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3 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said:

Do you know what an incel is? Worry less about the lack of sex and more about the horrible misogyny and propensity for violence from that community.

 

Im taking the term literally as someone who is not having sex not by choice. Or does an incel have to someone who blames women for his problems?

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7 minutes ago, Dodger said:

 

Im taking the term literally as someone who is not having sex not by choice. Or does an incel have to someone who blames women for his problems?

 

Incel = INvoluntarily CELebate.

 

As in, I'm not having sex because women won't have sex with me.

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9 minutes ago, Dodger said:

Im taking the term literally as someone who is not having sex not by choice. Or does an incel have to someone who blames women for his problems?

People are going to give you shit for this because, at this point, they are basically synonymous, but I agree with you. An incel doesn't have to be a misogynist. But, there is a reason we just call a bundle of sticks a bundle of sticks. 

 

Incel is one of those words I wish people would stop using, like cuck. SJW being banned would be good as well. 

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13 minutes ago, Dodger said:

 

 

Im not defending them, I just think half the people laughing at what losers these guys are aren’t Exactly having much sex themselves.

Dude this motherfucker is posing as a templar knight holding an anime pillow and machine gun...

 

I'm pretty sure we're good to go on the justified mockery front.

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12 minutes ago, Dodger said:

 

Im taking the term literally as someone who is not having sex not by choice. Or does an incel have to someone who blames women for his problems?

 

3 minutes ago, Bacon said:

People are going to give you shit for this because, at this point, they are basically synonymous, but I agree with you. An incel doesn't have to be a misogynist. But, there is a reason we just call a bundle of sticks and bundle of sticks. 

 

Incel is one of those words I wish people would stop using, like cuck. SJW being banned would be good as well. 

Christ almighty!

 

You realize it stands for "involuntary celibate"? As in "women won't give me sex I'm entitled to, so I hate them and all the guys that can get sex"

 

Both of you have completely reversed the literal definition of "incel"

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3 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

You realize it stands for "involuntary celibate"? As in "women won't give me sex I'm entitled to, so I hate them and all the guys that can get sex"

I just don't see it as you have to be a woman hater to an incel. 

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Just now, MarSolo said:

 

Incel = INvoluntarily CELebate.

 

As in, I'm not having sex because women won't have sex with me.

 

 

Yes exactly, which means anyone of any political orientation or other views. Though I see many are trying to tie it those who are “alt right”. You can be an incel liberal.

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1 minute ago, Dodger said:

 

 

Yes exactly, which means anyone of any political orientation or other views. Though I see many are trying to tie it those who are “alt right”. You can be an incel liberal.

 

Incel liberals aren't shooting up people though.

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2 minutes ago, Dodger said:

 

 

Yes exactly, which means anyone of any political orientation or other views. Though I see many are trying to tie it those who are “alt right”. You can be an incel liberal.

You just defined incel as someone is isn't having sex by choice. The literal opposite of an incel. You really shouldn't be arguing this when you don't understand the definition. 

 

2 minutes ago, Bacon said:

I just don't see it as you have to be a woman hater to an incel. 

That's kinda what the whole group is about. :facepalm:

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5 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

Dude this motherfucker is posing as a templar knight holding an anime pillow and machine gun...

 

I'm pretty sure we're good to go on the justified mockery front.

 

 

Shit I just thought that was a random internet pic.

4 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

 

Christ almighty!

 

You realize it stands for "involuntary celibate"? As in "women won't give me sex I'm entitled to, so I hate them and all the guys that can get sex"

 

Both of you have completely reversed the literal definition of "incel"

 

You’re stretching the definition. If you aren’t having sex and it’s not by choice, you’re an incel. Choosing to feel entitled to sex and blaming women for not sleeping with you is a separate issue.

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3 minutes ago, Bacon said:

I just don't see it as you have to be a woman hater to an incel. 

 

You don't have to. Terms don't have to be all encompassing. This one describes a whole package of traits because the term is self adopted by people in that community, not because of a strict reading of the term.

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2 minutes ago, Dodger said:

ou’re stretching the definition. If you aren’t having sex and it’s not by choice, you’re an incel. Choosing to feel entitled to sex and blaming women for not sleeping with you is a separate issue.

Ah, I did misread your initial statement. Forgive me on that one. I didn't catch the second "not." 

 

But, yes, hating women is a big part of the incel community. I've never seen a self-proclaimed incel who wasn't an angry misogynist. That's kinda their whole point. 

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Just now, Kal-El814 said:

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Look funny guy, if you make fun of incels and you haven’t had sex since 2017 or whatever and it hasn’t been from a lack of willingness you too are an incel. Even if you aren’t on the internet hating women.

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4 minutes ago, Dodger said:

 

 

Shit I just thought that was a random internet pic.

 

You’re stretching the definition. If you aren’t having sex and it’s not by choice, you’re an incel. Choosing to feel entitled to sex and blaming women for not sleeping with you is a separate issue.

 

It’s not a definition. It’s a group. You’re clumping people into a group that aren’t part of that group. Just because you want to have sex but aren’t doesn’t make you part of the “incel movement”. These people are self-identified. 

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2 minutes ago, Dodger said:

 

Look funny guy, if you make fun of incels and you haven’t had sex since 2017 or whatever and it hasn’t been from a lack of willingness you too are an incel. Even if you aren’t on the internet hating women.

 

I haven't had sex since October so I'm now an incel. WONDERFUL LOGIC.

 

Just read this Wikipedia entry on it, please: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

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1 minute ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

I've never seen a self-proclaimed incel who wasn't an angry misogynist.

True, but assuming there are people who just can't get sex, want it, and aren't woman haters, why in the world would they claim to be an incel? They are still involuntarily celibate, just not hateful. That is why I have thought you could be an incel and not be hateful. But I know hardly anyone else thinks like that. 

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2 minutes ago, Bacon said:

True, but assuming there are people who just can't get sex, want it, and aren't woman haters, why in the world would they claim to be an incel? They are still involuntarily celibate, just not hateful. That is why I have thought you could be an incel and not be hateful. But I know hardly anyone else thinks like that. 

Because when the word was created, it was created by women haters for women haters. 

 

Good lord. :facepalm:

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1 minute ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Because when the word was created, it was created by women haters for women haters. 

 

Uh, no?

The first online community to use the term "incel" was started in 1993 when a Canadian university student known only by her first name, Alana, created a website in order to discuss her sexual inactivity with others.[12][19][20][21] The website, titled "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project",[12] was used by people of all genders to share their thoughts and experiences. In 1997, she started a mailing list on the topic that used the abbreviation INVCEL, later shortened to "incel", for "anybody of any gender who was lonely, had never had sex or who hadn't had a relationship in a long time".[22] During her college career and after, she realized she was queer and became more comfortable with her identity. She stopped participating in her online project around 2000[23] and gave the site to a stranger.[20] When speaking about the website in 2018, Alana said, "It definitely wasn't a bunch of guys blaming women for their problems. That's a pretty sad version of this phenomenon that's happening today. Things have changed in the last 20 years."[22] When she read about the 2014 Isla Vista killings, and the way parts of the incel subculture glorified the perpetrator, Elliot Rodger,[24] she wrote, "Like a scientist who invented something that ended up being a weapon of war, I can't uninvent this word, nor restrict it to the nicer people who need it."[21] She expressed regret at the change in usage from her original intent of creating an "inclusive community" for people of all genders who were sexually deprived due to social awkwardness, marginalization, or mental illness.[25] She has since started a new project, "Love Not Anger", which she describes as "a project to research how lonely people might find respectful love, instead of being stuck in anger".[20]

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11 minutes ago, Bacon said:

Did I misread your post? I failing to understand here. I don't understand why you are insulting me at this point. 

 

7 minutes ago, SilentWorld said:

 

 

That's not cool. 

I'm not insulting. Just your character, how you speak, your opinions. I've dealt with a lot of autistic people in my field and you fit a lot of the characteristics, based on what I see here. 

 

Jesus christ, people.

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2 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

 

I'm not insulting. Just your character, how you speak, your opinions. I've dealt with a lot of autistic people in my field and you fit a lot of the characteristics, based on what I see here. 

  

Jesus christ, people.

This post is even more not cool. 

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Just now, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

I'm not insulting.

You are tho. Even if I was, why would you go and say that for any other reasons other than to insult me and to discredit what I say as it is the ramblings of a literal autist? What if I was autistic and I didn't want people to know? Like, I still don't understand why you even posted that. I posted the origin to the term and then you call me autistic. 

 

4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said:

What do you guys have against autistic people to think it’s an insult? Not cool, guys.

 

2 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Exactly. I think some folks look for ways to be offended. 

 And fuck off. 

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