CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: It was a joke Except for a black Ariel...? No, she has no issue with a black Ariel, when did I indicate she did? Quote
Spork3245 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 1 minute ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: No, she has no issue with a black Ariel, when did I indicate she did? Had a brain fart and misunderstood Here's the thing, it is unquestionable that there are people upset and posting nonsense about "Dutch origins", "deep sea creatures wouldn't be black because they're under the water and wouldn't evolve that way", "if it were a historically black character that a movie made white, there'd be outrage!", etc that's going around. Is it a significant amount of the population? No, of course not and no one would ever argue as such. But it does exist and has been going strong enough in the cesspool that is social media, and the people spouting this crap should be called out on it. Quote
IdeaOfEvil Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Here's the thing, it is unquestionable that there are people upset and posting nonsense about "Dutch origins" Yikes... I certainly would rather be a woman hater than a racist. But now I don't know where I fall on the D1P troll-a-meter =/ c'est la vie Quote
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Had a brain fart and misunderstood Here's the thing, it is unquestionable that there are people upset and posting nonsense about "Dutch origins", "deep sea creatures wouldn't be black because they're under the water and wouldn't evolve that way", "if it were a historically black character that a movie made white, there'd be outrage!", etc that's going around. Is it a significant amount of the population? No, of course not and no one would ever argue as such. But it does exist and has been going strong enough in the cesspool that is social media, and the people spouting this crap should be called out on it. If I see it, I'll likely call it out. Quote
number305 Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 I think people need to back away from the notion that anyone who voted for Trump is a racist. I mean you are talking about half the country. We need to avoid the trap of thinking that if we disagree we have to vilify and hate. Quote
Keyser_Soze Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, IdeaOfEvil said: Yikes... I certainly would rather be a woman hater than a racist. But now I don't know where I fall on the D1P troll-a-meter =/ c'est la vie If all the users on the site were you you'd be #1 in woman hating. Quote
Spork3245 Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, IdeaOfEvil said: Yikes... I certainly would rather be a woman hater than a racist. But now I don't know where I fall on the D1P troll-a-meter =/ c'est la vie But you aren’t using it as an excuse to be upset about a black actor playing a mermaid Quote
IdeaOfEvil Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: If all the users on the site were you you'd be #1 in woman hating. If everyone was me, I'd be #1 My head hurts... Quote
Spork3245 Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 3 hours ago, IdeaOfEvil said: If everyone was me, I'd be #1 My head hurts... It’d be a large tie Quote
Jason Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 Why are we posting childhood pictures of Zuckerberg? Quote
Greatoneshere Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 14 hours ago, number305 said: I think people need to back away from the notion that anyone who voted for Trump is a racist. I mean you are talking about half the country. We need to avoid the trap of thinking that if we disagree we have to vilify and hate. I didn't say half the country, it's more like 35% of the American electorate that bothers to vote. It's a significant but specific subset (an immovable one, apparently), not "half" the country. And if, 2.5 years into this presidency with a president who clearly wants to build a hate monument at our southern border, has killed migrant children in detention camps due to his immigration policies (the number is 7 dead and rising, I believe), denied black people housing and still believes the Central Park Five should be punished "for something", and wants to perma-ban Muslims from the country (and has now successfully done so to some degree), uh, yeah, that makes you a racist. No question. Those are just some examples, I could go on for hours. Some Trump voters have said it themselves: cruelty is the point. That deserves villification and hate, 100%. Let's have some accountability here. Explain to me, genuinely, how it doesn't. Because with all the evidence I have from Trump's entire life, much less the last 3 years, the onus is now on you to explain how supporting such a person at this juncture doesn't make you complicitly racist to one degree or another. Quote
Guest Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I didn't say half the country, it's more like 35% of the American electorate that bothers to vote. It's a significant but specific subset (an immovable one, apparently), not "half" the country. And if, 2.5 years into this presidency with a president who clearly wants to build a hate monument at our southern border, has killed children in detention camps due to his immigration policies, denied black people housing and still believes the Central Park Five should be punished "for something", and wants to perma-ban Muslims from the country (and has now successfully done so to some degree), uh, yeah, that makes you a racist. No question. Those are just some examples, I could go on for hours. Some Trump voters have said it themselves: cruelty is the point. That deserves villification and hate, 100%. Let's have some accountability here. Explain to me, genuinely, how it doesn't. You view the group as monolithic. This is the lazy way to understand a group, and you’re not a lazy thinker! Quote
Greatoneshere Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, sblfilms said: You view the group as monolithic. This is the lazy way to understand a group, and you’re not a lazy thinker! But I'm not - I even said in an earlier post in this thread that still supporting Trump puts you on the sliding scale of racism - it doesn't mean you are specifically against a black Ariel, but you're probably racist in one way or another, this is incontrovertibly true at this point to me. If I'm wrong, explain to me how my post you quoted is incorrect, if I'm missing something it should be easy enough to explain to me heh. I also added more to that post if that helps while you were quoting me. Quote
Keyser_Soze Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I didn't say half the country, it's more like 35% of the American electorate that bothers to vote. It's a significant but specific subset (an immovable one, apparently), not "half" the country. How about this self proclaimed not white supremacist taking a picture giving the white power sign with Duncan Hunter? https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/conservative-activist-at-center-of-controversial-photo-with-rep-duncan-hunter-talks-to-news-8/509-2cdb8f97-b27d-43d2-ab95-abae2a240c6d Quote
Bloodporne Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 I can start role-playing Outraged Racist Ariel Fanatic With Disney Tattoos Who Works At A Call Center In Ohio so you guys have someone to really rage against, any takers? Quote
Greatoneshere Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 I was being genuinely honest - I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how I'm being wrong in my characterization of a certain group - @sblfilms and @number305 tell me I'm clearly and easily wrongly - so surely someone can explain to me what I'm missing? Quote
Spork3245 Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: I was being genuinely honest - I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how I'm being wrong in my characterization of a certain group - @sblfilms and @number305 tell me I'm clearly and easily wrongly - so surely someone can explain to me what I'm missing? 1 3 Quote
Ominous Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 This is the most outrageous race swap since Jesus. Quote
Greatoneshere Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Spork3245 said: I still have yet to receive an explanation or response, despite being told I'm so very clearly wrong. Puzzling. Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I still have yet to receive an explanation or response, despite being told I'm so very clearly wrong. Puzzling. Just drop it. Quote
Greatoneshere Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Just drop it. Happy too, I was just genuinely asking. Quote
Keyser_Soze Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Greatoneshere said: Happy too, I was just genuinely asking. Didn't we have a similar conversation except it was with boyle, just go re-read that thread. 1 Quote
number305 Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 10:08 AM, Greatoneshere said: I was being genuinely honest - I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how I'm being wrong in my characterization of a certain group - @sblfilms and @number305 tell me I'm clearly and easily wrongly - so surely someone can explain to me what I'm missing? Sorry man, I have been off the site for a bit. I really don't care enough to get into a debate. So I'm gonna drop it. I have yet to see anyone's mind changed about religion or politics on the internet so I just don't see any purpose in discussing it. 1 Quote
johnny Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 I was at a party last night and a few people were NOT okay with this. “If Tiana was cast as a white person people would lose their shit”. “Black people don’t have natural red hair” “Ariel is WHITE” Me: Ariel is a drawing “A WHITE drawing” 1 Quote
Greatoneshere Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 "Ariel is a drawing" is next level trolling by you on them. Love it. Quote
SuperSpreader Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 4 hours ago, johnny said: I was at a party last night and a few people were NOT okay with this. “If Tiana was cast as a white person people would lose their shit”. “Black people don’t have natural red hair” “Ariel is WHITE” Me: Ariel is a drawing “A WHITE drawing” hahahahahhahahhahahaahahhahaha Infantile bitches Quote
johnny Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: "Ariel is a drawing" is next level trolling by you on them. Love it. 2 hours ago, 2user1cup said: hahahahahhahahhahahaahahhahaha Infantile bitches It’s amazing how one person will be ignorant enough to say it and then other people (and people you wouldn’t even expect) come out in agreement. Our president may be blatantly racist but there are still so many people who keep it on the low until they feel like it’s safe to share their dumb thoughts. Quote
SuperSpreader Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, johnny said: It’s amazing how one person will be ignorant enough to say it and then other people (and people you wouldn’t even expect) come out in agreement. Our president may be blatantly racist but there are still so many people who keep it on the low until they feel like it’s safe to share their dumb thoughts. It's the little mermaid you Peter pan adults, get over it. 1 Quote
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