SaysWho? Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 50 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I saw OJ Simpson trending and was pretty impressed that all it was was his vaccine. This was my favorite, though: 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, Joe said: So this makes sense of some of the differing data from providers in Israel if efficacy grows that much in the second half of the month since injection. Good stuff and mounting evidence that getting first doses should be a slightly higher priority than second doses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 7 hours ago, osxmatt said: What part of Oregon are you in again? I'm in Salem and we got a good few inches here Tuesday night, although my brother who lives in SE Portland just got a light dusting. 6 hours ago, Fizzzzle said: I'm in northwest Portland. We haven't had any snow stick yet, we just had a night of falling snow that melted. I'm in southeast Portland but work in Hillsboro. Oregon crew unite! Got some snow in Hillsboro but it was pretty much all gone by the time I got home from work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Hearing I might get vaccinated early. High level user support has its perks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 15 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Buffets are nuts. They have like a <3% profit margin iirc. I have no idea how any stay in business. I would go to Harrah's buffet on Saturday nights. The buffet was to get people into the casino to gamble before and/or after you eat. They had a 50% discount for locals and you couldn't find a better deal on seafood and Prime rib for $20 including $6 tip. Unfortunately both closed when it sold to be turned into apartments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 BBC News - Covid: Argentina imposes new tax on wealthiest Covid: Argentina imposes new tax on wealthiest WWW.BBC.CO.UK A one-off tax on Argentina's richest people will pay for medical supplies and help for businesses. I'm definitely not going to cry about this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Evidence Builds That Pregnant Women Pass Covid Antibodies to Newborns - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM A new study suggests that protective antibodies can be transferred through the placenta, and the baby may receive more of them if a mother is infected with Covid earlier in her pregnancy. Get every pregnant woman an mRNA covid vaccine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Evidence Builds That Pregnant Women Pass Covid Antibodies to Newborns - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM A new study suggests that protective antibodies can be transferred through the placenta, and the baby may receive more of them if a mother is infected with Covid earlier in her pregnancy. Get every pregnant woman an mRNA covid vaccine Aren’t pregnant women not receiving it because it wasn’t tested on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, Joe said: Aren’t pregnant women not receiving it because it wasn’t tested on them? That's what I heard. I know my brother's wife was holding off of getting the vaccine because she was still breastfeeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, Joe said: Aren’t pregnant women not receiving it because it wasn’t tested on them? They absolutely are getting the vaccine. Pregnancy is a high risk condition for contracting severe covid-19. After talking with her OB, my wife and her doctor decided that since the push to open schools in person is so great, and the risk still significant for her, she should get the vaccine. The WHO, the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and more have said that the covid mRNA vaccine should not be withheld from pregnant and lactating women. We currently already give pregnant and lactating women mRNA vaccines safely, and DART studies do not appear concerning at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: They absolutely are getting the vaccine. Pregnancy is a high risk condition for contracting severe covid-19. After talking with her OB, my wife and her doctor decided that since the push to open schools in person is so great, and the risk still significant for her, she should get the vaccine. The WHO, the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and more have said that the covid mRNA vaccine should not be withheld from pregnant and lactating women. We currently already give pregnant and lactating women mRNA vaccines safely, and DART studies do not appear concerning at this point. We found out my wife was pregnant on Christmas Eve only to find out that she was carrying a miscarriage on NYE because of the way her HCG levels plummeted. She's been hesitant to get the vaccine since we are trying again, so thanks for this info as I will be definitely showing it to her. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Joe said: We found out my wife was pregnant on Christmas Eve only to find out that she was carrying a miscarriage on NYE because of the way her HCG levels plummeted. She's been hesitant to get the vaccine since we are trying again, so thanks for this info as I will be definitely showing it to her. That really stinks man, sorry to hear that. I know miscarriages can be rough. One thing to keep in mind is that COVID-19 is associated with an increased risk of preterm birth. That said, here's the whole statement from the WHO on the Pfizer vaccine (similar for the moderna since it's also mRNA based) Quote Pregnant women are at higher risk of severe COVID-19 compared to women of child-bearing age who are not pregnant, and COVID- 19 has been associated with an increased risk of preterm birth. The available data on BNT162b2 vaccination of pregnant women are insufficient to assess vaccine efficacy or vaccine-associated risks in pregnancy. However, it should be noted that the BNT162b2 vaccine is not a live virus vaccine, the mRNA does not enter the nucleus of the cell and is degraded quickly. Developmental and reproductive toxicology (DART) studies in animals have not shown harmful effects in pregnancy. Further studies are planned in pregnant women in the coming months. As data from these studies become available, recommendations on vaccination will be updated accordingly. In the interim, WHO recommends not to use BNT162b2 in pregnancy, unless the benefit of vaccinating a pregnant woman outweighs the potential vaccine risks, such as in health workers at high risk of exposure and pregnant women with comorbidities placing them in a high-risk group for severe COVID-19. Information and, if possible, counselling on the lack of safety and efficacy data for pregnant women should be provided. WHO does not recommend pregnancy testing prior to vaccination. We're taking the risk because my wife is already at higher risk for preterm birth based on our last kid and she has increased risk of exposure due to schools reopening, and she has a heart condition. Ymmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Companies don't like to experiment on pregnant women and children for obvious reasons, but usually there is no reason that vaccines (and other treatments) can't be used on them (and often are prescribed by doctors, off-label). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Companies don't like to experiment on pregnant women and children for obvious reasons, but usually there is no reason that vaccines (and other treatments) can't be used on them (and often are prescribed by doctors, off-label). Also finding out you're pregnant after taking the treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marioandsonic Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Is the US getting the AstraZeneca vaccine at all? What about Novavax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Harris County (where Houston is) is set to get some 50k doses next week and will be doing a lottery draw for people to get appointments (as long as you are 1a/1b, which including type 2 diabetics is like 96% of Texans!) as opposed to whoever joined the waitlist first and a LOT of people are complaining about it. I think it's probably good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Is the US getting the AstraZeneca vaccine at all? What about Novavax? I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like AstraZeneca is getting approved here. Novavax is trying to get FDA approval, but it's not a guarantee because it was UK data. Worst case, we get Novavax in April/May assuming the US data is as good as the UK data. Best hope right now is for ramped up product and distribution of the two vaccines we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joe said: I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like AstraZeneca is getting approved here. Novavax is trying to get FDA approval, but it's not a guarantee because it was UK data. Worst case, we get Novavax in April/May assuming the US data is as good as the UK data. Best hope right now is for ramped up product and distribution of the two vaccines we have. We're currently averaging over a million doses per day, aren't we? With the promise of ramped up distribution, plus the J&J vaccine likely getting approved in a few weeks, we could be looking at an average of at least 3-4 million per day by spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: We're currently averaging over a million doses per day, aren't we? With the promise of ramped up distribution, plus the J&J vaccine likely getting approved in a few weeks, we could be looking at an average of at least 3-4 million per day by spring. Yes, indeed. Hopefully Novavax gets approved for EUA, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Harris County (where Houston is) is set to get some 50k doses next week and will be doing a lottery draw for people to get appointments (as long as you are 1a/1b, which including type 2 diabetics is like 96% of Texans!) as opposed to whoever joined the waitlist first and a LOT of people are complaining about it. I think it's probably good. Honestly, I would take this method over what's going on in the Hackensack Meridian Hospital system in Bergen County right now, which is who can refresh faster and have the better autofill app if you are lucky enough to refresh at the right moment. So fucking frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, Joe said: I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like AstraZeneca is getting approved here. Novavax is trying to get FDA approval, but it's not a guarantee because it was UK data. Worst case, we get Novavax in April/May assuming the US data is as good as the UK data. Best hope right now is for ramped up product and distribution of the two vaccines we have. AZ is redoing their Phase III trial in the US after they messed up their first one, and it's expected to be done in March, I believe. So it could still be approved and used, especially later in the summer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 55 minutes ago, Joe said: Honestly, I would take this method over what's going on in the Hackensack Meridian Hospital system in Bergen County right now, which is who can refresh faster and have the better autofill app if you are lucky enough to refresh at the right moment. So fucking frustrating. Yeah. I think a lottery system where you know at some point your number comes up and you can make an appointment is better than all these other things where you have to be at the right place at the right time, so still luck, but with much more effort and stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Yeah. I think a lottery system where you know at some point your number comes up and you can make an appointment is better than all these other things where you have to be at the right place at the right time, so still luck, but with much more effort and stress. My wife wouldn't have gotten her appointment if she didn't just so happen to be on her work email at a little after 5 on a Friday a few weeks ago. She filled out her appt then sent a text to other teachers letting them know and by that point this particular window was closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 8 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: My wife wouldn't have gotten her appointment if she didn't just so happen to be on her work email at a little after 5 on a Friday a few weeks ago. She filled out her appt then sent a text to other teachers letting them know and by that point this particular window was closed My mom managed to get appointments for her, my dad, my brother, and my brother's live-in caretaker but it took 2 hours waiting on the phone today plus constant attempts to find appointments the last couple of weeks. You probably shouldn't need to have that kind of time available just to get vaccinated. My mom sounded nervous about whether everyone's appointments will actually happen but hopefully that's just from how much time it's taken to get vaccinated. Don't love that it sounds like there's no drive-up vaccination sites like in California though, I'm happy they're getting it but also kind of nervous about having to spend time indoors with a bunch of other people to get it. Since my brother can't wear a mask (as in, he'd rip it right back off) hopefully they can convince the employees to come do it outside for all four of them. [edit] Apparently incoming snow has already cancelled Monday appointments, the ones my mom got are Wednesday so hopefully those hold. Did call her and suggest trying to get them to bring out the other three doses if they're willing to bring out my brother's since they'll have to come outside either way at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 One of the things that I read as more vaccine options become available people may get choosy about which one they get, but one doctor said the most key takeaway from every vaccine hitting the market thus far is it eradicates death. You get vaccinated, your loved one gets vaccinated, you or them will not die from this. Even hospitalization numbers fall off the face of the earth with all of them. The main difference is in the ratios of not getting vs getting it with very mild symptoms, with even the worst ones being among the top tier of normal vaccine efficacy. The news of vaccines and vaccinations themselves is rapidly improving and there is cause for great optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 54 minutes ago, sblfilms said: One of the things that I read as more vaccine options become available people may get choosy about which one they get, but one doctor said the most key takeaway from every vaccine hitting the market thus far is it eradicates death. You get vaccinated, your loved one gets vaccinated, you or them will not die from this. Even hospitalization numbers fall off the face of the earth with all of them. The main difference is in the ratios of not getting vs getting it with very mild symptoms, with even the worst ones being among the top tier of normal vaccine efficacy. The news of vaccines and vaccinations themselves is rapidly improving and there is cause for great optimism. It's also very important to note that even if everyone got the "worst" vaccine (J&J - 65% efficacy), it's not like 35% of people would still get the virus and get sick, because herd immunity begins to kick in and slow the spread of the virus massively once enough people have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 9 Top N.Y. Health Officials Have Quit as Cuomo Scorns Expertise - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM “When I say ‘experts’ in air quotes, it sounds like I’m saying I don’t really trust the experts,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said of pandemic policies. “Because I don’t.” Quote In recent weeks, the governor has repeatedly made it clear that he believed he had no choice but to seize more control over pandemic policy from state and local public health officials, who he said had no understanding of how to conduct a real-world, large-scale operation like vaccinations. After early problems, in which relatively few doses were being administered, the pace of vaccinations has picked up and New York is now roughly 20th in the nation in percentage of residents who have received at least one vaccine dose. Quote “Morale certainly was and continues to be at an all-time low,” one former health official said. The former official pointed out that during past emergencies, the department rallied and morale soared as officials felt that their talent and experience were valued. “In the pandemic, the opposite happened,” the former official said. Quote Mr. Cuomo said his approach had delivered results in New York, including a positivity rate that has been declining after a peak in early January and better vaccination rates. New York saw the worst of the pandemic in the spring, and roughly 43,000 have died, more than in any other state. “The scale changes everything,” Mr. Cuomo said. “My job is to get the vaccinations done as soon as possible.” In the fall, Mr. Cuomo shelved vaccine distribution plans that top state health officials had been drawing up, one person with knowledge of the decision said. The plans had relied in part on years of preparations at the local level — an outgrowth of bioterrorism fears following Sept. 11 — and on experience dispensing vaccine through county health departments during the H1N1 pandemic in 2009. Article goes in-depth on all of this, but here are just a few snippets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: 9 Top N.Y. Health Officials Have Quit as Cuomo Scorns Expertise - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM “When I say ‘experts’ in air quotes, it sounds like I’m saying I don’t really trust the experts,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said of pandemic policies. “Because I don’t.” Article goes in-depth on all of this, but here are just a few snippets. Quote “When I say ‘experts’ in air quotes, it sounds like I’m saying I don’t really trust the experts,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said of pandemic policies. “Because I don’t.” Once again proving he's the Democratic Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Do the vaccines protect against the long term effects present in a good chunk of people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joestradamus Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Did I miss something... one of my trump supporting family members is sharing a post that states Biden says it's okay to take hydroxychloroquine and how dems are hypocrites for saying it was bad when trump said we should take it. Did this really happen and I missed it, or is my aunt a fucking moron?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Joestradamus said: Did I miss something... one of my trump supporting family members is sharing a post that states Biden says it's okay to take hydroxychloroquine and how dems are hypocrites for saying it was bad when trump said we should take it. Did this really happen and I missed it, or is my aunt a fucking moron?! Sounds totally made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joestradamus Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Sounds totally made up. I figure as much, just didn't want to jump on her prematurely, if I even say anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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