Mitch "I Deserve to Die" McConnell says granting statehood to DC and Puerto Rico would be "full bore Socialism."

[CitizenVectron]

 

Asshat. 

[thewhyteboar]

To Republicans, socialism is just anything they don't like. Stub your toe? Socialism. Burn your toast? Socialism. Clog your toilet? Socialism. 

[SaysWho?]

"God, they want four new Democratic Senators. Not fair and not right. BTW, I love that there are two Dakotas for no reason."

[Bacon]

The real reason is that they don't want to add more stars to the flag. 

[Remarkableriots]

2 minutes ago, Bacon said:

The real reason is that they don't want to had more stars to the flag. 

How do you had more stars to the flag?

[Bacon]

1 minute ago, Remarkableriots said:

How do you had more stars to the flag?

By being an idiot 

[Remarkableriots]

8 minutes ago, Bacon said:

By being an idiot 

 

[Jason]

 

[mclumber1]

I have no problem granting statehood to Puerto Rico, but you can gtfo of here with this DC statehood nonsense.  I oppose it on several grounds, but mostly because it would wreck the 23rd Amendment, and none of the proposals for DC statehood try and fix this problem. 

[CitizenVectron]

19 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

I have no problem granting statehood to Puerto Rico, but you can gtfo of here with this DC statehood nonsense.  I oppose it on several grounds, but mostly because it would wreck the 23rd Amendment, and none of the proposals for DC statehood try and fix this problem. 

 

And if you really want to do a non-statehood fix, you can just make the populated area of D.C. part of Maryland. 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

35 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

I have no problem granting statehood to Puerto Rico, but you can gtfo of here with this DC statehood nonsense.  I oppose it on several grounds, but mostly because it would wreck the 23rd Amendment, and none of the proposals for DC statehood try and fix this problem. 

Shrink the district to the WH, Congress, scotus, and national Mall/monuments. It would have no permeant population, by law, and homeless could be given citizenship as citizens of the District State, (or they could be given homes in the District State as part of a housing first anti-homeless initiative) so no electors would be able to meet in the district to perform duties as directed by the twelfth amendment.

 

No residents, no electors, no problem.

 

Hell, per the DC code (which I just looked up while searching for the qualifications of presidential electors) you have to be a bona fide resident of the district for a period of 3 years immediately preceding the date of the presidential election. So no residents means no qualified electors, means no vote for president.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Just now, CitizenVectron said:

 

And if you really want to do a non-statehood fix, you can just make the populated area of D.C. part of Maryland. 

Neither DC nor Maryland want this.

[mclumber1]

28 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Shrink the district to the WH, Congress, scotus, and national Mall/monuments. It would have no permeant population, by law, and homeless could be given citizenship as citizens of the District State, (or they could be given homes in the District State as part of a housing first anti-homeless initiative) so no electors would be able to meet in the district to perform duties as directed by the twelfth amendment.

 

No residents, no electors, no problem.

 

Hell, per the DC code (which I just looked up while searching for the qualifications of presidential electors) you have to be a bona fide resident of the district for a period of 3 years immediately preceding the date of the presidential election. So no residents means no qualified electors, means no vote for president.

 

Your plan seems sketchy, and would be challenged in court.  What would end up happening is the whole statehood would get reversed by the Supreme Court because this plan doesn't align with the spirit of the 12th or 23rd amendment. 

[SaysWho?]

10 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

Your plan seems sketchy, and would be challenged in court.  What would end up happening is the whole statehood would get reversed by the Supreme Court because this plan doesn't align with the spirit of the 12th or 23rd amendment. 

 

If they're taxed but have no voting representative, that would go against the spirit of the Constitution top to bottom.

[TwinIon]

That's kinda funny, since the GOP party platform says:

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We support the right of the United States citizens of Puerto Rico to be admitted to the Union as a fully sovereign state. We further recognize the historic significance of the 2012 local referendum in which a 54 percent majority voted to end Puerto Rico’s current status as a U.S. territory, and 61 percent chose statehood over options for sovereign nationhood. We support the federally sponsored political status referendum authorized and funded by an Act of Congress in 2014 to ascertain the aspirations of the people of Puerto Rico. Once the 2012 local vote for statehood is ratified, Congress should approve an enabling act with terms for Puerto Rico’s future admission as the 51st state of the Union. 

 

It doesn't support Statehood for DC.

[CitizenVectron]

I mean I'm sure their platform also supports equality.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

1 hour ago, mclumber1 said:

 

Your plan seems sketchy, and would be challenged in court.  What would end up happening is the whole statehood would get reversed by the Supreme Court because this plan doesn't align with the spirit of the 12th or 23rd amendment. 

How so? Is it impossible to make a state out of the east side of the anacostia? The federal district can be split, it's a matter of how.

 

Congress has the power to set the size and laws of the federal district. Congress has the power to admit states to the union (with consent of the state to be/from). Maryland would have to accept the return of any portion of the district back to its state. If Maryland won't do that, what other choice is there?

 

Honestly if they wanted to tip the scales, and keep somewhat with history, separate the district into historical Washington city (has the federal buildings, and has permenent residents) then immediately and concurrently, and with the consent of Maryland, retrocede the remainder of the district to Maryland, then make a state of the returned portion of Maryland from the now rejoined Maryland. This not only satisfies the nonsense of the 23rd and 12th amendments you bring up, but is perfectly legal. So this not only gives the vast majority of DC statehood(including two senators and a rep), but allows it to keep it's three electoral votes for presidential elections per the 23rd. You know what, this sounds pretty good to me.

[MarSolo]

Does McConnell have children? 

 

I can't imagine him fathering any kids because he seems like a guy who doesn't want to do ANYTHING.

[Jason]

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Statehood hearings today

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Real brain genius types here

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

The only lesson that the right took from the French revolution is that the Jacobins took off heads and that's it.

[osxmatt]

Looks like Tom Cotton is the front-runner for Trumpism in 2024.

[SaysWho?]

Cotton is part of a state that should be combined with another state. He's not one to talk. Same with the Dakotas.

[Jason]

11 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

Cotton is part of a state that should be combined with another state. He's not one to talk. Same with the Dakotas.

 

[Ricofoley]

Wait, what are we combining Arkansas with? Oklahoma?

[Jason]

4 minutes ago, Ricofoley said:

Wait, what are we combining Arkansas with? Oklahoma?

 

[GeneticBlueprint]

41 minutes ago, Ricofoley said:

Wait, what are we combining Arkansas with? Oklahoma?

That's the only choice that makes sense.

[Keyser_Soze]

Arkansas combined with Louisiana would be cool. Like a big giant boot!

[SaysWho?]

3 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said:

Arkansas combined with Louisiana would be cool. Like a big giant boot!

 

Exactly what I was thinking! I really was the judge of your idea.

[Signifyin(g)Monkey]

I, as a conservative, believe that local government ought to be favored over feder—wait, Puerto Rico?  SOCIALISM, I tell ya, damned SOCIALISM!

[TyphoidHater]

Grant statehood to ALL American territories and combine them into east and west Oceana.

 

Give DC statehood whilst combining Dakota's.

 

Have N/S Carolina and Virginia/W Virginia each nominate a tag team to fight to prevent merger OR if Hawaii refuses to join west Oceana merge both.

 

Sell ppv streaming rights for tag match if Hawaii joins West oceana.

[69los]

6 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said:

Arkansas combined with Louisiana would be cool. Like a big giant boot!

 

The Hooker Boot state

[Keyser_Soze]

They could call it Arkanisiana.