thewhyteboar Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Conservativism is mostly shared grievance It's "Why won't my adult children call me anymore?" the political party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Air_Delivery said: If conservative voters only see the world through weirdo conspiracy theories then this is probably the right's best plan for getting them vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 This “calling all prayer warriors” stuff drives me fucking bananas. ”SAVE ME JESUS” ***several vaccines show up in short order*** ”I’LL DO MY OWN RESEARCH JESUS” 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: This “calling all prayer warriors” stuff drives me fucking bananas. ”SAVE ME JESUS” ***several vaccines show up in short order*** ”I’LL DO MY OWN RESEARCH JESUS” "I bloody wept. I sent you fucks a fucking vaccine, what more do you want from me?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Man, there's a GoFundMe going around my Facebook feed where a guy and his wife were both in the ICU with covid, and the husband just died. Leaving three boys about ages 7-13. This shit just sucks. I don't care if they're chuds, this just sucks. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, thewhyteboar said: I'm beyond frustrated that none of the architects of covid deaths will face any punishment or repercussions. There is blood on the hands of Trump, Abbott, DeSantis, Fucker Carlson, and so many other Republicans. They lie to the gullible, or restrict their citizens from the commonsense methods that we know, we fucking know, work. Yet, nothing will happen to them. They won't be punished, they won't go to jail, they won't lose an election, they won't even get seriously fucking sick (because they are all vaccinated and have top of the line healthcare that their supporters don't have [seriously, almost every single one of those HCA posts say they lack insurance, what a fucked up country]). I don't want regular people to die. No matter how racist, stupid, or gullible they are, they don't deserve death. Even though their actions can hurt the rest of us, they don't deserve to die. Their children don't deserve to grow up without a parent. And yet, the architects of death all deserve to choke on their own blood. I don't believe in an afterlife, nor do I believe that any reckoning is coming in this life, but if there is any justice in this world the Trump/Abbott/DeSantis/Carlson axis of evil bunch will die alone with no one to mourn them. The longer I live, the more I find myself sympathizing with stories of political figures being put in front of firing squads in public squares. Some crimes just deserve nothing less than barbaric revenge. That's a show I'd pay well for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Quote [A] Bedouin chief who, happening to visit the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allāh be on him), left his camel untethered outside the Prophet’s Mosque in his eagerness to have a meeting with the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allāh be on him). When he returned after his meeting, he found his she-camel had made off. In great consternation, he came back and related to the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allāh be on him) how he had left his she-camel to the care of Allāh and on his return after his meeting with him, discovered that she had run away. The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allāh be on him) observed: “Tether her first and then leave her to the care of God.” In short, in the Ḥadīth under review, the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allāh be on him) has, on the one hand, taught parents to have the foresight and wisdom to provide, so far as it lies in their power, for the subsistence of their children, and not to leave their dependents unsupported, and to make provision for their honorable living; and on the other, incidentally, has hinted by means of this Ḥadīth, that employment of overt means, in this behalf, does not, in any way, militate against the sense and spirit of tawakkul. One should, therefore, first take all the necessary measures so far as it lies in one’s power and is permitted by one’s resources, and then leave the result to God. No doubt, as I have stated above, it is a very difficult stand, for man is prone to over-incline to one side on account of his weakness; he either becomes so much devoted to overt means as to make them his god, or in utter defiance of these, he pins all his hope on God, so much so that he believes that, notwithstanding his complete rejection of the material means that God has made, He will nevertheless descend from the High Heavens to personally handle all his affairs. But the truth is that both these stands are untenable and contrary to the spirit of Islāmic teaching. The true philosophy which the virtuous in every age have followed lies in the observance of the maxim “Tether thy camel first and then leave her to the care of God.” Forty Gems of Beauty pp 160-161 It's an Islamic text but relevant to these anti-vaxx people. The vaccine, masks, and social distancing and precautions are the tether in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Man, there's a GoFundMe going around my Facebook feed where a guy and his wife were both in the ICU with covid, and the husband just died. Leaving three boys about ages 7-13. This shit just sucks. I don't care if they're chuds, this just sucks. I agree. I have my moments of 'yeah fuck you!' glee but ultimately most of these people got played by a completely callous system and leave complete familial destruction in their wake. Personal responsibility and all, yeah, but still, nobody wins and said system keeps mainlining these people straight destruction and death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Russ is the real MVP.* More Vaccines Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: I agree. I have my moments of 'yeah fuck you!' glee but ultimately most of these people got played by a completely callous system and leave complete familial destruction in their wake. Personal responsibility and all, yeah, but still, nobody wins and said system keeps mainlining these people straight destruction and death. Yeah. And they're lucky to have gotten to the $10k goal they've set but.... That seems wholly inadequate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Yeah. And they're lucky to have gotten to the $10k goal they've set but.... That seems wholly inadequate Politicians across the board must love the fact that they've tricked the American public into thinking begging online is more dignified and personal freedom than having a functioning healthcare system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, Bloodporne said: Politicians across the board must love the fact that they've tricked the American public into thinking begging online is more dignified and personal freedom than having a functioning healthcare system. That would be SOCIALISM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Russ is the real MVP.* More Vaccines Please Came up big for me in fantasy this past week. LET RUSS COOK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Sometimes I wonder if the people who run gofundme feel any sort of weird regret or remorse for the fact that they are now making massive profits off an easily avoidable parade of human cadavers. I know it was never the intent behind the site, but god damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said: Sometimes I wonder if the people who run gofundme feel any sort of weird regret or remorse for the fact that they are now making massive profits off an easily avoidable parade of human cadavers. I know it was never the intent behind the site, but god damn. Don't think so. They are probably like the funeral home with the truck that says don't get vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said: Sometimes I wonder if the people who run gofundme feel any sort of weird regret or remorse for the fact that they are now making massive profits off an easily avoidable parade of human cadavers. I know it was never the intent behind the site, but god damn. Business is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Well, anti-vax has finally hit home. I mentioned it here before, but we took in my wife's 18-year-old niece a month or so ago as her mom would no longer let her live in her house for free while she upgraded some classes to prepare for university. Today, the niece got a text from her 14-year-old brother, asking for her to pick him up from school. We said she could, but only if he was vaccinated (which he is not), or if they both wore masks. My wife then got a call from her sister and was reamed out over an "experimental" vaccine, how we were sheep, how it "only" kills 1% of people, etc. Our niece's dad texted her and said how dare she listen to her "no[sic] nothing nutjob aunt" over her own parents. Our niece is a good (if naïve and undereducated/ditzy) kid, and she's fully vaccinated and follows the news. Her parents are complete white trash, and unfortunately her brother is listening to them (I can't blame him, they are his parents). It's got to be very tough to start to see your parents as flawed, real people. We've told her it's not her fault that they are angry, and that she can throw us under the bus and put the blame on us. My wife is very upset, especially at her own sister saying she is tearing the family apart. No, you did that with your conspiracy nonsense. The sister even said something like "I know you have underlying conditions, but you'd be fine." Fuck off. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Good news. The U.S. Is Buying 500 Million More Pfizer Vaccine Doses To Donate To Other Countries WWW.NPR.ORG The pledge will come at the start of a virtual summit aimed at boosting commitments from other nations and the private sector. The goal: vaccinate 70% of the world's population within a year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Alberta asks Ottawa for help to airlift COVID-19 patients out of the province | CBC News WWW.CBC.CA The UCP government has formally requested help from the federal government to lessen pressure on Alberta's health-care system, which is overburdened with COVID-19 patients. It should be noted that Ottawa offered assistance weeks ago, but Kenney waited until the day after the election to accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, thewhyteboar said: Russ is the real MVP.* Does he have special vaccine water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Man, there's a GoFundMe going around my Facebook feed where a guy and his wife were both in the ICU with covid, and the husband just died. Leaving three boys about ages 7-13. This shit just sucks. I don't care if they're chuds, this just sucks. Man I have no empathy still. When black and brown kids are missing fathers due to systemic issues they tell is it's our fault and our problems and they ask why our community can't get our shit together. I really really don't give a shit anymore about people like this because I know of it was another AIDS epidemic, crack epidemic, great depression, they would be wagging their fingers at us. Same with the middle America drug abuse that was/is going on, I don't have enough fucks about white problems like this anymore. And I KNOW there are antivax Brown people, as far as I care they can burn with the rest of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Cases, Data, and Surveillance WWW.CDC.GOV Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19. Covid hospitalization and death is not a white problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Cases, Data, and Surveillance WWW.CDC.GOV Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19. Covid hospitalization and death is not a white problem. COVID Data Tracker COVID.CDC.GOV CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website. Depends on how you look at it. And again, I'm speaking about antivaxxers specifically. And no sympathy regardless of color. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Cases, Data, and Surveillance WWW.CDC.GOV Cases, data, and surveillance to track and analyze COVID-19. Covid hospitalization and death is not a white problem. Not in the slightest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: COVID Data Tracker COVID.CDC.GOV CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website. Depends on how you look at it. And again, I'm speaking about antivaxxers specifically. And no sympathy regardless of color. I know PLENTY of black anti-vaxxers personally... I know people who have gotten vaccinated and are hesitant to get boosters or get their kids vaccinated because of online bullshit. Dealing with this in my family RIGHT NOW after my sister nearly got my parents infected when they went to visit her and her unvaccanated kids all got Covid. Luckily my parent were both vaccinated and didn't get it. Ironically my sister had just gotten her first shot after MONTHS of hesitency so she didn't get it either. In fact, no one who was vaccinated in that house got Covid. Her oldest daughter who is a nursing student not only didn't get Covid because she was vaccinated fully, she took over the quarantine protocols in the house and prevented it from spreading. My goofy assed nephews only got it because they used the one bathroom they weren't supposed to use There's a whole generation of Black people particularly under the age of 40 who are vaccine hesitant largely due to social media and misinformation. BTW the guy who I mentioned in the earlier post who was the coworker of my buddy in Jacksonville who died because he refused to get vaccinated was black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I know PLENTY of black anti-vaxxers personally... I know people who have gotten vaccinated and are hesitant to get boosters or get their kids vaccinated because of online bullshit. Dealing with this in my family RIGHT NOW after my sister nearly got my parents infected when they went to visit her and her unvaccanated kids all got Covid. Luckily my parent were both vaccinated and didn't get it. Ironically my sister had just gotten her first shot after MONTHS of hesitency so she didn't get it either. In fact, no one who was vaccinated in that house got Covid. Her oldest daughter who is a nursing student not only didn't get Covid because she was vaccinated fully, she took over the quarantine protocols in the house and prevented it from spreading. My goofy assed nephews only got it because they used the one bathroom they weren't supposed to use There's a whole generation of Black people particularly under the age of 40 who are vaccine hesitant largely due to social media and misinformation. Yeah it's disgusting. I went to a barber and he did wear a mask but turns out he was vax hesitant. I was like 😐😐😐 since I realized this halfway through the haircut and he had knifes to my head. Later we were talking about meat and I mentioned I love medium rare, he only likes well done but "as long as I don't make him sick" he would try medium rare. I was like, the fucking fool can't see the irony. He was overweight and definitely in a high risk category. Just an average dude who likes football and beer, nothing malicious, still a fool. (Great barber tho!) Like, I get that there's misinformation out there, but.. are you going to do this, your whole life? My sister isn't vaxxed, so she's out until she is. No heart to humor these people. If my approach "makes them feel bad" then so be it. Get the fucking shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Bloodporne said: Politicians across the board must love the fact that they've tricked the American public into thinking begging online is more dignified and personal freedom than having a functioning healthcare system. I remember having a conversation with a co-worker who was a conservative Christian and when I asked him why he was opposed to Obamacare at the time or Government funded healthcare in general he told me that it's not the Government's role to take care of people or something to that effect. He literally said that it was up to the "community" and charities to take care of the sick and needy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 40 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: COVID Data Tracker COVID.CDC.GOV CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website. Yes. Read the footnotes of the link I posted, this in particular should help to better understand the data Quote Note: Adjusting by age is important because risk of infection, hospitalization, and death is different by age, and age distribution differs by racial and ethnic group. If the effect of age is not accounted for, racial and ethnic disparities can be underestimated or overestimated. Pre-vaccine a lot of elderly white people died, because in the oldest age ranges white people were over indexed. But comparing age adjusted, you can see how a Black or brown person is far more likely to be hospitalized and die from Covid than their white peers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, SuperSpreader said: Yeah it's disgusting. I went to a barber and he did wear a mask but turns out he was vax hesitant. I was like 😐😐😐 since I realized this halfway through the haircut and he had knifes to my head. Later we were talking about meat and I mentioned I love medium rare, he only likes well done but "as long as I don't make him sick" he would try medium rare. I was like, the fucking fool can't see the irony. He was overweight and definitely in a high risk category. Just an average dude who likes football and beer, nothing malicious, still a fool. (Great barber tho!) Like, I get that there's misinformation out there, but.. are you going to go this, your whole life? My sister isn't vaxxed, so she's out until she is. No heart to humor these people. If my approach "makes them feel bad" then so be it. Get the fucking shot. Yeah the medium rare thing with us is crazy too. My mother will fuck up a good cut of steak if you let her and over cook the shit out of it. I told her her steaks taste like flavored shoes... they have a thing against seeing any kind of red in their meat. Shit, i always order my steaks rare because most restaurants are going to overcook them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I remember having a conversation with a co-worker who was a conservative Christian and when I asked him why he was opposed to Obamacare at the time or Government funded healthcare in general he told me that it's not the Government's role to take care of people or something to that effect. He literally said that it was up to the "community" and charities to take care of the sick and needy No one told him that the government is our form of community management. I go to the gym and and am one of the few people wearing masks, I definitely get some stares and judgement (all races), but while they judge and I squat 400lbs with a mask and they don't have shit to say and go from frowny faces to avoiding eye contact, no excuse for not wearing one. I fucking love lifting heavy in one. I feel like a monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Yeah the medium rare thing with us is crazy too. My mother will fuck up a good cut of steak if you let her and over cook the shit out of it. I told her her steaks taste like flavored shoes... they have a thing against seeing any kind of red in their meat. Shit, i always order my steaks rare because most restaurants are going to overcook them anyway. I just assumed it was my Dad who had terrible taste in steak temps, but maybe this is a part of older Black culture? Now that I think about it, Granny is the same way… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Food safety is one of those things that’s gotten dramatically better over the last 50 years and people don’t really appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I just assumed it was my Dad who had terrible taste in steak temps, but maybe this is a part of older Black culture? Now that I think about it, Granny is the same way… Mexicans are like that too. It's from growing up poor with meat that's more likely to be/go bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 Or.... Mostly having access to cheaper cuts of beef, that typically benefit for being cooked longer at lower temperatures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 There's disease in the rancho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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