CitizenVectron 9,036 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CitizenVectron 9,036 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 They created the beast and are now under its control. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSpreader 2,831 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Republicans got everything they ever wanted. How's it taste? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSpreader 2,831 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 If the Senate does convict I'm sure the Proud Boys will be happy to spend their time at MarALago providing security. Trump and his mob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,369 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: If the Senate does convict I'm sure the Proud Boys will be happy to spend their time at MarALago providing security. Trump and his mob. I hope they do it. They'll learn quite quickly that Trump hates the plebes like them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CitizenVectron 9,036 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I still don't think conviction is likely, but who knows: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris- 2,208 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I mean, how is he wrong? Tribalism is so strong within the party that those folks are going to vote red no matter what, and there’s no chance a viable third-party would come to pass. Better the rip the bandaid off now and suffer relatively light consequences short term than allow him to remain a power vacuum within the party going into 2024. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 15,714 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Chris- said: I mean, how is he wrong? Tribalism is so strong within the party that those folks are going to vote red no matter what, and there’s no chance a viable third-party would come to pass. Better the rip the bandaid off now and suffer relatively light consequences short term than allow him to remain a power vacuum within the party going into 2024. He's not wrong, it's just hard to take him seriously that he's actually going to vote to convict while he's doing nothing but whining in private about Trump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn_of_Apathy 1,571 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 minutes ago, Chris- said: I mean, how is he wrong? Tribalism is so strong within the party that those folks are going to vote red no matter what, and there’s no chance a viable third-party would come to pass. Better the rip the bandaid off now and suffer relatively light consequences short term than allow him to remain a power vacuum within the party going into 2024. worst case scenario they fail to take back the senate in 2022, and can campaign against “liberalism run unchecked.” To try and get them to turn back out to the polls. I hope all Trumpers, feeling betrayed by the GOP and oppressed by the stealing Democrats, just stay home every election from here until they die. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 15,714 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 40 minutes ago, Jason said: He's not wrong, it's just hard to take him seriously that he's actually going to vote to convict while he's doing nothing but whining in private about Trump. Surprise! WaPo alert that McConnell won't reconvene the Senate for a trial before Trump is out of office. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Pickle 722 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 If I hear one more republican say the word unity I’m gonna punch my own face Quote Link to post Share on other sites
b_m_b_m_b_m 7,214 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Joe said: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kal-El814 6,614 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Let’s impeach him but also give him 7 more days to issue pardons as a treat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marioandsonic 1,424 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 How much longer are they debating this? Just vote already Quote Link to post Share on other sites
b_m_b_m_b_m 7,214 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mclumber1 3,360 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Republicans seem to be reserving their remaining time (about 20 minutes worth) until the very end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwinIon 2,206 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 If we had an honest, functional, and non-partisan congress during the whole of the Trump presidency, at what point would he have been impeached? There's been so much during these last four years it's hard to keep track. He's been dreadfully incompetent, hyper-partisan, consistently cruel, repeatedly bowed to enemies and inflamed allies, but other than these two impeachments, I'm having a hard time thinking of something else specific he should have been impeached for, but I feel like there must have been something. Tax fraud maybe? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BloodyHell 399 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, TwinIon said: If we had an honest, functional, and non-partisan congress during the whole of the Trump presidency, at what point would he have been impeached? There's been so much during these last four years it's hard to keep track. He's been dreadfully incompetent, hyper-partisan, consistently cruel, repeatedly bowed to enemies and inflamed allies, but other than these two impeachments, I'm having a hard time thinking of something else specific he should have been impeached for, but I feel like there must have been something. Tax fraud maybe? Being a man with baby hands. The Pee'd Upon President. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn_of_Apathy 1,571 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: they stormed the capitol because they are deathly afraid of black people who think the Police use harsher force against them on basis of race, and deathly afraid of Mexicans seeking citizenship? Interesting. I wonder if there is a prominent member of the Republican Party, the head of a branch of government who for more than 4 years might have been trying to implant and stoke the flames of those fears in people, in an effort to invoke an emotional response. Yelling “fire, fire! Horrible, life threatening fire” in a theater and setting off the alarm doesn’t become ok just because as people are panicking you tell them to remain calm and walk at a reasonable pace. The incitement has already happened. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn_of_Apathy 1,571 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 13 minutes ago, TwinIon said: If we had an honest, functional, and non-partisan congress during the whole of the Trump presidency, at what point would he have been impeached? There's been so much during these last four years it's hard to keep track. He's been dreadfully incompetent, hyper-partisan, consistently cruel, repeatedly bowed to enemies and inflamed allies, but other than these two impeachments, I'm having a hard time thinking of something else specific he should have been impeached for, but I feel like there must have been something. Tax fraud maybe? I think this sheds some light. He makes a case that impeachment doesn’t necessarily need to be because a criminal law was broken. It’s essentially our country’s version of the Legislative branch calling for a vote of no confidence in the President. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CitizenVectron 9,036 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Well, they crossed enough votes to impeach. Looks like 10 Republicans joined with the Democrats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwinIon 2,206 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: I think this sheds some light. He makes a case that impeachment doesn’t necessarily need to be because a criminal law was broken. It’s essentially our country’s version of the Legislative branch calling for a vote of no confidence in the President. I'm aware that he doesn't need to have committed a specific crime. I was just thinking about all the jokes about how (should he be removed) it's only a few years too late, and wondering if there were other times that a theoretical reasonable congress would have impeached him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subzwari1987 75 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 It happened. Second impeachment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CitizenVectron 9,036 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stepee 3,520 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 trump is the best one term twice impeached president EVER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Commissar SFLUFAN 20,561 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Christ, he's totally going to brag about that, isn't he? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marioandsonic 1,424 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Can't wait for the Senate to do nothing! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,369 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, marioandsonic said: Can't wait for the Senate to do nothing! This. Still, a second impeachment is great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mclumber1 3,360 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Just now, Greatoneshere said: This. Still, a second impeachment is great. It's better than nothing! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 15,714 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Christ, he's totally going to brag about that, isn't he? Obama couldn't even get impeached once, checkmate liberals. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PaladinSolo 2,179 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Why don't you guys want unity and just admit Biden stole the election and Trump is the God Emperor? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,369 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Just now, PaladinSolo said: Why don't you guys want unity and just admit Biden stole the election and Trump is the God Emperor? To be fair Donald Trump is beginning to look like God Emperor Leto Atreides II from God Emperor of Dune. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chairslinger 6,174 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: To be fair Donald Trump is beginning to look like God Emperor Leto Atreides II from God Emperor of Dune. Same number if chins... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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