Amazatron Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 So I guess they arrested some people for setting fires, and I’m already seeing the “see, it’s not climate change” posts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Amazatron said: So I guess they arrested some people for setting fires, and I’m already seeing the “see, it’s not climate change” posts... Well, to be fair, when you intentionally set several fires it's actually way worse than a natural fire. So yeah. It wasn't climate change if it was a bunch of arsonists. https://abcnews.go.com/International/24-australians-arrested-deliberately-setting-fires-season/story?id=68108272 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Well, to be fair, when you intentionally set several fires it's actually way worse than a natural fire. So yeah. It wasn't climate change if it was a bunch of arsonists. https://abcnews.go.com/International/24-australians-arrested-deliberately-setting-fires-season/story?id=68108272 I think it is maybe more accurate to say it wasn’t *just* climate change. The conditions, which certainly can be linked to climate change, are prime for big and fast moving blazes that are difficult to contain, even if the start of the fires is arson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Were the initial fires started by these arsonists, or were the fires already burning, and some dumb asses started more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Brick said: Were the initial fires started by these arsonists, or were the fires already burning, and some dumb asses started more? From articles I’ve read, these arson related cases go back to October and continued through the end of the year while the overall fire season began in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I think it is maybe more accurate to say it wasn’t *just* climate change. The conditions, which certainly can be linked to climate change, are prime for big and fast moving blazes that are difficult to contain, even if the start of the fires is arson. I agree. That's what I meant to communicate. The intensity is certainly due to drier conditions that are caused by climate change. The fault for the fire should go to the people that started them intentionally, though. Not climate change. Unless an arsonist has that as his legal name. Which would be kind of cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 It can be both things at the same time, but that is very difficult to explain to someone who doesn't want to believe climate change is real. Climate change won't start fires any more than it will start floods. It does, however, create the conditions for these things to be stronger or weaker. Areas can become hotter and drier (like Australia) so fires that start (for any reason) cannot be stopped. Likewise, in other areas it can create wetter climates, so there will be more flooding when rain happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: It can be both things at the same time, but that is very difficult to explain to someone who doesn't want to believe climate change is real. Climate change won't start fires any more than it will start floods. It does, however, create the conditions for these things to be stronger or weaker. Areas can become hotter and drier (like Australia) so fires that start (for any reason) cannot be stopped. Likewise, in other areas it can create wetter climates, so there will be more flooding when rain happens. But snow means climate change is bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 This is very fun to think about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Don't worry the rich will just donate to save us all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 18 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: @Puggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggles Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 16 hours ago, Jason said: @Puggles How did i not know this? I love wombats! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 17 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Don't worry the rich will just donate to save us all! Fuck Jeff Bezos with a rusty spoon. Greedy asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 17 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Don't worry the rich will just donate to save us all! this mother fucker couldnt even do $1M which he would make back in like 4 hours yet some IG model sold nudes and raised more than what he gave EAT THE FUCKING RICH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 An estimated hundreds of thousands of fish are dead in NSW after rain washed bushfire ash into the Macleay River Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gamer.tv Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 So now parts have started to flood due to the rain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, gamer.tv said: So now parts have started to flood due to the rain... That’s good isn’t it? The fires are over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 hours ago, SilentWorld said: That’s good isn’t it? The fires are over? Lack of vegetation to soak up the water will lead to mudslides and possible severe flooding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, chakoo said: Lack of vegetation to soak up the water will lead to mudslides and possible severe flooding. It's almost like climate change creates such large extremes in terms of too little water/too much water that moderation is out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 hours ago, SilentWorld said: That’s good isn’t it? The fires are over? LOL no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 https://www.npr.org/2020/01/20/797948411/destructive-hail-and-a-massive-dust-storm-descend-on-fire-ravaged-australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 So, are the fires gone or are they still fighting some? Once they got hit with rain, I have seen any updates about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 A C-130 tanker has crashed, killing the three person American crew Quote All large air tanker aircraft operations had been suspended for the rest of the day pending investigation into the crash, Mr Fitzsimmons said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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