TheGreatGamble Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, sblfilms said: But dead old people’s guns then go to not dead not old people. Who knows where they go? I have no problem with it, I’m just saying, very few are giving up their guns willingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Try the buyback first then confiscate if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: Somehow instead of "uSA", I hit "ISA" in predictive text on my phone. Don't ask me what it means, just a typo. I had read that Canada was estimated at 35m, but then just now read its estimated to be 21m. But they don't even know, just like here in the USA. There are millions of unrecorded guns all over NA> I think one of the largest differences is that the majority of guns in Canada are farm/rural-based, as well. Not unusual for a farmer to have 2-3 guns for hunting, etc. Also a higher % of long guns vs pistols, compared to the states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: It's not a buy-back, it's confiscation. You can call it that if you want to be honest. Not if it’s voluntary. If it was involuntary, there would be mass outrage. Either way, I’d never comply with an order to turn in my guns. Not going to happen. My guns are not a danger to anyone. Never have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I think one of the largest differences is that the majority of guns in Canada are farm/rural-based, as well. Not unusual for a farmer to have 2-3 guns for hunting, etc. Also a higher % of long guns vs pistols, compared to the states. Personally, I still believe it’s culture. The hate at both extremes of the political system in the USA is driving this terrorism, imo. Young white men are finding a community they BELIEVE cares about them in these groups, and feel empowered by it. Hate is a most powerful motivator. im sure Canada has some hate, but not near the flood of it the USA has right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Try the buyback first then confiscate if necessary. No, we are not going to ignore our second amendment rights and allow our weapons to be taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 The fact that grown adults actually believe that "rights" exist and use that as a seemingly valid argument is embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: The fact that grown adults actually believe that "rights" exist and use that as a seemingly valid argument is embarrassing. They exist in the framework of the law as it stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: No, we are not going to ignore our second amendment rights and allow our weapons to be taken. You aren't entitled to every form or type of weapon, and even depending on where you live there would be some guns that are and are not legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: They exist in the framework of the law as it stands. Which means they exist as "privileges" that have been granted by "authority" and not "rights" that exist outside of that authoritative grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Which means they exist as "privileges" that have been granted by "authority" and not "rights" that exist outside of that authority. That’s fair, and I agree it’s an esoteric term, not unlike laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: You aren't entitled to every form or type of weapon, and even depending on where you live there would be some guns that are and are not legal. Yup, and those bans are being litigated in the Supreme Court, and so far, they have all been struck down when taken on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 The supreme Court only decides what is lawful at this time. It won't hold up forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The supreme Court only decides what is lawful at this time. It won't hold up forever. I do feel like we are in a transitional generation. I’m 33, live in the burbs of Houston, and the vast majority of my peers don’t own guns and have never even fired one. The hardcore 2Aers will begin to dwindle over time and the culture will change. But it is probably still grand or great grand kids of mine who will grow up in an America with more sensible gun culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: But it is probably still grand or great grand kids of mine who will grow up in an America with more sensible gun culture. Whatever climate change-ravaged hellscape they will be growing up in certainly won't be "America". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, sblfilms said: But it is probably still grand or great grand kids of mine who will grow up in an America with more sensible gun culture. I have my doubts this Republic will last that long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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