadly versions to become dominant (or at least, the ones that didn't kill you as fast).

 

People use historical examples to prove this...but they are usually incorrect. Viruses become less deadly over time because of our long-term immunity, so future variants are already running into our immune system that kind-of recognizes them. The 1918 flu didn't mutate to become less deadly, for example, we just all either became immune to it or died. It's still circulating around the world, it's just one of the normal strains, now.

 

 

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3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

There's this weird misconception out there that as a virus or bacteria competes with other variants of itself, the less-deadly variants will spread better because they kill fewer hosts (and thus become the dominant strains). The less-dead-hosts-equals-better-spread idea only works if the virus kills you so fast that you can't spread it. But in the case of SARS-CoV-2, you are contagious before it kills you. It could become 100% deadly and it would not slow the spread. Now, if it mutated to kill people before they became contagious, then yes, it would cause less-deadly versions to become dominant (or at least, the ones that didn't kill you as fast).

 

People use historical examples to prove this...but they are usually incorrect. Viruses become less deadly over time because of our long-term immunity, so future variants are already running into our immune system that kind-of recognizes them. The 1918 flu didn't mutate to become less deadly, for example, we just all either became immune to it or died. It's still circulating around the world, it's just one of the normal strains, now.

 

 

I think there are various scientific points of view about what happened  to the 1918 flu virus.  It is certainly true that some of the circulating flu virus variants are descendants/mutations of that virus.  However, from what I have read it would not be accurate to say that viruses from the 1918 flu are still circulating, or would be a "normal" strain today. 

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feeling extremely fatigued after my booster shot which is the same as the second one. pharmacist said to expect the same thing that happened with the second shot, for anybody who is going to get the booster. 

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6 hours ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

There's this weird misconception out there that as a virus or bacteria competes with other variants of itself, the less-deadly variants will spread better because they kill fewer hosts (and thus become the dominant strains). The less-dead-hosts-equals-better-spread idea only works if the virus kills you so fast that you can't spread it. But in the case of SARS-CoV-2, you are contagious before it kills you. It could become 100% deadly and it would not slow the spread. Now, if it mutated to kill people before they became contagious, then yes, it would cause less-deadly versions to become dominant (or at least, the ones that didn't kill you as fast).

 

People use historical examples to prove this...but they are usually incorrect. Viruses become less deadly over time because of our long-term immunity, so future variants are already running into our immune system that kind-of recognizes them. The 1918 flu didn't mutate to become less deadly, for example, we just all either became immune to it or died. It's still circulating around the world, it's just one of the normal strains, now.

 

 

I mean, I guess its one of the less shocking things people believe...

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