Jason Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 https://www.newsweek.com/mgm-sues-over-1000-las-vegas-shooting-victims-avoid-liability-massacre-1027695 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 On what grounds are they suing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Yup, Judge shopping. It will probably work out for the casino. This country, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: On what grounds are they suing? That a federal law from 2002 negates any possible liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Was the venue even at fault? What should they have done differently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, ort said: Was the venue even at fault? What should they have done differently? If it helps, the headline kind of makes it sound like it's a preemptive lawsuit, but it's actually a countersuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 This is perfectly logical and good for society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ort said: Was the venue even at fault? What should they have done differently? The lawsuits have largely targeted the fact that security was lax enough for a guest to treat his room as an armory, bringing a dozen or so guns and thousands of round of ammo in and staging the whole massacre. The countersuit by MGM argues that a federal law removes any possible liability because the security firm they use is DHS certified. The suit isn’t seeking monetary damages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, sblfilms said: The lawsuits have largely targeted the fact that security was lax enough for a guest to treat his room as an armory, bringing a dozen or so guns and thousands of round of ammo in and staging the whole massacre. The countersuit by MGM argues that a federal law removes any possible liability because the security firm they use is DHS certified. The suit isn’t seeking monetary damages. I've been to casino hotels and regular hotels and never had my suitcases searched. Have you had security check your suitcases or bags checked at a hotel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: The lawsuits have largely targeted the fact that security was lax enough for a guest to treat his room as an armory, bringing a dozen or so guns and thousands of round of ammo in and staging the whole massacre. The countersuit by MGM argues that a federal law removes any possible liability because the security firm they use is DHS certified. The suit isn’t seeking monetary damages. Amazingly enough this article is apparently less egregious about withholding all of the necessary context than even the origination newspaper's current article. Here's a NY Daily News article about this someone on Facebook linked (it's an MSN link but it as the NY Daily News logo at the top). That's basically just re-reporting a Las Vegas Review-Journal article about this that came out yesterday. That article, in turn, has this as its second paragraph: Quote The company, which owns Mandalay Bay and the Route 91 Harvest festival venue, argues that it cannot be held liable for Oct. 1 deaths, injuries or other damages, adding that any claims against MGM parties “must be dismissed,” according to complaints filed Friday in Nevada and California. The link is to an article from November from the same publication titled Lawsuit filed on behalf of 450 Las Vegas shooting victims. Now I'm not necessarily blaming the Las Vegas Review-Journal for bad reporting, because fair enough that (I'm assuming) they didn't want to waste time or space retreading information they're figuring their readers already know about. If anything I wish more news reporting would just assume you're already knowledgeable and provide a link for those who aren't, instead of wasting half the article reestablishing everything every time. But anyhow if you don't know about the existing lawsuit(s) it reads like they're preemptively suing regarding theoretical future lawsuits, not in response in an actual lawsuit that's already been filed against them--so I'm guessing there's a lot of re-reporting of the article from yesterday where nobody bothered to click through to see where the "claims against MGM parties" link went. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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