Ricofoley Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I am shocked, SHOCKED, that "keep politics out of sports" does not actually apply to conservative politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Was it this? I do not like that man Ted Cruz I do not like his far-right views I wish he could no longer Tweet I wish his heart would cease to beat I wish he got Covid and wouldn't get well I wish Ted Cruz would burn in hell 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: I am shocked, SHOCKED, that "keep politics out of sports" does not actually apply to conservative politics. I am also shocked, SHOCKED that conservatives sided with dumbassery and extreme selfishness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Jason said: It should be obvious you scroll through the replies to the tweet. It is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Jason said: This doesn't even make sense. Why even make it optional, let alone difficult to get? Just compel everyone in the prison to get a single J&J jab and be done with it. I can't imagine it's easier to manage the crowds when they're all sick and dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Jason said: It should be obvious you scroll through the replies to the tweet. The fleshlight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, Joe said: The fleshlight? Ding Ding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Standing with Kyrie. Will be interesting to see if my company gets to the point of shot mandates; I'm prepared to give them my religious exemption, as well as if that fails for them to let me go. I don't think it will happen though, we just made a huge acquisition and some of the main people (PhD chemists | engineers; management) asked to stay on said they would quit if the shot was mandated. That should offer me some protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, Commodore D said: Standing with Kyrie. Will be interesting to see if my company gets to the point of shot mandates; I'm prepared to give them my religious exemption, as well as if that fails for them to let me go. I don't think it will happen though, we just made a huge acquisition and some of the main people (PhD chemists | engineers; management) asked to stay on said they would quit if the shot was mandated. That should offer me some protection. Why aren’t you getting vaccinated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 LUL @ anyone standing with a flat earther and Ted Cruz. If that isn’t setting off red flags, YIKES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Commodore D said: Standing with Kyrie. Will be interesting to see if my company gets to the point of shot mandates; I'm prepared to give them my religious exemption, as well as if that fails for them to let me go. I don't think it will happen though, we just made a huge acquisition and some of the main people (PhD chemists | engineers; management) asked to stay on said they would quit if the shot was mandated. That should offer me some protection. What is your religious exemption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 minute ago, AbsolutSurgen said: What is your religious exemption? If it involves "fetal cell lines", then he'd better not use any of these other medications: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, sblfilms said: Why aren’t you getting vaccinated? The math doesn't make sense for me (age, lack of comorbids, life style) to get it. Shot, no shot; based on all the scientific data provided my designation doesn't change. Add in that it doesn't keep me from catching or passing it, and the unknowing booster cycle (I've never had a flu shot), there is little to no benefit of me taking it. Lastly, I've had Covid at least once (a month ago), and maybe twice (Oct 2019 coming back from Japan). Took me out for about three days the most recent time, even had to take some pain medication (generic Tylenol) for the first time since 2008 (half a vicadon, broken wrist). I can deal with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: If it involves "fetal cell lines", then he'd better not use any of these other medications: The development/production of the Pfizer/Moderna vaccines did not use fetal cells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Commodore D said: The math doesn't make sense for me (age, lack of comorbids, life style) to get it. Shot, no shot; based on all the scientific data provided my designation doesn't change. Add in that it doesn't keep me from catching or passing it, and the unknowing booster cycle (I've never had a flu shot), there is little to no benefit of me taking it. Lastly, I've had Covid at least once (a month ago), and maybe twice (Oct 2019 coming back from Japan). Took me out for about three days the most recent time, even had to take some pain medication (generic Tylenol) for the first time since 2008 (half a vicadon, broken wrist). I can deal with that. In summary, you're being a weak-willed, selfish coward about it. Got it. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: If it involves "fetal cell lines", then he'd better not use any of these other medications: I could have actually passed all that before my last Covid bout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: In summary, you're being a weak-willed, selfish coward about it. Got it. How am I being selfish? Just following the science and math. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Commodore D said: How am I being selfish? Because you're thinking of yourself and not greater society by voluntarily declining the vaccine despite the chances of it having any negative effect upon you being absolutely negligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Because you're thinking of yourself and not greater society by getting the vaccine despite the chances of it having any negative effect upon you being absolutely negligible. What would me getting it do for the greater society? I've been waiting on that answer for a long time. If a great one can be given, I'd be amendable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Commodore D said: What would me getting it do for the greater society? It would potentially provide another layer of antibody protection in addition to that which you already have from your previous infection. It will also demonstrate your willingness to "sacrifice" to the benefit of larger society - to accept a marginally insignificant personal "risk" for the greater good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Well this is a nice Thursday treat lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: What is your religious exemption? Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Commodore D said: Oct 2019 coming back from Japan No, you didn't Just lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Hell, if it was up to me, I'd mandate seasonal flu shots in the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: It would potentially provide another layer of antibody protection in addition to that which you already have from your previous infection. Have anything scientific that speaks to that extra layer of protection? Also, how does that benefit the greater society? I mean, I know that was the initial (unscientific) narrative; that has basically eroded to protect yourself; but there needs to be more than just words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Commodore D said: Have anything scientific that speaks to that extra layer of protection? Also, how does that benefit the greater society? I mean, I know that was the initial (unscientific) narrative; that has basically eroded to protect yourself; but there needs to be more than just words. Prior COVID-19 Infection Provides Strong Immunity, Vaccines Add More WWW.HEALTHLINE.COM According to two recent, non-peer-reviewed studies, people who recovered from a previous COVID-19 infection produced a robust immune response that was superior to vaccination alone, and adding one or more vaccine doses offered even stronger protection. Why people who already had Covid should still get vaccinated WWW.NBCNEWS.COM Do I need to get the vaccine if I had Covid? Hybrid immunity from natural infection plus the vaccine can give even better immune protection from reinfection or breakthrough case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: No, you didn't Just lol Not saying I had it, but man it was everything that came out in the beginning. Wouldn't surprise me if I had, Japan was loaded with the world at the time because of the Rugby World Cup. Also, if you're just saying that I wasn't there, just check Tokyo Club Crawl #600 on Facebook, you'll find a couple pictures of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Commodore D said: I could have actually passed all that before my last Covid bout. What religion are you seeking an exemption through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Prior COVID-19 Infection Provides Strong Immunity, Vaccines Add More WWW.HEALTHLINE.COM According to two recent, non-peer-reviewed studies, people who recovered from a previous COVID-19 infection produced a robust immune response that was superior to vaccination alone, and adding one or more vaccine doses offered even stronger protection. I started to asked for peer reviewed material (as there is plenty at the NIH that speaks in the other direction, but lacks peer review), but that's fine. Still doesn't address my booster concern; that of which I have no interest. Also doesn't speak to how I would be helping the greater society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: In summary, you're being a weak-willed, selfish coward about it. Got it. He's had covid once a month. He's a trooper and has a great immune system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I've already been accused by my former roommate of being willing to accept the "negative" effects of vaccine mandates on people as "collateral damage". My response was, "I was part of the United States military and I work with the United States military. Trust me, I'm all about 'collateral damage' when it comes to attaining my objective or for what I perceive as the 'greater good' ". If someone questions how potentially enhancing their immunity to a transmissible disease -- even if only marginally -- and at absolutely negligible risk to themselves would benefit society as a whole, then I see no profit in the attempt to convince them otherwise. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, Commodore D said: I started to asked for peer reviewed material (as there is plenty at the NIH that speaks in the other direction, but lacks peer review), but that's fine. Still doesn't address my booster concern; that of which I have no interest. Also doesn't speak to how I would be helping the greater society. Just promise not to use up hospital resources if you do catch COVID. Right now, hospitals across the world are struggling to meet to demand and refusing patients because they're filled with unvaccinated patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I've already been accused by my former roommate of being willing to accept the "negative" effects of vaccine mandates on people as "collateral damage". My response was, "I was part of the United States military and I work with the United States military. Trust me, I'm all about 'collateral damage' when it comes to attaining my objective or for what I perceive as the 'greater good' ". Yet in this case you really can't speak to a greater good. There is little evidence that shows the shot will stop this pandemic; see counties that have higher shot rates. Also, if you were truly about collateral damage ending this pandemic, you would be about not getting the shot, letting all those with comorbids die, and the recoverable live on. Maybe you were for not shutting down the country and letting it all play out; I'd have to look back, or you can state your previous position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 What a pointless sentiment. Everything that everyone accepts has some sort of “collateral damage”, nothing on this earth has an entirely positive outcome for one and all. People happily make this trade off all day and every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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