Bloodporne Posted July 30, 2019 Author Posted July 30, 2019 I haven't read much about it but this trailer positively reeks of a potential Lovecraft fest, one to do his material justice maybe for once based on the aesthetics and Eggers' spot-on handling of the folklore in The Witch. Quote
Bloodporne Posted July 30, 2019 Author Posted July 30, 2019 Paging @Greatoneshere and @skillzdadirecta Anyone wanna nerd the fuck out on the cinematography or anything else, yeah? Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 Looks like it was shot 4:3 rather than traditional 16:9... I'm curious to see what they shot this with. I wonder if they filmed this with some old school black and white film stock. I LOVED The Witch so I'm all over this. EDIT:Yeah it was shot on old school black and white 35mm... like old school horror movies. Nice On another note this brings to mind a "debate" we had on these boards a couple of years ago when I told several posters here that unlike in the past, it's just as easy to shoot in color and convert it to black and white in post than it is to stage, and shoot in black and white to begin with. I was told I didn't know what I was talking about despite being a post professional for the last 15 years This article confirms what I said back then and highlights why shooting on 35mm black and white for this film is such a big deal. Quote It’s called The Lighthouse and stars Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson. But more interesting still is it looks like the film will be shot on 35mm black and white film stock. “I’m currently on location in Nova Scotia, Canada, cutting Robert Eggers’ second film, The Lighthouse, which stars Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson,” Ford told Mandy. “It’s set in 1890, and we’re shooting on 35mm black and white stock, virtually unheard of nowadays. Most black and white movies are shot in colour and then converted to black and white in post. The dailies look beautiful; it’s very exciting.” 1 Quote
Bloodporne Posted July 30, 2019 Author Posted July 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Looks like it was shot 4:3 rather than traditional 16:9... I'm curious to see what they shot this with. I wonder if they filmed this with some old school black and white film stock. I LOVED The Witch so I'm all over this. From what I've read, they used actual, or at least partially, old school equipment and lenses. I'll edit if I can find the quote. Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Bloodporne said: From what I've read, they used actual, or at least partially, old school equipment and lenses. I'll edit if I can find the quote. I found a quote and edited my post. They shot with old 35mm film and probably used some really cool lenses. Quote
Bloodporne Posted July 30, 2019 Author Posted July 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Looks like it was shot 4:3 rather than traditional 16:9... I'm curious to see what they shot this with. I wonder if they filmed this with some old school black and white film stock. I LOVED The Witch so I'm all over this. EDIT:Yeah it was shot on old school black and white 35mm... like old school horror movies. Nice On another note this brings to mind a "debate" we had on these boards a couple of years ago when I told several posters here that unlike in the past, it's just as easy to shoot in color and convert it to black and white in post than it is to stage, and shoot in black and white to begin with. I was told I didn't know what I was talking about despite being a post professional for the last 15 years This article confirms what I said back then and highlights why shooting on 35mm black and white for this film is such a big deal. Deep-dive with the cinematographer from Kodak's website. I admittedly don't understand a lot of this jargon but it still fascinates me. Also, I really like the idea of at least attempting to be "true" to the period, it's lovely. I've recorded a few albums in my time and I love vintage recording techniques and equipment so I can really get into shit like this when looking at film despite not really knowing the technical details. I don't know if it's how the shadows are photographed in this format or what, but it almost looks like he's using some pretty old school makeup as well based on some stills. Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: Deep-dive with the cinematographer from Kodak's website. I admittedly don't understand a lot of this jargon but it still fascinates me. Also, I really like the idea of at least attempting to be "true" to the period, it's lovely. I've recorded a few albums in my time and I love vintage recording techniques and equipment so I can really get into shit like this when looking at film despite not really knowing the technical details. I don't know if it's how the shadows are photographed in this format or what, but it almost looks like he's using some pretty old school makeup as well based on some stills. I have a buddy who engineers audio and he prides himself on being able to get an "analog sound using digital techniques" so I get what you're saying. Quote
Greatoneshere Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 48 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: On another note this brings to mind a "debate" we had on these boards a couple of years ago when I told several posters here that unlike in the past, it's just as easy to shoot in color and convert it to black and white in post than it is to stage, and shoot in black and white to begin with. I was told I didn't know what I was talking about despite being a post professional for the last 15 years No one said it wasn't possible, just that it wasn't easy. A post-conversion job (The Mist, Mad Max: Fury Road) is very obviously different looking than The Good German, which was shot with old lenses and cameras, etc. Your characterization isn't accurate of the previous debate, and I at least stand by my point that there are major differences and that while changing colors is easy, it doesn't look the same as shooting for black and white. Separately, this looks fantastic, been looking forward to it since getting positive reviews on the festival circuit, and The Witch was awesome. I look forward to this. Quote
Guest Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: Looks like it was shot 4:3 rather than traditional 16:9... I'm curious to see what they shot this with. I wonder if they filmed this with some old school black and white film stock. I LOVED The Witch so I'm all over this. EDIT:Yeah it was shot on old school black and white 35mm... like old school horror movies. Nice On another note this brings to mind a "debate" we had on these boards a couple of years ago when I told several posters here that unlike in the past, it's just as easy to shoot in color and convert it to black and white in post than it is to stage, and shoot in black and white to begin with. I was told I didn't know what I was talking about despite being a post professional for the last 15 years This article confirms what I said back then and highlights why shooting on 35mm black and white for this film is such a big deal. You STILL don’t get what was being argued Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, sblfilms said: You STILL don’t get what was being argued Of course I don't because I'm an idiot... Quote
Firewithin Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 looks like a really good twilight zone episode Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Bloodporne said: What have I done... Don't worry about it... I'm over it. 19 minutes ago, Firewithin said: looks like a really good twilight zone episode That is a great description... they probably were inspired by the show a may have used some of the same lenses. Quote
Mercury33 Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 Oh oh oh lemme jump in if we’re digging up old debates... 99.9% of the population is too stupid to understand sequels or potential sequels The Last Jedi sucked because they didn’t use any of my fab fiction ideas that I tweeted them. Man of Steel sucked because “it’s not my Superman 😭” Halloween sucked because @Emblazon said so and not what critics and the public thought. That’s all I can think of right now haha 1 Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 Something about this film invokes comparisons with the Return of the Obra Dinn for me. 1 Quote
Guest Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Don't worry about it... I'm over it. Says the dude who brought up a years old discussion 4 hours ago, Bloodporne said: What have I done... Really short version: some people expressed ambivalence towards the recent trend of black and white releases of movies shot for color in a thread about the Logan b&w re-release. Skillz insisted that because most b&w movies or scenes are shot in color and post converted to b&w that there is no difference. Others argues that the process of properly shooting for b&w is different than for color because you have to draw contrast primarily from brighter or darker elements in the frame, while color photography can also rely on contrasting visual elements with different colors. Fast forward to today and he brings up this discussion and points out what the editor of this film said as proof of his point...which has nothing to do with what was being argued about. If anything the beautiful Hitchcockian photography in this film highlights exactly what was being discussed as missing in productions that convert to b&w as an afterthought. But he’s over it, so we can move right along Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 Just now, sblfilms said: Says the dude who brought up a years old discussion Really short version: some people expressed ambivalence towards the recent trend of black and white releases of movies shot for color in a thread about the Logan b&w re-release. Skillz insisted that because most b&w movies or scenes are shot in color and post converted to b&w that there is no difference. Others argues that the process of properly shooting for b&w is different than for color because you have to draw contrast primarily from brighter or darker elements in the frame, while color photography can also rely on contrasting visual elements with different colors. Fast forward to today and he brings up this discussion and points out what the editor of this film said as proof of his point...which has nothing to do with what was being argued about. If anything the beautiful Hitchcockian photography in this film highlights exactly what was being discussed as missing in productions that convert to b&w as an afterthought. But he’s over it, so we can move right along No Skillz insisted that MOST PEOPLE wouldn't know the difference. Skillz also proved it at the time by posting several examples of things that Skillz himself had shot... some were shot in Black and White and Some were converted to Black and white really quickly and sloppily I might add and NONE of the guys arguing against the point I was making including YOU, couldn't tell the difference. Why? Because post conversion techniques and color grading for black and white have gotten SO GOOD that most people wouldn't be able to tell ESPECIALLY when watching on the internet and via YOUTUBE which compresses the ever living FUCK out any image that is posted. What I argued back then, and the point that the article I posted confirms, is that nowadays... most films, even the ones that are intended to be in black and white, are shot in color and then converted because it gives the filmmakers far more control over the image with todays tools. it's easier to take something away than to add something that isn't there (In this case color information) What's far more important to the look of THIS particular film is the vintage lenses that they more than likely used, the type of film stock, and the art direction that they used on set. Quote
Guest Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: and the art direction that they used on set. Ok, you finally agree. Thanks for taking 2 years to come around to the point we were making in the first place. Now you can really be over it. Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: Ok, you finally agree. Thanks for taking 2 years to come around to the point we were making in the first place. Now you can really be over it. If you say so... I never argued otherwise. You're smarter than me... congratulations. Quote
Guest Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 Never mind. So, this flick looks amazing and A24 continues to be the most interesting distributor going. Quote
Brick Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 This looks spectacular. I'll need to see this in theatres. Quote
Emblazon Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Mercury33 said: Oh oh oh lemme jump in if we’re digging up old debates... 99.9% of the population is too stupid to understand sequels or potential sequels The Last Jedi sucked because they didn’t use any of my fab fiction ideas that I tweeted them. Man of Steel sucked because “it’s not my Superman 😭” Halloween sucked because @Emblazon said so and not what critics and the public thought. That’s all I can think of right now haha So you're saying Revenge of the Sith is one of the best Star Wars movies? And Titanic is the second best movie of all time? 1 Quote
Brick Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Revenge of the Sith is the best of the prequels at least Quote
Bloodporne Posted July 31, 2019 Author Posted July 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Mercury33 said: Oh oh oh lemme jump in if we’re digging up old debates... 99.9% of the population is too stupid to understand sequels or potential sequels The Last Jedi sucked because they didn’t use any of my fab fiction ideas that I tweeted them. Man of Steel sucked because “it’s not my Superman 😭” Halloween sucked because @Emblazon said so and not what critics and the public thought. That’s all I can think of right now haha I hated Halloween more than @Emblazon Fuck that stupid movie. And I'm siding with Skillz just because he posted in my thread first and I'm street loyal, I don't actually care about that argument. 1 Quote
Emblazon Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 48 minutes ago, Brick said: Revenge of the Sith is the worst of the prequels, and is ever so slightly ahead of the holiday special. Fixed. I still have to watch this trailer. Big fan of A24, and it's getting to a point where I'll watch anything they put out. Quote
SoberChef Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Emblazon said: Fixed. I still have to watch this trailer. Big fan of A24, and it's getting to a point where I'll watch anything they put out. Pretty much this, not to mention Dafoe being present & still putting out amazing work! Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Bloodporne said: I hated Halloween more than @Emblazon Fuck that stupid movie. And I'm siding with Skillz just because he posted in my thread first and I'm street loyal, I don't actually care about that argument. I appreciate the ride or die but I actually liked Halloween a lot too Quote
Guest Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 I’m not much into the series but enjoyed New Halloween quite a bit. Quote
Bloodporne Posted July 31, 2019 Author Posted July 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I appreciate the ride or die but I actually liked Halloween a lot too 1 Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Bloodporne said: You still my dawg 1 Quote
Mercury33 Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 New Halloween was the perfect way to borrow from the original source and what made it great while giving it a fun new twist that makes you watch the movie in a whole new way once it happens. Only horror movie better last year was Mandy 1 Quote
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