Inside the Secret Border Patrol Facebook Group Where Agents Joke About Migrant Deaths and Post Sexist Memes (NSFW)

[SaysWho?]

https://www.propublica.org/article/secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-agents-joke-about-migrant-deaths-post-sexist-memes

 

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Members of a secret Facebook group for current and former Border Patrol agents joked about the deaths of migrants, discussed throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress visiting a detention facility in Texas on Monday and posted a vulgar illustration depicting Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez engaged in oral sex with a detained migrant, according to screenshots of their postings.

 

 

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“These comments and memes are extremely troubling,” said Daniel Martinez, a sociologist at the University of Arizona in Tucson who studies the border. “They’re clearly xenophobic and sexist.”

 

The postings, in his view, reflect what “seems to be a pervasive culture of cruelty aimed at immigrants within CBP. This isn’t just a few rogue agents or ‘bad apples.’”

 

 

 

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The Border Patrol Facebook group is the most recent example of some law enforcement personnel behaving badly in public and private digital spaces. An investigation by Reveal uncovered hundreds of active-duty and retired law enforcement officers who moved in extremist Facebook circles, including white supremacist and anti-government groups. A team of researchers calling themselves the Plain View Project recently released a hefty database of offensive Facebook posts made by current and ex-law enforcement officers.

 

And in early 2018, federal investigators found a raft of disturbing and racist text messages sent by Border Patrol agents in southern Arizona after searching the phone of Matthew Bowen, an agent charged with running down a Guatemalan migrant with a Ford F-150 pickup truck. The texts, which were revealed in a court filing in federal court in Tucson, described migrants as “guats,” “wild ass shitbags,” “beaners” and “subhuman.” The messages included repeated discussions about burning the migrants up.

 

[Anathema-]

When we staff the cbp, we’re not sending our best people. 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Anathema- said:

When we staff the cbp, we’re not sending our best people. 

 

When CBP sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

[Keyser_Soze]

It’s like people who are eager to get the job do so because they are racist 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said:

It’s like people who are eager to get the job do so because they are racist 

 

But who were too dumb and brutish to qualify for regular policing jobs.

[thewhyteboar]

Trump isn't the problem, Trump is a symptom of the problem.

[Ghost_MH]

Don't you guys worry. These guys have promised to investigate themselves.

[Anathema-]

9 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said:

Trump isn't the problem, Trump is a symptom of the problem.

 

Symptom slash enabler. 

[brucoe]

What really gets me is not that these border patrol guys were racist or that they said stupid shit. What gets me is the amount of hatred generated at AOC because of "reasons". Over the last few weeks, I've never read so much hatred generated at one woman because she actually cares about issues that involve socialism, which usually involves the rights of people and basic dignity. Yet, they treat her like she's advocating bringing in the very worst possibilities of civilization due to some strange belief that socialism is inherently evil, even though the majority of Americans have absolutely no concept of what socialism is or even that it might actually  be the greatest thing THEY could ever imagine for themselves, and I'm not even a socialist who realizes that.

[Jason]

31 minutes ago, brucoe said:

What really gets me is not that these border patrol guys were racist or that they said stupid shit. What gets me is the amount of hatred generated at AOC because of "reasons". Over the last few weeks, I've never read so much hatred generated at one woman because she actually cares about issues that involve socialism, which usually involves the rights of people and basic dignity. Yet, they treat her like she's advocating bringing in the very worst possibilities of civilization due to some strange belief that socialism is inherently evil, even though the majority of Americans have absolutely no concept of what socialism is or even that it might actually  be the greatest thing THEY could ever imagine for themselves, and I'm not even a socialist who realizes that.

 

They hate her because she's a brown woman but she also makes them horny and they obviously can't handle the cognitive dissonance of it all. 

[Keyser_Soze]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

They hate her because she's a brown woman but she also makes them horny and they obviously can't handle the cognitive dissonance of it all. 

 

It's a conflict they've had ever since Salma Hayek was in From Dusk Till Dawn

[Greatoneshere]

23 minutes ago, Jason said:

They hate her because she's a brown woman but she also makes them horny and they obviously can't handle the cognitive dissonance of it all. 

 

It's a lot of this. These (primarily) "men" are too stupid and brutish to have thoughts beyond cruelty and fucking, so one seens their conundrum. It's not like they deal with philosophy and existential dread. They want to bang hot minorities but hate them at the same time. I can't imagine the kind of porn these types of people watch . . .

 

And that picture of Trump and AOC - I'd been warned but it's so much worse than I thought. Fucking gross.

[thewhyteboar]

Every single one of these agents should be fired. Trump will probably give them medals.

[Commodore D]

1 hour ago, brucoe said:

What really gets me is not that these border patrol guys were racist or that they said stupid shit. What gets me is the amount of hatred generated at AOC because of "reasons". Over the last few weeks, I've never read so much hatred generated at one woman because she actually cares about issues that involve socialism, which usually involves the rights of people and basic dignity. Yet, they treat her like she's advocating bringing in the very worst possibilities of civilization due to some strange belief that socialism is inherently evil, even though the majority of Americans have absolutely no concept of what socialism is or even that it might actually  be the greatest thing THEY could ever imagine for themselves, and I'm not even a socialist who realizes that.

 

Haven't been paying attention to the hate Ivanka Trump gets huh? Even the woman you mentioned hates on her at ever opportunity.

[Greatoneshere]

5 minutes ago, Commodore D said:

 

Haven't been paying attention to the hate Ivanka Trump gets huh? Even the woman you mentioned hates on her at ever opportunity.

 

The false equivalency game, how quaint.

[Jason]

6 minutes ago, Commodore D said:

 

Haven't been paying attention to the hate Ivanka Trump gets huh? Even the woman you mentioned hates on her at ever opportunity.

 

[Commodore D]

Just now, Greatoneshere said:

 

The false equivalency game, how quaint.

 

Naw, its not. Its a woman that gets unwarranted hate and is disparage for "reasons." With the main and possibly only reason is because of sack from which she originated (no choice of hers). 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Commodore D said:

 

Naw, its not. Its a woman that gets unwarranted hate and is disparage for "reasons." With the main and possibly only reason is because of sack from which she originated (no choice of hers). 

 

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

 

[Greatoneshere]

4 minutes ago, Commodore D said:

 

Naw, its not. Its a woman that gets unwarranted hate and is disparage for "reasons." With the main and possibly only reason is because of sack from which she originated (no choice of hers). 

 

You're a dishonest debater so I'm not getting into this with you. 99% of the rest of the board agrees with me that it is a false equivalency, a major one, so to me your opinion is irrelevant. 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

No one would care about Ivanka if not for her being a personal representative of Trump in somewhat official capacity of the United States government and surrogate by virtue of being his spawn.

[SaysWho?]

7 minutes ago, Commodore D said:

 

Naw, its not. Its a woman that gets unwarranted hate and is disparage for "reasons." With the main and possibly only reason is because of sack from which she originated (no choice of hers). 

 

bOtH sIdEs

[Commodore D]

Just now, Greatoneshere said:

 

You're a dishonest debater so I'm not getting into this with you. 99% of the rest of the board agrees with me that it is, so to me your opinion is irrelevant. 

 

Talk about debating dishonestly. You drive by comment on something that wasn't direct to you, then say you won't get into because blah blah blah (again not something you were asked to do). 

 

There was no reason to comment in that case. Just ignore it, its pretty easy to do. 

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

No one would care about Ivanka if not for her being a personal representative of Trump and surrogate by virtue of being his spawn.

 

Look at the difference in how people talk about Ivanka and Tiffany, and how people barely even talk about Tiffany. People would talk shit about Tiffany too if she inserted herself the way Ivanka does. The idea that people hate on Ivanka purely because of who her father is is absurdly easy to disprove. 

[Greatoneshere]

8 minutes ago, Commodore D said:

 

Talk about debating dishonestly. You drive by comment on something that wasn't direct to you, then say you won't get into because blah blah blah (again not something you were asked to do). 

 

There was no reason to comment in that case. Just ignore it, its pretty easy to do. 

 

It wasn't a drive by comment. You're making a false equivalency, and almost everyone in this thread will agree with me. This makes you wrong. The argument is over, there's nothing to debate at that point. What more confirmation do I need? For you to submit? Why? You never will, that's what makes you a dishonest debater. People on this board have seen me admit I'm wrong or that I don't know something plenty of times, whereas if you're so far gone you can't see the difference between Ivanka Trump and AOC, you can't be helped. 

 

The fact almost everyone else here will agree with me is all I need at that point. But it wasn't a drive by comment, and I'm pretty sure I don't have to ignore anything I don't want to (or, in the alternative, I can ignore anything I want to as well). You've only shown to be a terrible person politically with almost every post you've made I've ever read, so continue living in whatever world makes you think the way you do. 

[Commodore D]

3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

No one would care about Ivanka if not for her being a personal representative of Trump in somewhat official capacity of the United States government and surrogate by virtue of being his spawn.

 

Don't disagree with that at all (same could have been and probably was said about the Kennedy kids, especially Bobby). Though the hate that she gets (like from the lady mentioned) is largely because of that, not on her abilities or previous work or accomplishments.

 

 

[Commodore D]

2 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

It wasn't a drive by comment. You're making a false equivalency, and almost everyone in this thread will agree with me. This makes you wrong. The argument is over, there's nothing to debate at that point. What more confirmation do I need? For you to submit? Why? You never will, that's what makes you a dishonest debater. People on this board have seen me admit I'm wrong or that I don't know something plenty of times, whereas if you're so far gone you can't see the difference between Ivanka Trump and AOC, you can't be helped. 

 

The fact almost everyone else here will agree with me is all I need at that point. But it wasn't a drive by comment, and I'm pretty sure I don't have to ignore anything I don't want to (or, in the alternative, I can ignore anything I want to as well). You've only shown to be a terrible person politically with almost every post you've made I've ever read, so continue living in whatever world makes you think the way you do. 

Funny, especially because all my "terrible" political post pre-2016  came true. You know, the ones that were claimed so stupid by the 99% . You all seem continue to be on the failing side of reality. 

 

I will continue to live the life I have been because of how I think. I've been blessed to have that work for me so far.

[Greatoneshere]

2 minutes ago, Commodore D said:

Funny, especially because all my "terrible" political post pre-2016  came true. You know, the ones that were claimed so stupid by the 99% . You all seem continue to be on the failing side of reality. 

 

I will continue to live the life I have been because of how I think. I've been blessed to have that work for me so far.

 

That's fine by me. I have no idea who you are so whatever "pre-2016" posts you were right about is irrelevant to me. We're all crazy and you're the only right one. Suuuuuure. That logic tracks. 

[Commodore D]

(Stop insulting people. Keep it calm and friendly. Disagreements are fine. Insults are not.)--legospaceman

[Keyser_Soze]

52 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

 I have no idea who you are so whatever "pre-2016" posts you were right about is irrelevant to me.

 

You don't remember Führer D?

[RedSoxFan9]

these people wouldn’t have a problem with turning their concentration camps into death camps

[SuperSpreader]

 

Keep Being America 

[brucoe]

I cleaned up the thread a bit as it was getting out of hand. I left the criticism of my post, which I'm fine with (even if I disagree), but please refrain from the insults as it just derails threads.

[SaysWho?]

35 minutes ago, brucoe said:

I cleaned up the thread a bit as it was getting out of hand. I left the criticism of my post, which I'm fine with (even if I disagree), but please refrain from the insults as it just derails threads.

 

I seriously forgot you were a mod. Reminds me of the IGN days.

 

[Greatoneshere]

37 minutes ago, brucoe said:

I cleaned up the thread a bit as it was getting out of hand. I left the criticism of my post, which I'm fine with (even if I disagree), but please refrain from the insults as it just derails threads.

 

Not sure how me responding to hate and stupidity with truth (it IS a false equivalency) with directness deserved to be deleted too. bOthSides??

[brucoe]

58 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

Not sure how me responding to hate and stupidity with truth (it IS a false equivalency) with directness deserved to be deleted too. bOthSides??

Sometimes what someone quotes includes the parts that caused the thread to go out of hand. Try not to take it personally.