CitizenVectron Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Asshat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 To Republicans, socialism is just anything they don't like. Stub your toe? Socialism. Burn your toast? Socialism. Clog your toilet? Socialism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 "God, they want four new Democratic Senators. Not fair and not right. BTW, I love that there are two Dakotas for no reason." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 The real reason is that they don't want to add more stars to the flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bacon said: The real reason is that they don't want to had more stars to the flag. How do you had more stars to the flag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Remarkableriots said: How do you had more stars to the flag? By being an idiot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bacon said: By being an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I have no problem granting statehood to Puerto Rico, but you can gtfo of here with this DC statehood nonsense. I oppose it on several grounds, but mostly because it would wreck the 23rd Amendment, and none of the proposals for DC statehood try and fix this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I have no problem granting statehood to Puerto Rico, but you can gtfo of here with this DC statehood nonsense. I oppose it on several grounds, but mostly because it would wreck the 23rd Amendment, and none of the proposals for DC statehood try and fix this problem. And if you really want to do a non-statehood fix, you can just make the populated area of D.C. part of Maryland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I have no problem granting statehood to Puerto Rico, but you can gtfo of here with this DC statehood nonsense. I oppose it on several grounds, but mostly because it would wreck the 23rd Amendment, and none of the proposals for DC statehood try and fix this problem. Shrink the district to the WH, Congress, scotus, and national Mall/monuments. It would have no permeant population, by law, and homeless could be given citizenship as citizens of the District State, (or they could be given homes in the District State as part of a housing first anti-homeless initiative) so no electors would be able to meet in the district to perform duties as directed by the twelfth amendment. No residents, no electors, no problem. Hell, per the DC code (which I just looked up while searching for the qualifications of presidential electors) you have to be a bona fide resident of the district for a period of 3 years immediately preceding the date of the presidential election. So no residents means no qualified electors, means no vote for president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, CitizenVectron said: And if you really want to do a non-statehood fix, you can just make the populated area of D.C. part of Maryland. Neither DC nor Maryland want this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Shrink the district to the WH, Congress, scotus, and national Mall/monuments. It would have no permeant population, by law, and homeless could be given citizenship as citizens of the District State, (or they could be given homes in the District State as part of a housing first anti-homeless initiative) so no electors would be able to meet in the district to perform duties as directed by the twelfth amendment. No residents, no electors, no problem. Hell, per the DC code (which I just looked up while searching for the qualifications of presidential electors) you have to be a bona fide resident of the district for a period of 3 years immediately preceding the date of the presidential election. So no residents means no qualified electors, means no vote for president. Your plan seems sketchy, and would be challenged in court. What would end up happening is the whole statehood would get reversed by the Supreme Court because this plan doesn't align with the spirit of the 12th or 23rd amendment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Your plan seems sketchy, and would be challenged in court. What would end up happening is the whole statehood would get reversed by the Supreme Court because this plan doesn't align with the spirit of the 12th or 23rd amendment. If they're taxed but have no voting representative, that would go against the spirit of the Constitution top to bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 That's kinda funny, since the GOP party platform says: Quote We support the right of the United States citizens of Puerto Rico to be admitted to the Union as a fully sovereign state. We further recognize the historic significance of the 2012 local referendum in which a 54 percent majority voted to end Puerto Rico’s current status as a U.S. territory, and 61 percent chose statehood over options for sovereign nationhood. We support the federally sponsored political status referendum authorized and funded by an Act of Congress in 2014 to ascertain the aspirations of the people of Puerto Rico. Once the 2012 local vote for statehood is ratified, Congress should approve an enabling act with terms for Puerto Rico’s future admission as the 51st state of the Union. It doesn't support Statehood for DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 I mean I'm sure their platform also supports equality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, mclumber1 said: Your plan seems sketchy, and would be challenged in court. What would end up happening is the whole statehood would get reversed by the Supreme Court because this plan doesn't align with the spirit of the 12th or 23rd amendment. How so? Is it impossible to make a state out of the east side of the anacostia? The federal district can be split, it's a matter of how. Congress has the power to set the size and laws of the federal district. Congress has the power to admit states to the union (with consent of the state to be/from). Maryland would have to accept the return of any portion of the district back to its state. If Maryland won't do that, what other choice is there? Honestly if they wanted to tip the scales, and keep somewhat with history, separate the district into historical Washington city (has the federal buildings, and has permenent residents) then immediately and concurrently, and with the consent of Maryland, retrocede the remainder of the district to Maryland, then make a state of the returned portion of Maryland from the now rejoined Maryland. This not only satisfies the nonsense of the 23rd and 12th amendments you bring up, but is perfectly legal. So this not only gives the vast majority of DC statehood(including two senators and a rep), but allows it to keep it's three electoral votes for presidential elections per the 23rd. You know what, this sounds pretty good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Does McConnell have children? I can't imagine him fathering any kids because he seems like a guy who doesn't want to do ANYTHING. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Statehood hearings today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Real brain genius types here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 The only lesson that the right took from the French revolution is that the Jacobins took off heads and that's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Looks like Tom Cotton is the front-runner for Trumpism in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Cotton is part of a state that should be combined with another state. He's not one to talk. Same with the Dakotas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Cotton is part of a state that should be combined with another state. He's not one to talk. Same with the Dakotas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Wait, what are we combining Arkansas with? Oklahoma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: Wait, what are we combining Arkansas with? Oklahoma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 41 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: Wait, what are we combining Arkansas with? Oklahoma? That's the only choice that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Arkansas combined with Louisiana would be cool. Like a big giant boot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Arkansas combined with Louisiana would be cool. Like a big giant boot! Exactly what I was thinking! I really was the judge of your idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I, as a conservative, believe that local government ought to be favored over feder—wait, Puerto Rico? SOCIALISM, I tell ya, damned SOCIALISM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoidHater Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Grant statehood to ALL American territories and combine them into east and west Oceana. Give DC statehood whilst combining Dakota's. Have N/S Carolina and Virginia/W Virginia each nominate a tag team to fight to prevent merger OR if Hawaii refuses to join west Oceana merge both. Sell ppv streaming rights for tag match if Hawaii joins West oceana. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Arkansas combined with Louisiana would be cool. Like a big giant boot! The Hooker Boot state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 They could call it Arkanisiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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