Brick Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 3 hours ago, BloodyHell said: There are multiple versions over the last 80 years, the chemical bath Joker is definitely the most well-known, but I believethat appeared somewhere in the 70's-80's. But he was just a clown in makeup for the first 30 years or so. There is no correct version of him, he has more "origins" than any other villain or superhero I can think of. So we're both correct and both wrong, I guess? Uh no it wasn't. The first instance of the chemical bath was in a 1951 comic that tried to give him an official origin story, but before that there was nothing stating how he got his look, and nothing that definitively pointed to it being makeup, so of course it just seemed to be how his skin was naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 OMG The Joker actually says, "We live in a society" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnny Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 LMFAO i lost it at the society line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: Would have been better if Jason Alexander was making that tweet. 28 minutes ago, CayceG said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I actually thought that was a good trailer. Snyder clearly intentionally put the "We live in a society" line in, but you guys are being unfair cause Joker continues: "where honor is a distant memory" so it's not like he says the line by itself. I have no idea if the movie will be good but both trailers were pretty solid all told. Then again, I like most Snyder movies. Man of Steel is a legit good movie. Great? I think so. Amazing? No, I don't think so. But it's different, it has a unique voice and style, and great action. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a terrible movie. Poorly shot, scored, written. The director's cut is better but it doesn't make it a good movie, only a tolerable one. Justice League was a Frankenstein's monster of a movie. It's better than Batman v Superman by a good bit and there are some legit cool scenes in it. It was fun, but ultimately a pretty average and forgettable film. But there was good in there that, if expanded, could have made the movie actually good. So . . . we'll see. At least the movie seems different. I'm not ready to hate, and I like seeing artists get the chance to make the movie they wanted to make unimpeded. I mean, I really enjoyed Snyder's Dawn of the Dead remake, 300, and Watchmen: Director's Cut (along with Man of Steel). Even Sucker Punch (the director's cut at least) was well directed and cool and shit, even if it didn't come together as a movie. It's not like he's a bad filmmaker, he just needs good scripts. The only movie he's really written is Sucker Punch, and that explains the issues with that film. If you think about it, other than Batman v Superman and Sucker Punch, which movies of his really are outright bad (and I like Sucker Punch on a superficial and visceral level, it's a very cool movie that's well shot, etc.)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 DP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I'm just tired of Joker at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I don’t get why people think the Joker scene is so funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I don’t get why people think the Joker scene is so funny Because we love in a society... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 3 hours ago, CayceG said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: I don’t get why people think the Joker scene is so funny Yeah I don’t get what’s funny. I don’t get the reference at all. I thought that trailer was pretty awesome and has moved me from “meh I guess I’ll watch it” to “that’s looks awesome I’m there night 1” I fully expect no matter how good it is that this board will shit all over it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mercury33 said: Yeah I don’t get what’s funny. I don’t get the reference at all. I thought that trailer was pretty awesome and has moved me from “meh I guess I’ll watch it” to “that’s looks awesome I’m there night 1” I fully expect no matter how good it is that this board will shit all over it though. This board does have a hard on for hating on Snyder's aesthetic. It's weird, because after 300 came out, people were pumped a fan of Watchmen was directing Watchmen. Then Sucker Punch, Man of Steel, and Batman v Superman happened and the fanbase split and half of it started hating him. It's a shame, in a way. Unlike Joss Whedon, he's a consummate professional, no sexual misconduct, and is a passionate guy. He's not a perfect director, but why do two bad movies mean his entire filmography is ruined? At least he has a unique style and tone, etc. The scene with the Joker is theoretically funny because of the "we live in a society" Joker memes came out after the film Joker came out (a movie I love but fans are split on). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I looked up the “we live in a society” thing. I could not possibly have rolled my eyes any harder at the entire thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mercury33 said: I looked up the “we live in a society” thing. I could not possibly have rolled my eyes any harder at the entire thing. I mean I think it's funny but doesn't bring down Joker (the film) in my opinion. People really took it very far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: This board does have a hard on for hating on Snyder's aesthetic. It's weird, because after 300 came out, people were pumped a fan of Watchmen was directing Watchmen. Then Sucker Punch, Man of Steel, and Batman v Superman happened and the fanbase split and half of it started hating him. It's a shame, in a way. Unlike Joss Whedon, he's a consummate professional, no sexual misconduct, and is a passionate guy. He's not a perfect director, but why do two bad movies mean his entire filmography is ruined? At least he has a unique style and tone, etc. I am looking forward to JL, i haven't seen the original so it could be fun. As far as his other films well... His version of DOTD was not good compared to the original. He removed all the subtext of the original and turned it in to a basic bitch zombie film, its not terrible in what it does, just not great. He did the same thing with Watchmen but worse, granted its thats comic that never should have never been condensed in to film but still. MOS I really like, I love his version superman but there was few missed marks. BvS is bad levels of terrible, it feels like it was written by 50 writers and Lex is the least menacing villain in film maybe ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, SimpleG said: I am looking forward to JL, i haven't seen the original so it could be fun. As far as his other films well... His version of DOTD was not good compared to the original. He removed all the subtext of the original and turned it in to a basic bitch zombie film, its not terrible in what it does, just not great. He did the same thing with Watchmen but worse, granted its thats comic that never should have never been condensed in to film but still. MOS I really like, I love his version superman but there was few missed marks. BvS is bad levels of terrible, it feels like it was written by 50 writers and Lex is the least menacing villain in film maybe ever. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Most people really enjoy his remake of DOTD. It's not as good as the original, but James Gunn's screenplay is pretty solid and Snyder brings the directing skill (how weird that Gunn went on to do MCU stuff and Snyder is now doing DC stuff). Watchmen was an impossible adaptation. I'm glad it was as close to the graphic novel as it could be. Yes, it misses some of the subtext but he had to please a lot of different people at once (making a blockbuster movie with good action but also adapt the graphic novel). What'd you think of the owl CG movie and Sucker Punch and 300? And even as a Snyder apologist, I will never praise BvS. That movie sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Legend of the Guardians was fucking gorgeous. I don't really remember much about the actual movie, but fuck me was it beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Fizzzzle said: Legend of the Guardians was fucking gorgeous. I don't really remember much about the actual movie, but fuck me was it beautiful. It really has some of the best CG. Snyder killed it there, and a very different movie for him to do, good movie or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 snyder’s movies always look good. they are just mostly not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Ok, I looked it up and it is kind of amusing. But it also is reminder of how not online I am. I really don’t know almost any of these sorts of references 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 9 hours ago, johnny said: snyder’s movies always look good. they are just mostly not good. Pretty much this... he's all sizzle and no steak. That got him over for a couple of film, but Sucker Punch pretty much exposed him as a visual director with little interest in character and nuance. There are things I like about Man of Steel and things I loathe and the the things I loather were confirmed in his subsequent movies. He basically didn't get the DC heroes and is stuck in the grim and gritty era of comics and refuses to leave it. I'm gonna watch this cut of the film and I expect to see some great visuals, decent action and a lot of slow mo with power rock underscores... but that's about it. BTW I was a Snyder FAN. Loved his DOTD remake and 300. Was pretty lukewarm on everything after that He just hasn't grown that much as a director in my opinion outside of how much slow-mo he can stuff into a film. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 This video encapsulates my feeling about Snyder's worldview and how it's reflected in his work: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Greatoneshere Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 The fact that Snyder can inspire so much discussion means he's a more interesting filmmaker than Joss Whedon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: The fact that Snyder can inspire so much discussion means he's a more interesting filmmaker than Joss Whedon. There’s been a lot more ink spilled about the Buffyverse than there ever will about Snyder’s oeuvre, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Because Snyder has assaulted his all of his audiences just by making movies means there's no one left to come forward, we are all victims. Where as Whedon has brought us so much joy the only thing that's left are negative things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Because Snyder has assaulted his all of his audiences just by making movies means there's no one left to come forward, we are all victims. Where as Whedon has brought us so much joy the only thing that's left are negative things. Also, a non-trivial amount of Buffyverse discussion is not driven by men looking to score internet points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: There’s been a lot more ink spilled about the Buffyverse than there ever will about Snyder’s oeuvre, though. Hahaha, I can't disagree with that. But we're talking films, not television! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Hahaha, I can't disagree with that. But we're talking films, not television! Buffy started as a movie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jason said: Buffy started as a movie! And ended as an amazing Xbox game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: And ended as an amazing Xbox game. I really wish this would get ported or released digitally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jason said: Buffy started as a movie! Yeah, a bad one that Whedon has basically disowned, so that doesn't help Whedon in the film version of things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Yeah, a bad one that Whedon has basically disowned, so that doesn't help Whedon in the film version of things! Eh, it’s a “so bad it’s good” movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, Spork3245 said: Eh, it’s a “so bad it’s good” movie. Yeah, I'll agree to that. But then you could say the same for Batman v Superman . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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