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As the threats of another lockdown appear to be real -- Canadians are becoming more willing to exclude the unvaccinated from day-to-day activities.

46% of vaccinated Canadians now support giving priority in the health care system to the vaccinated over the unvaccinated.

If schools are closed in the coming months, I can only imagine that this number will increase.

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As a Delta Wave Peaks in Some States, Others Brace for What’s Next

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Cold weather, return to school risk fueling Covid-19’s spread, public-health experts warn


We really need the cold weather states to keep vaccinating and getting those third shots for the vulnerable or delta is going to smash things there when people start heading inside for the winter

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49 minutes ago, sblfilms said:
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As a Delta Wave Peaks in Some States, Others Brace for What’s Next

APPLE.NEWS
Cold weather, return to school risk fueling Covid-19’s spread, public-health experts warn


We really need the cold weather states to keep vaccinating and getting those third shots for the vulnerable or delta is going to smash things there when people start heading inside for the winter

Delta has plateaued in Florida, not peaked and the surge of deaths are a few weeks off especially with labor day.

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39 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

Do we have any stats from the US on what the estimated ICU and mortality rates are for children under 12? I know that the hospitalization rate for Delta (<12) is around 0.5%-1.0%. 

Best I have seen is based on Alpha from Israel.

 

 

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A total of 0.98% of children who tested positive for COVID-19 from August to October 2020 were hospitalized, compared with 0.52% during December to February 2021 (RR, 0.53). However, the percentage of hospitalized children who became severely ill or died was similar in both periods (6.5% in the earlier period and 6.9% in the latter; RR, 0.99).

That would put severe illness/mortality somewhere below .036% of infections -- keeping in mind that this is a % of those that test positive (excludes asymptomatic/mild cases that go untested).

Edit:  Fixed my bad math

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COVID-19 daily epidemiology update - Canada.ca

HEALTH-INFOBASE.CANADA.CA
Summary of COVID-19 cases across Canada and over time. Contains detailed data about the spread of the virus over time and in different regions of the country. Includes breakdowns by age and sex or gender. Provides an overview of hospitalizations and deaths, testing, variants of concern and exposures.

During the entire pandemic there have been 26,837 deaths from Covid (as of 9/3) -- 12 of those were below 19.

During the entire pandemic there have been 14,849 people admitted to ICU -- 174 of those were below 19.

Age and genderFootnote4 distribution of COVID-19 cases admitted to ICU in Canada as of September 3, 2021, 5 pm EDT (n=14,849Footnote1)
Age group (years) Number of cases with case reports (percentage) Number of male cases (percentage) Number of female cases (percentage) Number of other cases (percentage)
0-19 174 (1.2%) 94 (0.6%) 80 (0.5%) 0 (0.0%)
20-29 416 (2.8%) 216 (1.5%) 200 (1.3%) 0 (0.0%)
30-39 924 (6.2%) 534 (3.6%) 390 (2.6%) 0 (0.0%)
40-49 1,548 (10.4%) 972 (6.5%) 576 (3.9%) 0 (0.0%)
50-59 2,970 (20.0%) 1,948 (13.1%) 1,022 (6.9%) 0 (0.0%)
60-69 3,899 (26.3%) 2,518 (17.0%) 1,381 (9.3%) 0 (0.0%)
70-79 3,366 (22.7%) 2,138 (14.4%) 1,228 (8.3%) 0 (0.0%)
80+ 1,552 (10.5%) 882 (5.9%) 670 (4.5%) 0 (0.0%)
Age and genderFootnote4 distribution of COVID-19 cases deceased in Canada as of September 3, 2021, 5 pm EDT (n=26,873Footnote1)
Age group (years) Number of cases with case reports (percentage) Number of male cases (percentage) Number of female cases (percentage) Number of other cases (percentage)
0-19 12 (0.0%) 5 (0.0%) 7 (0.0%) 0 (0.0%)
20-29 68 (0.3%) 44 (0.2%) 24 (0.1%) 0 (0.0%)
30-39 152 (0.6%) 97 (0.4%) 55 (0.2%) 0 (0.0%)
40-49 354 (1.3%) 227 (0.8%) 127 (0.5%) 0 (0.0%)
50-59 1,033 (3.8%) 640 (2.4%) 393 (1.5%) 0 (0.0%)
60-69 2,620 (9.7%) 1,675 (6.2%) 945 (3.5%) 0 (0.0%)
70-79 5,474 (20.4%) 3,268 (12.2%) 2,206 (8.2%) 0 (0.0%)
80+ 17,160 (63.9%) 7,618 (28.3%) 9,542 (35.5%) 0 (0.00%)
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7 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

For context:

In the 2018/2019 flu season there were 10 pediatric (under 16) deaths and 271 admittances to ICU.

In the 2019/2020 flu season there were 7 pediatric deaths and 225 admittance to ICU.

 

A major difference, of course, is that we've contained it to around 12 deaths with extensive protective measures in place. It would be significantly higher if we just let 80%+ of all children catch it.

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33 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

A major difference, of course, is that we've contained it to around 12 deaths with extensive protective measures in place. It would be significantly higher if we just let 80%+ of all children catch it.

I'm assuming we're discussing the risk of opening schools this fall - and the risk to unvaccinated kids.

 

There are about 4,500,000 kids in Canada under the age of 12 that cannot get vaccinated before Christmas.

1)  Using the death rate from the Pandemic (12/278,789 = .00434%).

If 80% catch it - 156 deaths

If 20% catch it - 40 deaths

2)  If I look at the CDC estimated death rates where they try to adjust for undiagnosed cases (332/26,838,244) 

If 80% catch it - 44 deaths

If 20% catch it -- 11 deaths

Given the vaccination rate among 12+ is ~85% with 1 dose, 78% with 2 doses, my gut is that even with the kind of restrictions we have today/planned for this fall, that the infection rate of <12 would be much closer to 20% than 80% (and potentially lower).

Edit: Cleaned up my horrible grammar

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38 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said:

The thing that concerns me about younger kids getting COVID isn't so much death or severe illness, its any potential long term damage. Its one of the reasons why I still don't want to get sick despite being vaccinated.

 

All we need is a generation of children suffering from asthma and kidney problems.

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Is there any initial data suggesting such long term negative outcomes for juvenile Covid patients? We should now have data on kids post infection by over a year, so I would be surprised if there weren’t some indicators of long term I’ll effects already.


It isn’t a subject I’ve really looked into at this point. Our kids aren’t in public school and the vast majority of their time is spent with vaccinated adults or other low transmission risk kids (either on account of vaccination status or simply due to lifestyle choices).

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