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Writer E. Jean Carroll accuses Trump of rape

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http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/president-donald-trump-faces-new-rape-accusation.html

 

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When Carroll meets Donald Trump in Bergdorf Goodman, the encounter starts as a friendly one. Trump recognizes her as “that advice lady”; Carroll recognizes him as “that real-estate tycoon.” Trump tells Carroll that he’s there to buy a gift for “a girl,” and though we don’t learn the identity of this mystery woman, Carroll places the ensuing incident in late 1995 or early 1996, during which time Trump was married to Marla Maples. When Trump asks Carroll to advise him on what to buy, she agrees, and the two eventually make their way to the lingerie section. Trump suggests a lace bodysuit and encourages Carroll to try it on; she, deflecting, jokingly suggests that he try it on instead. After they reach the dressing rooms, events turn violent. In Carroll’s account, Trump shoves her against a wall inside a dressing room, pulls down her tights, and, “forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me.”

 

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Carroll is now at least the 16th woman to accuse Donald Trump of sexual misconduct and the 14th to accuse Moonves of similar offenses. The incidents, which date from the 1990s, are highly specific and related with dark humor. Moonves is compared by Carroll to an octopus, and Trump, she writes, “yammers about himself like he’s Alexander the Great ready to loot Babylon.” But she is clear, sometimes clinical, about the violence she experienced. Moonves frantically kisses and gropes her in a hotel elevator moments after she finished interviewing him for an article. The Trump story is even darker.

 

Carroll says that she disclosed the Trump incident to two friends at the time. One, whom Carroll describes as “a journalist, magazine writer, correspondent on the TV morning shows, author of many books, etc.,” told her to go to the police: “‘He raped you,’ she kept repeating when I called her. ‘He raped you. Go to the police! I’ll go with you. We’ll go together.’” The other, who is also a journalist, was sympathetically cautious: “‘Tell no one. Forget it! He has 200 lawyers. He’ll bury you.’” Carroll writes that the Donna Karan coat-dress she wore that day “still hangs on the back of my closet door.” She wore it for the first time since the attack for her portrait session with New York for the cover, above.

 

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When you're famous they just let you do it.

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thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me

 

This is just a sinister burn on Trump.

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6 minutes ago, CayceG said:

 

This is just a sinister burn on Trump.

 

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Sao how long until Trump has a rally and calls her an ugly ghoul that he wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole?

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1 minute ago, MarSolo said:

Sao how long until Trump has a rally and calls her an ugly ghoul that he wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole?

 

You forgot the part where he says he doesn't know her. 

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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

You forgot the part where he says he doesn't know her. 

 

I wish more people would bring up the fact that he raped his first hag wife.

 

And hey, when you're right, you're right!

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

You forgot the part where he says he doesn't know her. 

You forgot the part where logical inconsistencies do not matter

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54 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

This is just . . . 

 

Well. I hope society cares this time. 

 

Narrator - “It didn’t.”

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1 hour ago, Greatoneshere said:

This is just . . . 

 

Well. I hope society cares this time. 

 

The NYT buried this in the books section.

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Kind of amazing how quickly a credible rape accusation against the president can be tossed aside.

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27 minutes ago, TwinIon said:

Kind of amazing how quickly a credible rape accusation against the president can be tossed aside.

 

It's not newsworthy when we already know he's a rapist. 

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When politicians cease to respond to so-called accountability from the press, the press stops caring. They only want to act like a check on our government when it's fun. Trump sucks the fun out of credible rape accusations so they're bored with it.

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21 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

 

Does that mean he has rape "type"?

 

:hmm:

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21 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Young (at the time, blonde, pretty(again). Ya, not his type at all. He hasnt talked about fucking his young, pretty, blonde daughter 

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Someone should show him pictures of his first wife currently and say "she was your type at one point". 

 

But of course, they won't, because civility.

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I've concluded that it would take video footage of Trump raping someone for it to be newsworthy. Even then,  he would have a good 35% of the country fully behind him.

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4 minutes ago, Massdriver said:

I've concluded that it would take video footage of Trump raping someone for it to be newsworthy. Even then,  he would have a good 35% of the country fully behind him.

 

She deserved it doe

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“You’re fascinating to talk to...”

 

She does realize that Cooper is interested in men right? That seemed like she was hitting on him. 

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1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

 

Correct. That is the most disturbing thing when guys say that around me as a defense for people like Trump. 

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I wonder what would have made this story get more traction, or if we're so doomed that nothing really matters anymore.

 

Did it really matter that this was in the New Yorker Magazine, and not the Times or the Post? 

 

She certainly seems credible enough.

 

Is the problem that it was 20 years ago?

 

Or is Trump being a rapist just a thing we all either know or reject?

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19 minutes ago, TwinIon said:

I wonder what would have made this story get more traction, or if we're so doomed that nothing really matters anymore.

 

Did it really matter that this was in the New Yorker Magazine, and not the Times or the Post? 

 

She certainly seems credible enough.

 

Is the problem that it was 20 years ago?

 

Or is Trump being a rapist just a thing we all either know or reject?

 

 

If no one cared one bit about the other 19 women (or whatever it was) why would they care about this one? The Republican base has proven they don't care. All of their moral highroading through the years has been 100% proven to be complete and total horseshit. They don't actually care about any of it. They are just playing a game and Trump has proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 

The teachings of Christ and Donald Trump are in direct opposition to each other. They do not overlap. You cannot be for both and have even a sliver of integrity.

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48 minutes ago, TwinIon said:

I wonder what would have made this story get more traction, or if we're so doomed that nothing really matters anymore.

 

Did it really matter that this was in the New Yorker Magazine, and not the Times or the Post? 

 

She certainly seems credible enough.

 

Is the problem that it was 20 years ago?

 

Or is Trump being a rapist just a thing we all either know or reject?

Yes.

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