skillzdadirecta Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Fuck, I am digging this show waaay more than I thought I ever could... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 My republican DC Comic friend watched the first episode and of course the first thing he says is he hates the Rorschach-White supremacy link lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Fuck, I am digging this show waaay more than I thought I ever could... Lindelof is good 3 hours ago, johnny said: My republican DC Comic friend watched the first episode and of course the first thing he says is he hates the Rorschach-White supremacy link lmao He needs to go back and read Rorschach's journal entries closer. I mean shit, I missed how fucked up and radical the writings were my first couple times through too. He's a fucking loon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, johnny said: My republican DC Comic friend watched the first episode and of course the first thing he says is he hates the Rorschach-White supremacy link lmao As much as I like aspects of Rorschach's character, he is clearly a right-wing alt-right white guy - he supports a far-right newspaper rag. Your friend's an idiot, or hasn't read Watchmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Anathema- said: Lindelof is good I like The Show... It doesn't change my feelings on the past work he's done that I've seen, which is most of it. 8 hours ago, johnny said: My republican DC Comic friend watched the first episode and of course the first thing he says is he hates the Rorschach-White supremacy link lmao He needs to read Alan Moore's feelings on Rorschach... he created the character as a parody. And Rorschach was definitely on the further right side of the spectrum. While I don't remember him being an overt racist, he was definitely a homophobe and had weird towards women. Him being a right wing icon, especially after his journal going public is not a stretch. I thank Snyder's movie for once again over simplifying a lot of what Moore was going for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Gonna throw my 2 cents in on all the conspiracy theories There is some timey wimey stuff going on and Veidt scenes seems to be out of sync with the rest of the show Veidt wasnt imprisoned by Dr Manhattan. A) He doesnt care enough to do it, B) Why would he wait until after Adrian sells his company to Lady Trieu to do that and IF he was going to he would have simply made him disappear at that moment. C) why provide him with a palatial estate and unlimited "help" His "imprisonment" is connect to Trieu's buying of his company Will was the Hooded Justice but this isnt the same Will.His connection with Trieu suggests he could be clone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Veidt is clearly on the moon. That's where his prison is... they pretty much show you that. The question is who put him there... probably Trieu and I suspect the thing she's building is probably some weapon against Dr. Manhattan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I suspect the thing she's building is probably some weapon against Dr. Manhattan. Its nefarious but I dont think its a weapon to be used against Manhattan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, SimpleG said: Gonna throw my 2 cents in on all the conspiracy theories There is some timey wimey stuff going on and Veidt scenes seems to be out of sync with the rest of the show Veidt wasnt imprisoned by Dr Manhattan. A) He doesnt care enough to do it, B) Why would he wait until after Adrian sells his company to Lady Trieu to do that and IF he was going to he would have simply made him disappear at that moment. C) why provide him with a palatial estate and unlimited "help" His "imprisonment" is connect to Trieu's buying of his company Will was the Hooded Justice but this isnt the same Will.His connection with Trieu suggests he could be clone. The farm couples baby was a clone. Veidt has clones. Trieu's daughter is probably a clone. Will is probably a clone. The museum story of Will says he has no children, so... Is his daughter also a clone? She had that whole legacy speech, I wonder how it's all connected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSpreader Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Maybe Angela died in that attack and is Angela Clone of Will 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Maybe the origin of the cloning procedure is the process Veidt used to create the fake aliens. He also created that cat creature he had in the comic too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 8 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I like The Show... It doesn't change my feelings on the past work he's done that I've seen, which is most of it. Watch The Leftovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Anathema- said: Watch The Leftovers. No... thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Rewatching the last episode and thinking about all the broken egg symbolism that keeps popping up. I'm wondering if it's more than symbolism and instead a sign of "divine intervention" which would be an easy echo of Jacob from LOST but instead in the form of Dr. Manhattan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Wooooooooow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Wooooooooow wat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 What's with HBO still being stuck in 1080p? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 58 minutes ago, Jose said: What's with HBO still being stuck in 1080p? Shit at least it's at 1080p... most broadcast cable is still 720p. Also Veidt IS on the moon... maybe his company is trying to rescue him hence the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I didnt know broadcast cable still existed lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: Shit at least it's at 1080p... most broadcast cable is still 720p. Also Veidt IS on the moon... maybe his company is trying to rescue him hence the message. It didn't look like THE moon but A moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Firewithin said: It didn't look like THE moon but A moon Pretty sure it's the moon... they all but showed it on last week's episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Firewithin said: It didn't look like THE moon but A moon It's the dark side of the moon, where the ice is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Jose said: I didnt know broadcast cable still existed lol. Checks clear pretty well from the stuff I cut for them so... yeah. It still exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Pretty sure it's the moon... they all but showed it on last week's episode. A moon that was orbiting Jupiter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 6 hours ago, 2user1cup said: wat That was a mind blowing episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 So they were playing Clair De Lune when Veidt escaped his prison and Careless Whisper right before Night made that same mistake. Someone out there is really thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 That was a great episode. Looking Glass's backstory was by far the highlight, but it was woven into the plot reveal so well that we got the history, insight into his current character and still got shot forward through the story. Really great stuff. I also continue to love Agent Blake. "We're the FBI, we bug stuff." I also kinda love that Abar/Lady Night has already gotten in trouble for her hiding stuff. I feel like so many shows have a protagonist that flouts the rules/the law and we're just supposed to root for them because they're investigating the mystery or whatever. I love that this show is so self aware of the inherent conflict of an officer going rogue. My bet after an earlier episode was that Veidt was on Mars, but a moon around Jupiter or our Moon, same difference. My question is why he would think that the satellite would be his salvation. I feel like only Dr Manhattan could have put him there and built that place, and only the government or Veidt's old company/Lady Trieu's company would be on the other side of that satellite, and I'm not sure why either would want to save him. Still, it'll be interesting to see how it goes from there. I guess Lady Trieu did seem to have a reverence for him, and the government is seemingly indebted to him (in that he kinda installed the President). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Anathema- said: A moon that was orbiting Jupiter. Are the moons of Jupiter visible from Earth? The reason why I think it's our moon is because on last week's episode, they did a dissolve edit from Veidt's prison to the actual moon in the sky which gave me the impression visually that he was on the moon. 25 minutes ago, TwinIon said: My question is why he would think that the satellite would be his salvation. I feel like only Dr Manhattan could have put him there and built that place, and only the government or Veidt's old company/Lady Trieu's company would be on the other side of that satellite, and I'm not sure why either would want to save him. Still, it'll be interesting to see how it goes from there. I guess Lady Trieu did seem to have a reverence for him, and the government is seemingly indebted to him (in that he kinda installed the President). Who is "D"? The message he spelled out was "Save Me D"... did he mean Dan as in Nite Owl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Are the moons of Jupiter visible from Earth? The reason why I think it's our moon is because on last week's episode, they did a dissolve edit from Veidt's prison to the actual moon in the sky which gave me the impression visually that he was on the moon. I don't think that dissolve was to be taken at face value. Probably what you were supposed to get out of that was that Veidt wasn't on Earth anymore. Also, I do know that Jupiter would not appear that large if Veidt were standing on our moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Are the moons of Jupiter visible from Earth? The reason why I think it's our moon is because on last week's episode, they did a dissolve edit from Veidt's prison to the actual moon in the sky which gave me the impression visually that he was on the moon. Yeah that's not a crazy thing to think but the symbolism goes deeper. It's less of a moon orbiting: It's more of a moon orbiting: It's almost certainly a hint as to whom his captor is, and likely a hint to the reason as to why he's captive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Yeah that's not a crazy thing to think but the symbolism goes deeper. It's less of a moon orbiting: It's more of a moon orbiting: It's almost certainly a hint as to whom his captor is, and likely a hint to the reason as to why he's captive. For the life of me I couldn't see why Jupiter would have any relevance or significance to this story until this post and I remembered the character's name... so yes That's certainly... symbolic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Also the furthest out moon orbits Jupiter every like, two weeks? Which would make Veidt's four year anniversary actually his two month anniversary, which probably goes toward explaining the time weirdness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Of course hand-creating a pressurized space suit (with no examples, no space race in Watchmen) from scratch in four full years is an amazing enough feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I do like that even Before Watchmen is canon now with that movie Looking Glass was watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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