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Of course we should try to do everything we can to combat this issue from all side. Better gun laws. Easier access to mental health. Etc. Anytthing that can help, even if just a little, should be done.

 

But I’m afraid that these will just be band aids over the gaping wounds of America that have been festering for decades. Something is deeply wrong with our culture, and true change is going I have to come from more than just simple policy.

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25 minutes ago, sexy_shapiro said:

Of course we should try to do everything we can to combat this issue from all side. Better gun laws. Easier access to mental health. Etc. Anytthing that can help, even if just a little, should be done.

 

But I’m afraid that these will just be band aids over the gaping wounds of America that have been festering for decades. Something is deeply wrong with our culture, and true change is going I have to come from more than just simple policy.

 

Unfortunately, we'll likely have to wait until after the Boomers die and then again after the Gen X folks are outnumbered by Millennials and whatever we're calling the generation after them. Those that actually went to school during this era will remember what training for school shootings is like and will likely want to do something about it for their kids.

 

I don't want to imagine the kind of tragedy that would have to befall us to force any real cultural change earlier than that.

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On 9/1/2019 at 11:36 PM, Ghost_MH said:

 

Unfortunately, we'll likely have to wait until after the Boomers die and then again after the Gen X folks are outnumbered by Millennials and whatever we're calling the generation after them. Those that actually went to school during this era will remember what training for school shootings is like and will likely want to do something about it for their kids.

 

I don't want to imagine the kind of tragedy that would have to befall us to force any real cultural change earlier than that.

This won’t get better with the boomers and gen xers dying off. Sure some laws may change, but you’ll still have tons of messed up people (the actually perpetrators), far more then the previous generations. Coddled, medicated (since kindergarten), adult children, Ill prepared for the “hard ships” of life. The methods of “lashing out” may change, but the “lashing out” will continue.

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An interesting article on the decline of the serial killer.  

 

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There are plenty of structural explanations for the rise of reported serial murders through the 1980s. Data collection and record-keeping improved, making it easier to find cases of serial murder. Law enforcement developed more sophisticated methods of investigation, enabling police to identify linkages between cases—especially across states—that they would have otherwise ignored. The media’s growing obsession with serial killers in the 1970s and ‘80s may have created a minor snowball effect, offering a short path to celebrity.

 

Many of today's mass shooters will cite past mass shooter's "score" when they carry out their own attacks.  Hopefully mass shootings become less frequent, just as serial killings did as well.  

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57 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

An interesting article on the decline of the serial killer.  

 

 

Many of today's mass shooters will cite past mass shooter's "score" when they carry out their own attacks.  Hopefully mass shootings become less frequent, just as serial killings did as well.  

Ah, the new plan to create a safer society. Just wait for it to get better on its own. 

 

The FBI estimates there are 20-50 active serial killers in the US. Many attribute the decline in hitchhiking having an effect in decreasing the amount of serial killings. 

 

What societal behavior needs to decline decline to curb mass shootings? The complete disappearance of physical retail shopping? The elimination of all group schooling, going to a 100% home school model where each family is responsible for educating their own kids inside their own house? 

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19 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said:

Ah, the new plan to create a safer society. Just wait for it to get better on its own. 

 

The FBI estimates there are 20-50 active serial killers in the US. Many attribute the decline in hitchhiking having an effect in decreasing the amount of serial killings. 

 

What societal behavior needs to decline decline to curb mass shootings? The complete disappearance of physical retail shopping? The elimination of all group schooling, going to a 100% home school model where each family is responsible for educating their own kids inside their own house? 

 

I don't know the answer on how to curb mass shootings.  

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1 hour ago, mclumber1 said:

An interesting article on the decline of the serial killer.  

 

 

Many of today's mass shooters will cite past mass shooter's "score" when they carry out their own attacks.  Hopefully mass shootings become less frequent, just as serial killings did as well.  

Dude, at any given time there are at least 25 active serial killers operating in the U.S. THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT. I doubt that there's been a "decline in serial killers" that may be the perception but there's a lot of them out there that go unnoticed and un-caught because they prey on marginalized, vulnerable communities and a lot of times Law Enforcement doesn't even make the connection that a lot of unsolved murders are the work of the same individual especially if that person changes methods, locations and victim profiles.  I don't know where the perception that there's been a decline in the serial killer population came from.  If the general public knew how many of these guys are actually out there, a lot more people would be locking their doors.

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42 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

I don't know the answer on how to curb mass shootings.  

 

If only we could figure how people commit mass shootings in the first place. Like, what weapon they’re using to do the mass shootings?

 

Are they using bug spray? Powder? Steel chairs? Once we figure out the weapon used in these mass shootings we can solve the problem.

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1 minute ago, MarSolo said:

 

If only we could figure how people commit mass shootings in the first place. Like, what weapon they’re using to do the mass shootings?

 

Are they using bug spray? Powder? Steel chairs? Once we figure out the weapon used in these mass shootings we can solve the problem.

 

Pistols accounted for 4 of the 8 mass shootings this year.  If you want to broaden your definition of what a mass shooting is, pistols make up an overwhelming majority of these incidents.  Banning ARs and AKs will not curb mass shootings.

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12 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

Pistols accounted for 4 of the 8 mass shootings this year.  If you want to broaden your definition of what a mass shooting is, pistols make up an overwhelming majority of these incidents.  Banning ARs and AKs will not curb mass shootings.

Only 50% of this year!:lol:

 

ok, then ban all. Jk but kinda like shooting yourself in the foot.  With a handgun of course

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43 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

The government can't ban them anymore than they can ban free speech.  It's baked into the constitution.  

 

No but they CAN regulate them... like they regulate free speech. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater and claim that you're exercising your right to free speech. It's been done before... a lot of frontier town in the Old West banned firearms within city limits because of all the shootings and people largely abided the law. Also the right to vote and birth right citizenship are "baked into the constitution" too. That's not stopping conservatives from challenging BOTH.

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1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said:

 

No but they CAN regulate them... like they regulate free speech. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater and claim that you're exercising your right to free speech. It's been done before... a lot of frontier town in the Old West banned firearms within city limits because of all the shootings and people largely abided the law. Also the right to vote and birth right citizenship are "baked into the constitution" too. That's not stopping conservatives from challenging BOTH.

Well yeah, because brown people are the real cause of mass shootings, because white people are so mad about brown people they have no choice but to shoot children and shopping centers. The only thing we can do is do everything to ban brown people from this country. 

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15 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said:

Well yeah, because brown people are the real cause of mass shootings, because white people are so mad about brown people they have no choice but to shoot children and shopping centers. The only thing we can do is do everything to ban brown people from this country. 

Sadly, that's not far from the actual rationale...

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1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said:

 

No but they CAN regulate them... like they regulate free speech. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater and claim that you're exercising your right to free speech. It's been done before... a lot of frontier town in the Old West banned firearms within city limits because of all the shootings and people largely abided the law. Also the right to vote and birth right citizenship are "baked into the constitution" too. That's not stopping conservatives from challenging BOTH.

Not to be an ass but 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/264449/.

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8 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

 Do me a favor... go to a movie theater and yell "fire" during the showing and then when the cops show up to arrest you, show them this article. Report back to me the results.

You’ll most likely get trespassed and sent on your way.

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1 hour ago, sblfilms said:

You’ll most likely get trespassed and sent on your way.

 

OR, you'll get arrested for inciting a riot if people trample each other trying to run out of the theater... either way, there would be legal repercussions. 

18 minutes ago, SimpleG said:

Nothing other then management might ask me to leave.

Go try it... let me know how it works out.

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23 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Wanna bet? Mitch threw it back in Trump's court today which is smart for him to do. If Trump doesn't act, Mitch won't... give you three guesses what Trump is gonna do.

Keep tweeting about Deborah Messing and totally forget that 90% of the population wants UBC?

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23 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

 

OR, you'll get arrested for inciting a riot if people trample each other trying to run out of the theater... either way, there would be legal repercussions. 

Go try it... let me know how it works out.

You certainly could be arrested for it if the police don’t know the law, but you can’t be prosecuted for it. 

 

As a slight aside, we’ve had fire alarms go off at the theater (stupid vaping kids) and we still had to walk into each auditorium to ask people to step outside until the fire department gave the all clear :lol:

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