Joe Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, CayceG said: We're a year in to the presidency and when he was inaugurated things were just about as bad as they are now. Where were the federal testing sites? I'll give him the vaccine mandate. That's fair. He still hasn't released the patents to help the rest of the world that's still waiting on 1st vaccine doses. And you can claim I'm doing the right's dirty work all you want. That's just not true. Criticizing Biden isn't helping the right wing. That's foolish. Don't look at me like I'm in some political team binary. I want Biden to live up to the standards and promises he made to get to where he is. So far he has not. He isn't 100% to blame with where things are either. I can lob just as many grenades at the right and their followers. But when it comes to exercising power to do what he said, he's fallen well short. Biden made a monumental movement to get people vaccinated when he was inaugurated. Maybe some have forgotten? I myself got both doses in a FEMA site in the Meadowlands in NJ as did countless NJ residents. I’m not saying he’s above criticism (the new CDC rule is bullshit), but let’s not help promote right wing out of context clips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Whoopsie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblfilms Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Third day since symptoms presented and I’m back to normal. My PCR test just came back positive and Omicron is the stated variant found in my sample. Wife has a slight bit of congestion, but kinda feels like even that will clear up by dinner time. Kids are all fine, but are faking so their aunt will keep taking care of them 😂 Vaccines are wonderful 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Damn, I finally got around to scheduling a booster appointment and I couldn't get one until the end of January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Fizzzzle said: Damn, I finally got around to scheduling a booster appointment and I couldn't get one until the end of January. Did you go with a big chain like CVS? Try walk-ins, also try small independent pharmacies, I got my Moderna shot at the start of this month on short notice from a compounding pharmacy with maybe three or four dozen locations in a few states. I had made an appointment on the 6th for the 11th, but I was flying on the 14th so I wanted it sooner and got a walk-in at a different location of the same pharmacy on the 7th by calling and asking if they were doing walk-ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Did you go with a big chain like CVS? Try walk-ins, also try small independent pharmacies, I got my Moderna shot at the start of this month on short notice from a compounding pharmacy with maybe three or four dozen locations in a few states. I had made an appointment on the 6th for the 11th, but I was flying on the 14th so I wanted it sooner and got a walk-in at a different location of the same pharmacy on the 7th by calling and asking if they were doing walk-ins. Yeah it's at a Safeway/Albertson's/Vons/whatever they're called where you are. They say they do accept walk ins, but it's juuuuust far enough away from me that I can't just pop in whenever on my way to do whatever. There is a Walgreens that's a lot closer, I could try popping in there on my way to get groceries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: Yeah it's at a Safeway/Albertson's/Vons/whatever they're called where you are. They say they do accept walk ins, but it's juuuuust far enough away from me that I can't just pop in whenever on my way to do whatever. There is a Walgreens that's a lot closer, I could try popping in there on my way to get groceries. Later in the day is probably better too, since they'll know if they have leftovers from no shows earlier in the day. But just sticking your head in when it's convenient is still likely enough to get you something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I'm still trying to wrap my head around a 5 day quarantine without a test, like my wife and daughter haven't received results from a NYS testing site on Friday, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: I'm still trying to wrap my head around a 5 day quarantine without a test, like my wife and daughter haven't received results from a NYS testing site on Friday, lol. 🧐 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, Joe said: 🧐 Because it wasn’t a data driven decision. They are throwing in the towel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chris- said: Because it wasn’t a data driven decision. They are throwing in the towel. 17 hours ago, Jason said: Very cool that we're cutting isolation times for reasons that have nothing to do with new evidence about how long you're infectious for. Airlines and other industries were asking for this last week and I'm guessing the clusterfuck with all the canceled flights because of sick crewmembers on the 24th and 25th pushed the CDC into caving on this. Very glad I was able to get home on the 25th despite my initial flight getting canceled so I didn't have to be there worrying if the flight attendants were people who were only back to work because of the CDC giving up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblfilms Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Chris- said: Because it wasn’t a data driven decision. They are throwing in the towel. Not a *medical data* decision at least 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Hopefully Omicron is the final fever dream of this pandemic, and we can wake up tomorrow (figuratively) and return to normal life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jason said: Airlines and other industries were asking for this last week and I'm guessing the clusterfuck with all the canceled flights because of sick crewmembers on the 24th and 25th pushed the CDC into caving on this. Very glad I was able to get home on the 25th despite my initial flight getting canceled so I didn't have to be there worrying if the flight attendants were people who were only back to work because of the CDC giving up. That might be part of it but the bigger picture is that this is simply a losing fight. There isn’t enough political or societal willpower to do what truly needs to be done in order to control spread, and at this point pretending otherwise is just tilting at windmills. This is what life will look like now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chris- said: That might be part of it but the bigger picture is that this is simply a losing fight. There isn’t enough political or societal willpower to do what truly needs to be done in order to control spread, and at this point pretending otherwise is just tilting at windmills. This is what life will look like now. As contagious as Omicron is, controlling spread would be difficult, even if we had a totalitarian government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblfilms Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I think there is an argument to be made that things like public health policy can’t be about the optimal outcome, but the realistic expectations the government can have on it’s people. (these are made up numbers to illustrate the point) If the optimal policy is 10 days and a negative test, but only 10% of people do it, you may be better off with 5 days and waning symptoms if 50% will do that. In that sense, giving up on the optimal for the practical produces better outcomes in the aggregate. I foresee more of these types of decisions in the coming months as we fully transition into “living with Covid” part of the pandemic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 Governments can only: 1) Get as many people boosted as they can 2) Enact war-time measures to get as many anti-Covid pills in the hospitals as possible (this is likely a measure that we won't see the benefits of for a few months) 3) Convince at risk people they should be wearing CN95 masks 4) Hope that Omicron really has low virulence. What else can they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 This is the exact same bullshit as when they told us masks weren't necessary: Quote [Dr. Céline Gounder, an infectious disease expert at New York University] and others pointed out that the CDC may not have included testing requirements in their update because the country is currently seeing shortages of rapid tests and long lines at testing centers. "CDC's isolation policy is being driven by a scarcity of rapid antigen tests," she concluded. But, Mina pushed back on this excuse, calling it an "artificial" problem stemming from a failure to fortify testing capacity earlier in the pandemic. CDC draws criticism for shorter COVID quarantine, isolation as omicron bears down ARSTECHNICA.COM Data backs shorter periods, but experts say testing is key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 @Joe I'm feeling more and more vindicated in my stance regarding Biden's Covid response with all this new news 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I’m of the mindset that if Trump were still President, most of us wouldn’t be vaccinated because the rollout would have been shit. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoidHater Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, MarSolo said: I’m of the mindset that if Trump were still President, most of us wouldn’t be vaccinated because the rollout would have been shit. I feel that if he won, he would have continued to feed raw meat to his base instead of touting the vaccines effectiveness as he has, but what do I know 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, MarSolo said: I’m of the mindset that if Trump were still President, most of us wouldn’t be vaccinated because the rollout would have been shit. All of the doses would have been sent to Texas and Florida to stick it to the libs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoidHater Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, Jason said: All of the doses would have been sent to Texas and Florida to stick it to the libs. And most would probably have expired based on republican views of the vaccine, which would probably be magnified by some more outlandish cures pushed by the fringe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, CayceG said: @Joe I'm feeling more and more vindicated in my stance regarding Biden's Covid response with all this new news No, not really. He could completely fuck up the response the rest of the way, but it wouldn’t change that the clip was out of context and a garbage right wing talking point. The fact that only Jason agrees with you should be your clue here, amigo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Joe said: No, not really. He could completely fuck up the response the rest of the way, but it wouldn’t change that the clip was out of context and a garbage right wing talking point. The fact that only Jason agrees with you should be your clue here, amigo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Joe said: No, not really. He could completely fuck up the response the rest of the way, but it wouldn’t change that the clip was out of context and a garbage right wing talking point. The fact that only Jason agrees with you should be your clue here, amigo I reject Jason's agreement. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, CayceG said: I reject Jason's agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Last one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jason said: Ok I lied. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, Joe said: Ok I lied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I updated my province's data sheet. There are five other sheets that add greater detail (and have additional graphs, etc), but I am proud of the design of this: I also created a twitter account to expand beyond reddit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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