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Comet Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 https://politics.theonion.com/they-can-t-arrest-both-of-us-says-giuliani-handcuffi-1838947437 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spawn_of_Apathy Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, marioandsonic said: Welp, pack it up folks. Trump won. I wish the left had crazy people who’s hatred far outweighed their desire to live. The Right seems to have an endless supply. Such a target rich environment for a crazed Liberal. ...fucking civility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jason said: didnt he pull the same shit with cohen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I mean, this is true for all rich kids, you don't have to be famous, those are just the easy to spot ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, marioandsonic said: Welp, pack it up folks. Trump won. I was actually wondering what the practical implications were...Schiff says the whistleblower doesn't need to testify because they already have all the info they need, but the optics seem pretty bad even if that's technically true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stepee Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 shut the fuck up joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jason said: Literally Trump is the reason you dumb fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 45 minutes ago, Jason said: Yeah I’m thinking to sell the legitimacy of the impeachment inquiry the whistleblower has to testify. And wtf did happen to whistleblower #2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Yeah I’m thinking to sell the legitimacy of the impeachment inquiry the whistleblower has to testify. And wtf did happen to whistleblower #2? Trump literally did what he's being accused of on live television by asking China for help, you don't even need the whistleblowers now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Yeah I’m thinking to sell the legitimacy of the impeachment inquiry the whistleblower has to testify. And wtf did happen to whistleblower #2? There is literally zero reason because the complaint was already verified before it became public. The only reason Trump wants the whistleblower to testify is so that he can get a name and then attempt to publicly crucify them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: There is literally zero reason because the complaint was already verified before it became public. The only reason Trump wants the whistleblower to testify is so that he can get a name and then attempt to publicly crucify them. Which would be retribution. Which would be illegal. Which means Attorney General Barr would have to pursue charges against Trump! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jason said: Trump literally did what he's being accused of on live television by asking China for help, you don't even need the whistleblowers now. Technically, you’re right, but this is a political process, not just a legal one. If it looks skewed or illegitimate in any way, public support for it will collapse and so will the political will to follow through with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Technically, you’re right, but this is a political process, not just a legal one. If it looks skewed or illegitimate in any way, public support for it will collapse and so will the political will to follow through with it. If Trump never _voluntarily_ released the memo outlining the details of the call, this argument would have muster. But by putting that out in there open the whistleblower is irrelevant. But plain as day, quid pro quo for dirt on the fail son in return for weapons sales to Ukraine. But support won't drop, impeachment numbers are close to Trump approvals, so lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If Trump never _voluntarily_ released the memo outlining the details of the call, this argument would have muster. But by putting that out in there open the whistleblower is irrelevant. But plain as day, quid pro quo for dirt on the fail son in return for weapons sales to Ukraine. But support won't drop, impeachment numbers are close to Trump approvals, so lol Remember we’re talking about a public with a three second long memory and a news cycle too fast for them to keep up with. Those support numbers are very fragile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 REVENGE OF THE #RAGEWALRUS BABY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 We can only hope for a Reservoir Dogs ending soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 He's been hiding that money from his wife in the divorce proceedings, BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarSolo Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 If he can’t drop literal bombs, Bolton is going to drop some metaphorical bombs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Technically, you’re right, but this is a political process, not just a legal one. If it looks skewed or illegitimate in any way, public support for it will collapse and so will the political will to follow through with it. 9 hours ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Remember we’re talking about a public with a three second long memory and a news cycle too fast for them to keep up with. Those support numbers are very fragile. Yeah, I still remember when voters forgot that something to do with emails revolved around Hillary and she became president while many Democratic Senate candidates rode her coattails into office and universal health care became a thing and men's penises grew everywhere because they could afford Viagra through health insurance. You guys can be insufferably defeatist sometimes. Everything Republicans say, no matter how dumb, will be masterful at swaying public opinion. Everything Trump does is 12D chess distractions even if those supposed distractions are laws he broke. Voters' memories being bad only ever applies to good things Democrats do and bad things Republicans do, nothing matters except if a Democrat does something or something looks skewed for Democrats, in which case voters will remember it and support will collapse permanently because the memories become good. Democrats overperforming by 5000 points in 2017 meant nothing. Obama/Romney was tight. Obama's gonna get assassinated before stepping into office. Democrats are gonna fuck up the 2006 midterms. You guys are this Simpsons episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I find life to be a lot simpler by believing everything is shit until something proves that it is not shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Jason said: 14 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Literally Trump is the reason you dumb fuck Maybe he means Donald trying to take Biden out as a political rival the the way he did why Donald is facing potential impeachment. So so he is sort of right. But only because Pelosi is a spineless shrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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