Iculus Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 42 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: He's the former head of the CDC not your crazy Uncle so... I'll say it again, Redfield was terrible before the pandemic, during the pandemic, and continues to be after the pandemic. He is a total clown whose utter incompetence went mostly unnoticed until people started dieing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Razer’s RGB face mask is no longer a concept | PCGamesN WWW.PCGAMESN.COM It's probably more expensive than your standard cloth mask, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Also while Canada isn't at the USA's level yet, it's picked up quite a bit. New record of 190k yesterday, which is equivalent to around 1.7m if it was the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I was on the parking shuttle with just the bus driver and myself. A sweet older lady. Asked her if she’s been vaccinated yet and said no, it’s all experimental, etc. By the end of it she said she’d really consider the J&J vaccine after I explained the situation. I think we are all going to have to become advocates for the vaccine because there are a lot of people who are just completely ignorant about these things but actually do respond well to non-confrontational explanations. Be caring and people respond to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: I was on the parking shuttle with just the bus driver and myself. A sweet older lady. Asked her if she’s been vaccinated yet and said no, it’s all experimental, etc. By the end of it she said she’d really consider the J&J vaccine after I explained the situation. I think we are all going to have to become advocates for the vaccine because there are a lot of people who are just completely ignorant about these things but actually do respond well to non-confrontational explanations. Be caring and people respond to that. You said, "If you don't take the vaccine I'mma pour this bottle of piss on you" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: You said, "If you don't take the vaccine I'mma pour this bottle of piss on you" natch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 43 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Razer’s RGB face mask is no longer a concept | PCGamesN WWW.PCGAMESN.COM It's probably more expensive than your standard cloth mask, though Too late! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 50 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I was on the parking shuttle with just the bus driver and myself. A sweet older lady. Asked her if she’s been vaccinated yet and said no, it’s all experimental, etc. By the end of it she said she’d really consider the J&J vaccine after I explained the situation. I think we are all going to have to become advocates for the vaccine because there are a lot of people who are just completely ignorant about these things but actually do respond well to non-confrontational explanations. Be caring and people respond to that. I managed to convince a friend of mine to get it and my brother who was skeptical. Still working on my sister who I was surprised to find out doesn't want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 41 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Too late! @Commissar SFLUFAN said he's going to continue to wear one so he's def going to swag out in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I'm thankful that no one in my family or my circle of friends is hesitant to get the vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I don't understand people against vaccines. We all get then as babies and children and then we get booster shots every 10 years for them. How can people not be for what they got as babies and children? Do they rehect booster shots? Why? It all doesn't make sense. Experimental? I mean, its that ir die by the virus. Which option is better hmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I don't understand people against vaccines. We all get then as babies and children and then we get booster shots every 10 years for them. How can people not be for what they got as babies and children? Do they rehect booster shots? Why? It all doesn't make sense. Experimental? I mean, its that ir die by the virus. Which option is better hmmmmm. Social media, and the misinformation and false equivalences it enables. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 NJ getting walloped, especially my county. However, there is good news! B.1.526 SARS-CoV-2 variants identified in New York City are neutralized by vaccine-elicited and therapeutic monoclonal antibodies WWW.BIORXIV.ORG bioRxiv - the preprint server for biology, operated by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, a research and educational institution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 NJ getting walloped, especially my county. However, there is good news! B.1.526 SARS-CoV-2 variants identified in New York City are neutralized by vaccine-elicited and therapeutic monoclonal antibodies WWW.BIORXIV.ORG bioRxiv - the preprint server for biology, operated by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, a research and educational institution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: I was on the parking shuttle with just the bus driver and myself. A sweet older lady. Asked her if she’s been vaccinated yet and said no, it’s all experimental, etc. By the end of it she said she’d really consider the J&J vaccine after I explained the situation. I think we are all going to have to become advocates for the vaccine because there are a lot of people who are just completely ignorant about these things but actually do respond well to non-confrontational explanations. Be caring and people respond to that. I've always said that in order to convince someone of something, especially if it's something they're wrong about, you can't be confrontational and condescending to them. As much as we all get angry at the super, die hard conspiracy theorists, and want to yell at them about how stupid they are, that won't convince them, it's just going to make them defensive, and feel like they're backed up into a corner. It's like religion and asshole atheists who think they're going to convince religious people that God isn't real by calling them superstitious, and dumb for believing in fairy tales. The real way to convince people of anything is to treat them with respect, and calmly explain things to them. Hopefully they're willing to listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, Chris- said: Social media, and the misinformation and false equivalences it enables. Also not having firsthand experience with the diseases the vaccines prevent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, Joe said: NJ getting walloped, especially my county. However, there is good news! B.1.526 SARS-CoV-2 variants identified in New York City are neutralized by vaccine-elicited and therapeutic monoclonal antibodies WWW.BIORXIV.ORG bioRxiv - the preprint server for biology, operated by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, a research and educational institution So the current vaccines are effective against the NYC varients. Good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Chris- said: Social media, and the misinformation and false equivalences it enables. 1 hour ago, Jason said: Also not having firsthand experience with the diseases the vaccines prevent. No amount of social media would convince me though about something that is pretty commonly accepted to do to the point we do it to all our babies and children (vaccines). How are they so easily swayed the other way despite what's already commonly accepted and understood? It would take a mountain of very convincing evidence from legit experts to change my mind on something like vaccines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: No amount of social media would convince me though about something that is pretty commonly accepted to do to the point we do it to all our babies and children (vaccines). How are they so easily swayed the other way despite what's already commonly accepted and understood? It would take a mountain of very convincing evidence from legit experts to change my mind on something like vaccines. It’s not vaccines generally, it’s mRNA vaccines specifically. Which “experimental” is still poor language to use, but there have been no mass vaccinations using mRNA tech to date so it IS different than what they pumped into their babies. That’s actually why I’ve tried to help walk people through the differences and why the J&J vaccine should especially give no heartburn as it’s based on very tried and true methodology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, sblfilms said: It’s not vaccines generally, it’s mRNA vaccines specifically. Which “experimental” is still poor language to use, but there have been no mass vaccinations using mRNA tech to date so it IS different than what they pumped into their babies. That’s actually why I’ve tried to help walk people through the differences and why the J&J vaccine should especially give no heartburn as it’s based on very tried and true methodology. To me this seems like a distinction without a difference, an approved vaccine by scientists and doctors is an approved vaccine by scientists and doctors, the specific tech is irrelevant at that point isn't it? And do people rejecting the vaccine really know this distinction and understand what it means? We're not talking about PhD's here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It’s not vaccines generally, it’s mRNA vaccines specifically. Which “experimental” is still poor language to use, but there have been no mass vaccinations using mRNA tech to date so it IS different than what they pumped into their babies. That’s actually why I’ve tried to help walk people through the differences and why the J&J vaccine should especially give no heartburn as it’s based on very tried and true methodology. Yeah, like I have mentioned previously, the amount of people specifically looking for the J&J vaccine in the NJ vaccine group is incredible. I think that that being the deciding factor is dumb, but if it gets these folks to get the jab, I will gladly stfu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: To me this seems like a distinction without a difference, an approved vaccine by scientists and doctors is an approved vaccine by scientists and doctors, the specific tech is irrelevant at that point isn't it? And do people rejecting the vaccine really know this distinction and understand what it means? We're not talking about PhD's here. No, it's not a distinction without a difference. At all. We have very limited long range data on these treatments, and the scientists who make them will acknowledge that. We have had damaging vaccines before. But I think you can weigh the information and make the rational choice to go with mRNA vaccines, but you can also opt for something created the traditional way that works better than the majority of vaccines we give out each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Joe said: Yeah, like I have mentioned previously, the amount of people specifically looking for the J&J vaccine in the NJ vaccine group is incredible. I think that that being the deciding factor is dumb, but if it gets these folks to get the jab, I will gladly stfu. I think it is overly cautious, but not dumb. Medical treatments are...pretty intimate and feeling trust and comfort is pretty important for anybody considering injecting a foreign substance into their body. Knowing that one treatment is based on very well tested methods over decades of time combined with the benefits of only a single dose make it an attractive option for people who aren't very deep in the weeds of this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I had to explain to my anti-vax ex girlfriend about thinks like peer review. A lot of regular people don't have any understanding of scientific process and just think "pharmaceutical companies = bad, vaccines funded by those companies means vaccines = bad." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: No amount of social media would convince me though about something that is pretty commonly accepted to do to the point we do it to all our babies and children (vaccines). How are they so easily swayed the other way despite what's already commonly accepted and understood? It would take a mountain of very convincing evidence from legit experts to change my mind on something like vaccines. Right but you think critically, even when the argument is coming from a friend, family member, coworker, etc. A lot of people aren’t like that- they see someone who they otherwise consider smart make a dubious statement and they don’t dig any deeper, because they are unwilling to challenge their preconceived notions about that person and their line of thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It’s not vaccines generally, it’s mRNA vaccines specifically. Which “experimental” is still poor language to use, but there have been no mass vaccinations using mRNA tech to date so it IS different than what they pumped into their babies. That’s actually why I’ve tried to help walk people through the differences and why the J&J vaccine should especially give no heartburn as it’s based on very tried and true methodology. I don’t disagree with your distinction, but I haven’t seen a single person who is on the fence cite the fact that it’s an mRNA vaccine. I think you are giving a lot of people too much credit, but maybe you’ve just talked to some more knowledgeable people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chris- said: I don’t disagree with your distinction, but I haven’t seen a single person who is on the fence cite the fact that it’s an mRNA vaccine. I think you are giving a lot of people too much credit, but maybe you’ve just talked to some more knowledgeable people. The old lady on the bus was absolutely talking about mRNA even though she didn’t use that word. I’ve had lots of these conversations and people know it’s something new and different even if they don’t know the specifics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 My maga mom got her shot so that's a W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I get all of my medical advice from the flat-earther who blew himself up in his backyard in order to disprove known science. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I like how news outlets go to bumfuck fuckasstown and are like "YOU GETTIN THA VACCINE!?" "NAW I AIN'T QUEER" like it means anything 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: I like how news outlets go to bumfuck fuckasstown and are like "YOU GETTIN THA VACCINE!?" "NAW I AIN'T WANNA TURN QUEER" like it means anything Fixed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I just got out of the hospital following a weeklong heroin binge in which I managed to fling and bang my body around with such discontent that I ended up with a rare liver and kidney disease called Rhabdomyolysis - Wikipedia EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG which had me laid up in the ER getting hemoglobin through an IV in the hallway, because every ward in the hospital was overflowing with either covid patients or drug overdoses. A week later and I STILL HAVENT GOTTEN COVID That’s right folks. I’m living “that” American dream. Pray for me. (Not really, I’m not worth the prayer energy, but I am better now) 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Iculus said: I get all of my medical advice from the flat-earther who blew himself up in his backyard in order to disprove known science. I would point out that he's dead, but if you're an anti-vaxx, flat earther than I am sure you're just conversing with him through your medium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Chairslinger said: I would point out that he's dead, but if you're an anti-vaxx, flat earther than I am sure you're just conversing with him through your medium I built an afterlife radio out of crystals and essential oils. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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